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passing a resoloution against ethnoreligious bigotry

Postby Ivri » Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:55 pm

*A well dressed man walks up to a podium, after tapping the mic to check it he begins to speak*

"Shalom,

I am here to speak to you today about The Ivrian people, our history and a bigotry which existed long before my nation came into existence: Anti-Ivrianism. We Ivrians are a ethno-religious group, a Judaic tribe, originally nomads we resided in near every nation on earth. That was until *his voice begins to shake before clears his throat*, the Ivrian genocide took place.

Ivrians were stereotyped as interlopers in their respective nations and in world affairs, mocked for their colour and customs, barred from professions and certain neighbourhoods in those nations. This then led to bigots attacking Ivrian neighbourhoods in their countries armed with whatever domestic or other tools they had.

One in five of us, never got to see the free land of Ivri, *his voice trembles* I only wish...that my uncle had *he composes himself again*. However just because Ivrians can live free in Ivri, it does not mean they are free elsewhere in the world, that is why I am asking if it is possible to secure a resolution against this murderous bigotry."

Thank you for listening *he then waits for any questions*

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Has ethnoreligious bigotry been addressed?

Postby Ivri » Tue Sep 01, 2015 12:38 pm

OOC: by the way it's worth asking, are their any W.A resolutions protecting ethno-religious groups in particular, racial and religious prejudice are a given, but what about ethno religious groups?

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Postby The Forsworn Knights » Tue Sep 01, 2015 12:42 pm

Ivri wrote:OOC: by the way it's worth asking, are their any W.A resolutions protecting ethno-religious groups in particular, racial and religious prejudice are a given, but what about ethno religious groups?

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Postby Ivri » Tue Sep 01, 2015 12:46 pm

Ok, but what about a resolution against ethno religious bigotry

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Postby Tinfect » Tue Sep 01, 2015 12:51 pm

Ivri wrote:Ok, but what about a resolution against ethno religious bigotry


Already exists. CoCR, pretty much guarantees that across the board.
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Postby Ivri » Tue Sep 01, 2015 1:07 pm

so ethno religious groups are explicitly mentioned?

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Postby Tinfect » Tue Sep 01, 2015 1:11 pm

Ivri wrote:so ethno religious groups are explicitly mentioned?


No, but allow me to post the relevant sections of CoCR.

a ) All inhabitants of member states are equal in status in law and under its actions, and have the right to equal treatment and protection by the nation they inhabit or in which they are currently present.

b ) All inhabitants of member states are entitled to rights secured to them in international law and the law of the nation they inhabit or in which they are currently present.

c ) All inhabitants of member states have the right not to be and indeed must not be discriminated against on grounds including sex, race, ethnicity, nationality, skin color, language, economic or cultural background, physical or mental disability or condition, religion or belief system, sexual orientation or sexual identity, or any other arbitrarily assigned and reductive categorisation which may be used for the purposes of discrimination, except for compelling practical purposes, such as hiring only female staff to work with battered women who have sought refuge from their abusers.
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Postby Ivri » Tue Sep 01, 2015 1:14 pm

I see what you mean, but with out of date terminology aren't we providing a loop hole to bigotry? How would say Copts fit in under this law?

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Postby Tinfect » Tue Sep 01, 2015 1:16 pm

Ivri wrote:I see what you mean, but with out of date terminology aren't we providing a loop hole to bigotry? How would say Copts fit in under this law?


What out-of-date terminology? Please elaborate. In any case, the following two clauses cover literally everyone.

a ) All inhabitants of member states are equal in status in law and under its actions, and have the right to equal treatment and protection by the nation they inhabit or in which they are currently present.

b ) All inhabitants of member states are entitled to rights secured to them in international law and the law of the nation they inhabit or in which they are currently present.
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Postby Ivri » Tue Sep 01, 2015 1:21 pm

Well the term ethnoreligious covers groups who's customs and traditions are defined by the tribe to which they belong, so the ethnicity and the faith are part of the package. If say an Ivrian was discriminated the perpetrator could say "it was criticism of the individual, and that their is no legal basis for which you can do anything, as ethnoreligous bigotry is not covered."

Yes Ethnicity is, Yes religion is, but a racial tribe with inherent religious traditions? No, thus leaving a loophole to be abused

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Postby Tinfect » Tue Sep 01, 2015 1:25 pm

Ivri wrote:Well the term ethnoreligious covers groups who's customs and traditions are defined by the tribe to which they belong, so the ethnicity and the faith are part of the package. If say an Ivrian was discriminated the perpetrator could say "it was criticism of the individual, and that their is no legal basis for which you can do anything, as ethnoreligous bigotry is not covered."

Yes Ethnicity is, Yes religion is, but a racial tribe with inherent religious traditions? No, thus leaving a loophole to be abused


No, you don't understand. Read the following excerpt of CoCR.

a ) All inhabitants of member states are equal in status in law and under its actions, and have the right to equal treatment and protection by the nation they inhabit or in which they are currently present.

b ) All inhabitants of member states are entitled to rights secured to them in international law and the law of the nation they inhabit or in which they are currently present.


That's all inhabitants of Member State, Gay, Black, Green, Scottish, Coptic, Aztec, Mayan, what-have-you, all are covered under that clause.
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Postby Ivri » Tue Sep 01, 2015 1:33 pm

But i'm saying ethnoreligous groups are a category in themselves, because of the unique nature of them, plus if it is necessary to describe categories in section C why cant this category. I can see you and I may differ on this issue, but I believe the unique nature of this category has to be included under protection of the law as others have.

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Postby Tinfect » Tue Sep 01, 2015 1:35 pm

Ivri wrote:But i'm saying ethnoreligous groups are a category in themselves, because of the unique nature of them, plus if it is necessary to describe categories in section C why cant this category. I can see you and I may differ on this issue, but I believe the unique nature of this category has to be included under protection of the law as others have.


The categorical description is entirely redundant and serves only to provide context for the above clauses. Clause A clearly states that all inhabitants of Member States are included.
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