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Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) drops out of race for House Speaker

Postby The United Dark Republic » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:11 am

WASHINGTON - Republican Kevin McCarthy has dropped out of the race to be the next speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, members of the chamber said on Thursday, and the election to choose the next top leader in the chamber has been postponed.

In a meeting with fellow Republicans, McCarthy, the current House majority leader, said that "I am not the one at this time," according to Republican Representative Peter King.

House Republican Conference spokesman Nate Hodson said the election for Republican speaker nominee was postponed until a later date.

Republican Representative Paul Ryan said on Thursday he will not be a candidate for U.S. House speaker after McCarthy dropped out of the race for the job.

"Kevin McCarthy is best person to lead the House and so I'm disappointed in this decision," Ryan said in a statement.

"While I am grateful for the encouragement I've received, I will not be a candidate," Ryan said. "I continue to believe I can best serve the country and this conference as Chairman of the Ways and Means Committee."

McCarthy will stay on in his current job after dropping out of the race to become House speaker, fellow Republican Representative Darrell Issa said on Thursday.

"Kevin McCarthy remains our leader," Issa told reporters.

Issa said the current speaker, John Boehner, had called off a vote among Republicans on a nominee for a successor because of a lack of candidates who could secure a majority in the full House.

"I don't believe there was any candidate today who could get to 218 among those who had declared, and I believe that's the reason Speaker Boehner dismissed (the meeting) with the intention to have the field reconsidered," Issa said.


Personally, this news comes as shocking for me, yet understandable after the gaffe he made on the Benghazi committee. Thoughts NSG?
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Postby Eol Sha » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:14 am

I was watching MSNBC live when they announced the drop on air. Quite surprising. Now, I wonder how the GOP will tear itself apart looking for a new speaker.
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Postby Lerodan Chinamerica » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:16 am

Kevin McCarthy was not completely awful for an establishment Republican, and went against that wing of the party a few times, like when he tried to dismantle the Export-Import Bank. I don't know who's next in line in the Boehner oligarchy but hopefully somebody sensible will get a shot for Speaker like Justin Amash or Thomas Massie.

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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:17 am

whoa

has he been playing cards???
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Postby Cetacea » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:27 am

is he the guy who admitted that the whole House of Representatives Benghazi Committee was being manipulated to get Clinton?

and you guys are shocked he's not getting the Speakers role? damn American politics really is more fucked up than I thought it was. They guy admits that the death of American diplomats, millions of dollars, eight congressional investigations and a whole slew of spite has just been a political tool and noones baying for blood and demanding he be banned from the House let alone not get the job.

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Postby Bythyrona » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:28 am

Here's to hoping Chaffetz gets the job in his place.
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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:31 am

Cetacea wrote:is he the guy who admitted that the whole House of Representatives Benghazi Committee was being manipulated to get Clinton?

and you guys are shocked he's not getting the Speakers role? damn American politics really is more fucked up than I thought it was. They guy admits that the death of American diplomats, millions of dollars, eight congressional investigations and a whole slew of spite has just been a political tool and noones baying for blood and demanding he be banned from the House let alone not get the job.

of course that is a bad thing but there is NO ONE ELSE. who is it going to be now, scalise--the guy who touted himself as a david duke without the robes? maybe chaffetz who is flummoxed by chart technology?
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Cetacea wrote:is he the guy who admitted that the whole House of Representatives Benghazi Committee was being manipulated to get Clinton?

and you guys are shocked he's not getting the Speakers role? damn American politics really is more fucked up than I thought it was. They guy admits that the death of American diplomats, millions of dollars, eight congressional investigations and a whole slew of spite has just been a political tool and noones baying for blood and demanding he be banned from the House let alone not get the job.

Well, according to MSNBC's reporting, Republicans, just a few hours ago, had leaked that McCarthy had had a hard 200+ Republicans supporting him. Granted, that's not the 218 need for election, but it isn't like the admission, which he quickly retracted, really pissed off any Republican congressmen other than Tea Partiers.

They guy admits that the death of American diplomats, millions of dollars, eight congressional investigations and a whole slew of spite has just been a political tool and noones baying for blood and demanding he be banned from the House let alone not get the job.

Why would he be? I don't think the actions of committee chairmen are required to be legally signed off on by the Majority Leader of the House. Maybe the Speaker, but Boehner has had that job since 2011, not McCarthy. Plus, it's not like politically-motivated investigations by Congress are illegal. Just look at the shit Republicans pulled on Bill Clinton. Is it scummy? Totally. Illegal, though? I doubt it.
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Ashmoria wrote:
Cetacea wrote:is he the guy who admitted that the whole House of Representatives Benghazi Committee was being manipulated to get Clinton?

and you guys are shocked he's not getting the Speakers role? damn American politics really is more fucked up than I thought it was. They guy admits that the death of American diplomats, millions of dollars, eight congressional investigations and a whole slew of spite has just been a political tool and noones baying for blood and demanding he be banned from the House let alone not get the job.

of course that is a bad thing but there is NO ONE ELSE. who is it going to be now, scalise--the guy who touted himself as a david duke without the robes? maybe chaffetz who is flummoxed by chart technology?

There's still three weeks, probably more with a potential postponement, before the vote. Maybe others will jump in. Paul Ryan remains uninterested in the job, though.
You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

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Postby Geilinor » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:36 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Cetacea wrote:is he the guy who admitted that the whole House of Representatives Benghazi Committee was being manipulated to get Clinton?

and you guys are shocked he's not getting the Speakers role? damn American politics really is more fucked up than I thought it was. They guy admits that the death of American diplomats, millions of dollars, eight congressional investigations and a whole slew of spite has just been a political tool and noones baying for blood and demanding he be banned from the House let alone not get the job.

of course that is a bad thing but there is NO ONE ELSE. who is it going to be now, scalise--the guy who touted himself as a david duke without the robes? maybe chaffetz who is flummoxed by chart technology?

I looked up the chart issue, that is a middle school mistake.
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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:40 am

Geilinor wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:of course that is a bad thing but there is NO ONE ELSE. who is it going to be now, scalise--the guy who touted himself as a david duke without the robes? maybe chaffetz who is flummoxed by chart technology?

I looked up the chart issue, that is a middle school mistake.


it was a strange exchange really. he said that he had made the chart himself based on PPs corporate reports but it said right on it that it was created by an anti-abortion group. he is a liar as well as a person who doesn't understand how to make charts.

I think they are going to have to go with nancy Pelosi.
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Ashmoria wrote:
Geilinor wrote:I looked up the chart issue, that is a middle school mistake.


it was a strange exchange really. he said that he had made the chart himself based on PPs corporate reports but it said right on it that it was created by an anti-abortion group. he is a liar as well as a person who doesn't understand how to make charts.

I think they are going to have to go with nancy Pelosi.

I doubt Pelosi can get the required 218 votes.
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Postby Lerodan Chinamerica » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:46 am

Cetacea wrote:is he the guy who admitted that the whole House of Representatives Benghazi Committee was being manipulated to get Clinton?

and you guys are shocked he's not getting the Speakers role? damn American politics really is more fucked up than I thought it was. They guy admits that the death of American diplomats, millions of dollars, eight congressional investigations and a whole slew of spite has just been a political tool and noones baying for blood and demanding he be banned from the House let alone not get the job.

Source?

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Postby Bythyrona » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:47 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Geilinor wrote:I looked up the chart issue, that is a middle school mistake.


it was a strange exchange really. he said that he had made the chart himself based on PPs corporate reports but it said right on it that it was created by an anti-abortion group. he is a liar as well as a person who doesn't understand how to make charts.

I think they are going to have to go with nancy Pelosi.

And he's still the best out of the remaining field for Speaker. That's the sad part.
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Eol Sha wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:
it was a strange exchange really. he said that he had made the chart himself based on PPs corporate reports but it said right on it that it was created by an anti-abortion group. he is a liar as well as a person who doesn't understand how to make charts.

I think they are going to have to go with nancy Pelosi.

I doubt Pelosi can get the required 218 votes.

who can? it was going to take several ballots to get McCarthy elected. now they can go through 20 or 30 then she can peel off the required number of republicans and get herself elected. its the only course that doesn't end us up in utter disaster.

or maybe they wont let john Boehner retire. -
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Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:
Cetacea wrote:is he the guy who admitted that the whole House of Representatives Benghazi Committee was being manipulated to get Clinton?

and you guys are shocked he's not getting the Speakers role? damn American politics really is more fucked up than I thought it was. They guy admits that the death of American diplomats, millions of dollars, eight congressional investigations and a whole slew of spite has just been a political tool and noones baying for blood and demanding he be banned from the House let alone not get the job.

Source?

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Postby Pope Joan » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:53 am

Looks like the tea party has taken over, through intimidation, and a game of chicken.

Who would want to rule over that snake pit?

Give them a few years to self destruct, and hope they don't take the rest of us with them.

" Next in line could be Paul Ryan (WI), Jeb Hensarling (TX), Tom Price (GA) and Steve Scalise (LA) as other possibilities for either Speaker or House Majority Leader. These men are even less interested than Speaker Boehner was in running a functioning Congress."

Budget impasse anyone? Are we nostalgic for the good old days of debt limit debates?

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Postby Lerodan Chinamerica » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:53 am

Bythyrona wrote:Here's to hoping Chaffetz gets the job in his place.

No thank you. Chafettz is pro-Drug War, anti-marriage equality establishmentarian who wanted to launch a preemptive strike against Iran to prevent them from accessing nuclear weapons. Like any good Republican, he favours cutting spending, unless it's on the military, and is opposed to corporatism and special interest lobbying, unless it's for Sheldon Adelson and the casino lobby, and is opposed to excessive taxation, unless it's on internet sales purchases. This guy is more of the same, and that is not what we need.

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Postby Eol Sha » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:55 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:I doubt Pelosi can get the required 218 votes.

who can? it was going to take several ballots to get McCarthy elected. now they can go through 20 or 30 then she can peel off the required number of republicans and get herself elected. its the only course that doesn't end us up in utter disaster.

or maybe they wont let john Boehner retire. -

I don't know who can. Since there's at least three weeks left until the vote another person, someone not as associated with the Tea Party as the two remaining runners may jump in. The way I see it, I don't think any Republicans are going to be voting for Nancy Pelosi. Not with them all coming up for re-election next year.

Boehner's already stayed longer than he originally wanted to. I doubt anyone can stop him from doing a jig down the steps of the Capitol and away from Washington.
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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:58 am

Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:
Bythyrona wrote:Here's to hoping Chaffetz gets the job in his place.

No thank you. Chafettz is pro-Drug War, anti-marriage equality establishmentarian who wanted to launch a preemptive strike against Iran to prevent them from accessing nuclear weapons. Like any good Republican, he favours cutting spending, unless it's on the military, and is opposed to corporatism and special interest lobbying, unless it's for Sheldon Adelson and the casino lobby, and is opposed to excessive taxation, unless it's on internet sales purchases. This guy is more of the same, and that is not what we need.


the only things that really matters are whether or not he will block raising the debt ceiling and/or shut down the government over defunding planned parenthood.

I think he would do both.
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Postby Bythyrona » Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:59 am

Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:
Bythyrona wrote:Here's to hoping Chaffetz gets the job in his place.

No thank you. Chafettz is pro-Drug War, anti-marriage equality establishmentarian who wanted to launch a preemptive strike against Iran to prevent them from accessing nuclear weapons. Like any good Republican, he favours cutting spending, unless it's on the military, and is opposed to corporatism and special interest lobbying, unless it's for Sheldon Adelson and the casino lobby, and is opposed to excessive taxation, unless it's on internet sales purchases. This guy is more of the same, and that is not what we need.

He crosses partisan lines too many times to simply be more of the same.
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Postby Eol Sha » Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:01 am

Ashmoria wrote:
Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:No thank you. Chafettz is pro-Drug War, anti-marriage equality establishmentarian who wanted to launch a preemptive strike against Iran to prevent them from accessing nuclear weapons. Like any good Republican, he favours cutting spending, unless it's on the military, and is opposed to corporatism and special interest lobbying, unless it's for Sheldon Adelson and the casino lobby, and is opposed to excessive taxation, unless it's on internet sales purchases. This guy is more of the same, and that is not what we need.


the only things that really matters are whether or not he will block raising the debt ceiling and/or shut down the government over defunding planned parenthood.

I think he would do both.

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Postby Pope Joan » Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:05 am

Chaffetz was raised Jewish. He will have dual loyalty just as much as Joe Lieberman.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:09 am

Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha.

I'll bring the popcorn. The fallout from this is going to be hilarious.


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