Should the US have universal healthcare?

[Nuevo Sealandia]

Countries around the world increasingly have free healthcare for all citizens, of some kind. This poll is NOT concerned with what KIND the US would have. The question is, Do you support universal healthcare of some kind, at least partly funded by the government, to make sure that everyone has some kind of health coverage?

[Liberty and Linguistics]

You're new, so welcome to NSG, first of all.

Secondly, you really need to flesh out your OP. Be more explanatory. What do you think of universal healthcare? What are some alternatives to the system we have in place? What experiences do you have with our health system, etc. Add all that to your initial post or "OP", and then this thread won't be viewed as too short by the moderators.

I myself find universal healthcare to be almost as inefficient as the system we have in place. Ideally, we could draw ideas from Singapore and Switzerland, and have an efficient, half private, and very affordable healthcare system. We can start by eliminating cronyism and government lobbying in the insurance industries, deregulate these industries so that premiums and costs aren't incredibly expensive, allow less barriers to making new drugs as to prevent monopolies, and most importantly, establish a sort of medical savings account that we as taxpayers pay into.

[Alyakia]

You're new, so welcome to NSG, first of all.

Secondly, you really need to flesh out your OP. Be more explanatory. What do you think of universal healthcare? What are some alternatives to the system we have in place? What experiences do you have with our health system, etc. Add all that to your initial post or "OP", and then this thread won't be viewed as too short by the moderators.

I myself find universal healthcare to be almost as inefficient as the system we have in place. Ideally, we could draw ideas from Singapore and Switzerland, and have an efficient, half private, and very affordable healthcare system. We can start by eliminating cronyism and government lobbying in the insurance industries, deregulate these industries so that premiums and costs aren't incredibly expensive, allow less barriers to making new drugs as to prevent monopolies, and most importantly, establish a sort of medical savings account that we as taxpayers pay into.

Healthcare in Switzerland is universal
Singapore has a non-modified universal healthcare system where the government ensures affordability of healthcare within the public health system

[Liberty and Linguistics]

You're new, so welcome to NSG, first of all.

Secondly, you really need to flesh out your OP. Be more explanatory. What do you think of universal healthcare? What are some alternatives to the system we have in place? What experiences do you have with our health system, etc. Add all that to your initial post or "OP", and then this thread won't be viewed as too short by the moderators.

I myself find universal healthcare to be almost as inefficient as the system we have in place. Ideally, we could draw ideas from Singapore and Switzerland, and have an efficient, half private, and very affordable healthcare system. We can start by eliminating cronyism and government lobbying in the insurance industries, deregulate these industries so that premiums and costs aren't incredibly expensive, allow less barriers to making new drugs as to prevent monopolies, and most importantly, establish a sort of medical savings account that we as taxpayers pay into.

Healthcare in Switzerland is universal
Singapore has a non-modified universal healthcare system where the government ensures affordability of healthcare within the public health system

It is, correct. Doesn't mean it doesn't have some good ideas we can borrow.

[New Werpland]

It should be a collective responsibility to help out your sick countrymen.

Therefor we should adopt multi payer universal healthcare based on social insurance. It's cheaper than single payer, and could possibly fit on our budget in the future, if we raised taxes.

[Deuxtete]

Yeah, the good idea being universal healthcare.

[Diopolis]

Yes, but on a state level, not a national one.

[Zoscua]

Absolutely, we should.

[Napkiraly]

Yes, but on a state level, not a national one.

You mean similar to the Canadian model where provinces are responsible for handling it, budgeting, etc. but receive some payments from the federal government to assist and sets a minimum standard to meet?

[BK117B2]

The current level of universal healthcare in the USA is acceptable

[Zoscua]

Yes, but on a state level, not a national one.

You mean similar to the Canadian model where provinces are responsible for handling it, budgeting, etc. but receive some payments from the federal government to assist and sets a minimum standard to meet?

This seems like it would inevitably lead to any state run by Republicans having a healthcare system that was set up to be as minimalistic and inaccessible to the poor as legally possible.

[Deuxtete]

Yes, but on a state level, not a national one.

You mean similar to the Canadian model where provinces are responsible for handling it, budgeting, etc. but receive some payments from the federal government to assist and sets a minimum standard to meet?

how is that?
I've gone to Windsor with people to use friends Canadian healthcare, and I know there used to issues with Americans coming over and cheating the system, but is the care good? Seemed good when I was there.

[Deuxtete]

You mean similar to the Canadian model where provinces are responsible for handling it, budgeting, etc. but receive some payments from the federal government to assist and sets a minimum standard to meet?

This seems like it would inevitably lead to any state run by Republicans having a healthcare system that was set up to be as minimalistic and inaccessible to the poor as legally possible.

Creating competition between the states Let the free market speak!

[The Greater Union of Kinnota]

I believe the U.S. would do well to introduce a single-payer universal healthcare system. The ACA is okay, and is much better than what we had beforehand, but to take it a step further and join much of the rest of the industrialised world in universal healthcare-dom would be most ideal, in my humble opinion.

[Ashmoria]

obamacare is a good start but we really need to work it out so that everyone is covered.

[United States of Conner]

Yes, please.

This seems like it would inevitably lead to any state run by Republicans having a healthcare system that was set up to be as minimalistic and inaccessible to the poor as legally possible.

Creating competition between the states Let the free market speak!

Why would we want competition between states in a healthcare market?

[Neo Rome Republic]

I believe the U.S. would do well to introduce a single-payer universal healthcare system. The ACA is okay, and is much better than what we had beforehand, but to take it a step further and join much of the rest of the industrialised world in universal healthcare-dom would be most ideal, in my humble opinion.

This pretty much sums my feelings on the matter.

[Deuxtete]

obamacare is a good start but we really need to work it out so that everyone is covered.

ACA is awful. It's inexcusable that we don't have a universal healthcare system.
Obama deeply disappointed me on this.
I can't afford a plan, and was penalized on my taxes.

I do without employer provided healthcare specifically becaeuse me being on it would make it unaffordable for my family, and I am punished for this...on top of any medical bills I may incur personally.

It's fucked up healthcare fucked up in a way only Americans could manage.

[Deuxtete]

Yes, please.

Creating competition between the states Let the free market speak!

Why would we want competition between states in a healthcare market?

It was a joke.

[The Serbian Empire]

The question for me is will Janice Raymond's transphobic edict be used in the universal healthcare law? If so, then I prefer my private healthcare very much as I can still pay out of pocket to get my HRT and not be forced to live as a man. For as flawed as the ACA is, universal healthcare would be a step back in transgender rights if transgender people are not allowed to get HRT because of Janice Raymond's edict back in the 1980s that was accepted by the Reagan Administration.

[The Aradites]

As long as its 0% tax rate I'm totally alright with universal healthcare, gimme muh free stuff

[Diopolis]

The question for me is will Janice Raymond's transphobic edict be used in the universal healthcare law? If so, then I prefer my private healthcare very much as I can still pay out of pocket to get my HRT and not be forced to live as a man. For as flawed as the ACA is, universal healthcare would be a step back in transgender rights if transgender people are not allowed to get HRT because of Janice Raymond's edict back in the 1980s that was accepted by the Reagan Administration.

I somehow doubt that going to a universal healthcare system will ban transgenderism.

[The Serbian Empire]

The question for me is will Janice Raymond's transphobic edict be used in the universal healthcare law? If so, then I prefer my private healthcare very much as I can still pay out of pocket to get my HRT and not be forced to live as a man. For as flawed as the ACA is, universal healthcare would be a step back in transgender rights if transgender people are not allowed to get HRT because of Janice Raymond's edict back in the 1980s that was accepted by the Reagan Administration.

I somehow doubt that going to a universal healthcare system will ban transgenderism.

Medicare and Medicaid don't cover transgender related health expenses because of Raymond's edict. So in reality, nationalized healthcare is a threat to transwomen and transmen in particular due to Raymond's Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist stances having been placed in the government budgets for 30+ years.

[Deuxtete]

The question for me is will Janice Raymond's transphobic edict be used in the universal healthcare law? If so, then I prefer my private healthcare very much as I can still pay out of pocket to get my HRT and not be forced to live as a man. For as flawed as the ACA is, universal healthcare would be a step back in transgender rights if transgender people are not allowed to get HRT because of Janice Raymond's edict back in the 1980s that was accepted by the Reagan Administration.

Universal basic and catastrophic care, with a subsidized health account for private electives?

[Napkiraly]

You mean similar to the Canadian model where provinces are responsible for handling it, budgeting, etc. but receive some payments from the federal government to assist and sets a minimum standard to meet?

This seems like it would inevitably lead to any state run by Republicans having a healthcare system that was set up to be as minimalistic and inaccessible to the poor as legally possible.

That's why there'd be federal standards. Just like we have in Canada.