by Not a Bang but a Whimper » Sat May 21, 2016 3:04 pm
Meroivinge wrote:The very fact that you would have doubts about whether to join a forum full of goddless commie islamofascist homosexual welfare-recipients instead of a forum built to celebrate the Greatest Christian country in all of history deeply concerns me.
Kautharr wrote:Back when that was how the world was, there was no gay or transgender people.
by The New Sea Territory » Sat May 21, 2016 3:05 pm
Not a Bang but a Whimper wrote:As women, LGBT people, and people of color get slaughtered in the streets on a daily basis, I'm starting to think it's necessary the left take a no tolerance approach — by that, I mean by using violence.
Not a Bang but a Whimper wrote:Is there any inherent virtue in free speech? What argument is there, beyond a religious and occult idea of being "endowed by our creator" with the right to perpetuate injustice? Consider that bigots already defend rape, murder, and harassment — of course they will object to that assertion, because they themselves have a vested interest in protecting themselves as well as criminals (if any overlap exists) — so is the right to violent expression, by association, not cause for alarm?
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of darkness with mystically brutal fury to dim the serene and festive exultation of the dionysian spirit of our pagan ancestors."
-Renzo Novatore, Verso il Nulla Creatore
by SaintB » Sat May 21, 2016 3:06 pm
by Quokkastan » Sat May 21, 2016 3:08 pm
by Comcaliph » Sat May 21, 2016 3:08 pm
Quokkastan wrote:Because the best thing to do when your side is clearly in the right, and the other guys are clearly completely wrong, and everyone in the middle can see it...
Is to be wrong also.
Why didn't I see it sooner?
Comcaliph wrote:What good is a moral high ground if you remain oppressed and live a lower standard of life?
by Paddy O Fernature » Sat May 21, 2016 3:10 pm
by Quokkastan » Sat May 21, 2016 3:10 pm
Comcaliph wrote:Quokkastan wrote:Because the best thing to do when your side is clearly in the right, and the other guys are clearly completely wrong, and everyone in the middle can see it...
Is to be wrong also.
Why didn't I see it sooner?Comcaliph wrote:What good is a moral high ground if you remain oppressed and live a lower standard of life?
by Traditionalism » Sat May 21, 2016 3:12 pm
Not a Bang but a Whimper wrote:As women, LGBT people, and people of color get slaughtered in the streets on a daily basis, I'm starting to think it's necessary the left take a no tolerance approach — by that, I mean by using violence.
Is there any inherent virtue in free speech? What argument is , therebeyond a religious and occult idea of being "endowed by our creator" with the right to perpetuate injustice? Consider that bigots already defend rape, murder, and harassment — of course they will object to that assertion, because they themselves have a vested interest in protecting themselves as well as criminals (if any overlap exists) — so is the right to violent expression, by association, not cause for alarm?
Or perhaps it is that they are calling for more than mere expression. While, if this expression had no indirect effects, it might be acceptable, it instead causes irreparable harm that we would combat with violence if it occurred directly. When a legislator passes an order, that is not mere expression.
Is it not right, then, to react to the causes and perpetrators of violence with violence? Is the historic bloc is to be replaced, is it not necessary to act on it as it has acted on us?
What do you dare to think, NSG?
by Comcaliph » Sat May 21, 2016 3:13 pm
Traditionalism wrote:Not a Bang but a Whimper wrote:As women, LGBT people, and people of color get slaughtered in the streets on a daily basis, I'm starting to think it's necessary the left take a no tolerance approach — by that, I mean by using violence.
Is there any inherent virtue in free speech? What argument is , therebeyond a religious and occult idea of being "endowed by our creator" with the right to perpetuate injustice? Consider that bigots already defend rape, murder, and harassment — of course they will object to that assertion, because they themselves have a vested interest in protecting themselves as well as criminals (if any overlap exists) — so is the right to violent expression, by association, not cause for alarm?
Or perhaps it is that they are calling for more than mere expression. While, if this expression had no indirect effects, it might be acceptable, it instead causes irreparable harm that we would combat with violence if it occurred directly. When a legislator passes an order, that is not mere expression.
Is it not right, then, to react to the causes and perpetrators of violence with violence? Is the historic bloc is to be replaced, is it not necessary to act on it as it has acted on us?
What do you dare to think, NSG?
I'm a racist, a bigot, a Fascist and people like me are desperately relying on a violent reaction from liberals and their Black Lives Matter friends to kick things off. Guess what, when it goes down, the mainstream lemmings are going to side with us. Can't wait for the day of the rope
by The New Sea Territory » Sat May 21, 2016 3:13 pm
SaintB wrote:You can't hold the moral high ground if you resort to the base tactics of the opposition.
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"Christianity had brutally planted the poisoned blade in the healthy, quivering flesh of all humanity; it had goaded a cold wave
of darkness with mystically brutal fury to dim the serene and festive exultation of the dionysian spirit of our pagan ancestors."
-Renzo Novatore, Verso il Nulla Creatore
by District XIV » Sat May 21, 2016 3:13 pm
Not a Bang but a Whimper wrote:As women, LGBT people, and people of color get slaughtered in the streets on a daily basis
by Traditionalism » Sat May 21, 2016 3:16 pm
Comcaliph wrote:Traditionalism wrote:I'm a racist, a bigot, a Fascist and people like me are desperately relying on a violent reaction from liberals and their Black Lives Matter friends to kick things off. Guess what, when it goes down, the mainstream lemmings are going to side with us. Can't wait for the day of the rope
Black Lives Matter and Liberals are two different things, at least proper liberals. I hope to think in an intellectual society you are one of the first eliminated
by Geilinor » Sat May 21, 2016 3:17 pm
by The New Sea Territory » Sat May 21, 2016 3:18 pm
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Solntsa Roshcha --- Postmodern Poyltheist
"Christianity had brutally planted the poisoned blade in the healthy, quivering flesh of all humanity; it had goaded a cold wave
of darkness with mystically brutal fury to dim the serene and festive exultation of the dionysian spirit of our pagan ancestors."
-Renzo Novatore, Verso il Nulla Creatore
by Comcaliph » Sat May 21, 2016 3:18 pm
Traditionalism wrote:Comcaliph wrote:Black Lives Matter and Liberals are two different things, at least proper liberals. I hope to think in an intellectual society you are one of the first eliminated
You do realize that the far-right extremists have militias, neo nazi skinhead groups, the KKK, biker gangs, veterans, law enforcement, etc.
What do your 'intellectuals' have? Wikipedia sources and hot coffee from starbucks? Lmao
by The New Sea Territory » Sat May 21, 2016 3:18 pm
Geilinor wrote:Sadly, it seems to be serious. Violence is never a proper response to speech.
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Solntsa Roshcha --- Postmodern Poyltheist
"Christianity had brutally planted the poisoned blade in the healthy, quivering flesh of all humanity; it had goaded a cold wave
of darkness with mystically brutal fury to dim the serene and festive exultation of the dionysian spirit of our pagan ancestors."
-Renzo Novatore, Verso il Nulla Creatore
by Quokkastan » Sat May 21, 2016 3:20 pm
by Salus Maior » Sat May 21, 2016 3:20 pm
by Paddy O Fernature » Sat May 21, 2016 3:21 pm
The New Sea Territory wrote:District XIV wrote:lmfao gonna need a source on this
the US may not be a haven of tolerance for those groups but they aren't "slaughtered in the streets on a daily basis"
Women was probably a stretch.
This is only Wikipedia's 2010-Present category. It's probably incomplete. Not to mention an attempted arson of Canada's only SRS center.
As for people of color, look in the news on any day and there will be a story about police brutality.
by District XIV » Sat May 21, 2016 3:21 pm
The New Sea Territory wrote:District XIV wrote:lmfao gonna need a source on this
the US may not be a haven of tolerance for those groups but they aren't "slaughtered in the streets on a daily basis"
Women was probably a stretch.
This is only Wikipedia's 2010-Present category. It's probably incomplete. Not to mention an attempted arson of Canada's only SRS center.
As for people of color, look in the news on any day and there will be a story about police brutality.
by Comcaliph » Sat May 21, 2016 3:22 pm
Quokkastan wrote:Comcaliph wrote:If the other guys are elk mated and change is forced, improvements of conditions will eventually arrive
How?
How is using violence going to end subtle discrimination in the workforce?
How is killing a klan member going to change the fact that cops are slightly more likely to resort to violence if the perp is Black?
How will mobs of LGBT people setting fires and overturning cars change public opinion about them in a positive way?
This strategy cannot help you. It's never helped anyone.
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