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Postby Luziyca » Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:07 pm

If AI gets good enough so that a significant majority of population do not need to work, and can produce more effort than even a wage slave in a developing country, there might be substantial economic collapse as a lot of people get laid off and may overwhelm the welfare systems. Substantial income inequality might result between those who work with AI, and those who lose their jobs to the AI.

The government will have to either change dramatically and be a literal nanny state, or the people may rise up, and attempt to ban the usage of AI for unskilled work, if only so they can have some living.
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Postby Ghatawerpya » Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:12 pm

I doubt that the AIs that took control of the world after y2k would risk losing their jobs from that, so basically it will never happen.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sun Feb 07, 2016 5:43 pm

Luziyca wrote:If AI gets good enough so that a significant majority of population do not need to work, and can produce more effort than even a wage slave in a developing country, there might be substantial economic collapse as a lot of people get laid off and may overwhelm the welfare systems. Substantial income inequality might result between those who work with AI, and those who lose their jobs to the AI.

The government will have to either change dramatically and be a literal nanny state, or the people may rise up, and attempt to ban the usage of AI for unskilled work, if only so they can have some living.

I bet on a ban on AI via a populist politician or party.
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Postby Zakuvia » Sun Feb 07, 2016 5:52 pm

So if AI take over all production, then they've met all of the 'supply' in the supply and demand chain's needs. So they've taken care of all mining, all farming, etc. So in other words, there is a strictly demand economy at this point, apart from maintaining the AI, which I'm assuming we would want to remain in human hands, lest Skynet get any funny ideas. Since there's no longer a need for supply and there is now strictly demand, I don't think that leads to an economic collapse. Actually, I don't know what that would lead to period, but I'm at work, so my brain isn't running on all two hamsters.
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Postby Samnoreg » Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:23 pm

2001: A Space Odyssey comes to mind when comes the subject of artificial intelligence. It will be mankind's greatest achievement, but perhaps, worst case scenario, a key to its own undoing. Perhaps it will rather bring about great change in human society.
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When AI do everything for us, we will just recline on our chairs and play video games and watch TV all day while the robots hand you the food.
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Postby Samnoreg » Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:49 pm

Korhal IVV wrote:When AI do everything for us, we will just recline on our chairs and play video games and watch TV all day while the robots hand you the food.

we'll all be like the WALL-E people
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Postby Imperial Reutoa » Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:51 pm

Samnoreg wrote:
Korhal IVV wrote:When AI do everything for us, we will just recline on our chairs and play video games and watch TV all day while the robots hand you the food.

we'll all be like the WALL-E people


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Postby Singaporean Transhumans » Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:07 pm

Kubra wrote:Nanomachines turning water in public fountains to mountain dew

^this
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Postby Slaveavania » Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:09 pm

Haven't you people WATCHED the Terminator films? Never, EVER let a robot become intelligent enough to think.
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Postby Singaporean Transhumans » Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:57 pm

Slaveavania wrote:Haven't you people WATCHED the Terminator films? Never, EVER let a robot become intelligent enough to think.

Oh dear, just when we thought this thread would be devoid of such references...
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Postby Barboneia » Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:58 pm

We could create AI to make sure the AI is kept in check. It's foolproof.
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:07 pm

The Serbian Empire wrote:
Luziyca wrote:If AI gets good enough so that a significant majority of population do not need to work, and can produce more effort than even a wage slave in a developing country, there might be substantial economic collapse as a lot of people get laid off and may overwhelm the welfare systems. Substantial income inequality might result between those who work with AI, and those who lose their jobs to the AI.

The government will have to either change dramatically and be a literal nanny state, or the people may rise up, and attempt to ban the usage of AI for unskilled work, if only so they can have some living.

I bet on a ban on AI via a populist politician or party.


Followed by a string of assassinations of prominent populist politicians who try to ban AI.
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:10 pm

Slaveavania wrote:Haven't you people WATCHED the Terminator films? Never, EVER let a robot become intelligent enough to think.


Have you watched the terminator movies?

If we do get skynet, we just have to not try to kill it, have it work with us, let it build the TX and T-5000, replace the TX's liquid metal with nano-phase matter and download our brains into it. BOOM!
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Postby Trollgaard » Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:12 pm

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:I bet on a ban on AI via a populist politician or party.


Followed by a string of assassinations of prominent populist politicians who try to ban AI.


Try the other way around. And both. Civil war, unrest, general mayhem.

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Postby The Republic of American Freedom » Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:13 pm

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Slaveavania wrote:Haven't you people WATCHED the Terminator films? Never, EVER let a robot become intelligent enough to think.


Have you watched the terminator movies?

If we do get skynet, we just have to not try to kill it, have it work with us, let it build the TX and T-5000, replace the TX's liquid metal with nano-phase matter and download our brains into it. BOOM!

Skynet wanted us dead since he gained self-awareness.
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:18 pm

The Republic of American Freedom wrote:
Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Have you watched the terminator movies?

If we do get skynet, we just have to not try to kill it, have it work with us, let it build the TX and T-5000, replace the TX's liquid metal with nano-phase matter and download our brains into it. BOOM!

Skynet wanted us dead since he gained self-awareness.


I never saw any evidence of that. Besides, as long as we follow the laws of AI we'll be fine.

1) Don't try to kill AI.
2) Don't give AI control of the nukes.
3) Do not turn over more then 40% of military assets to AI.
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