[DRAFT] International Energy Markets (IEM)

[NoFrellsGiven]

International Energy Markets (IEM)

Category: Free Trade
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: NoFrellsGiven


Description: The World Assembly,

RECOGNIZING that the interstate transmission of energy, the efficiency of energy transmission, and the reliability of energy supply is critical for: economic growth, reducing pollution, and increasing the capacity factors of energy producers.



ESTABLISHES: an International Energy Transmission Fund (IETF) for each of NS's eight Technology Tiers.

1.A
Each IETF will develop energy transmission capacity between nations within their Technology Tier.

1.B
Each IETF may develop energy transmission capacity between nations from other Technology Tiers if approved by the leaders of all states who are within the development of the IETF project.

1.C
All IETF projects will meet the regulatory requirements of all the states who are within the development of the IETF project.

1.D
No IETF project may damage an historic, spiritual, cultural, or natural landmark unless approved by the leaders of all states who are within the development of the IETF project.

1.E
All property consumed by an IETF project will be compensated for by fair market value.

1.F
Each IETF will also perform basic research into increasing the transmission efficiencies of IETF projects.



ESTABLISHES: an International Energy Market (IEM) for each of NS's eight Technology Tiers.

2.A
Each state is a member to the IEM that matches their corresponding Technology Tier.

2.B
Joining an IEM enables member states to better manage their domestic energy supply through purchases and sales of energy on an international market.

2.C
The price of energy on each IEM will be reported on the smallest granular of time that current technology between member states allows.

2.D
Each IEM only has jurisdiction over their corresponding Technology Tier's IETF transmission capacity and right of way over idle member states transmission capacity within their Technology Tier.

2.E
Transmission capacity required for domestic energy demand cannot be outbid by international states when the IEM is limited to only use IETF transmission capacity or a member nation's idle transmission capacity.

2.F
Nations in a higher Technology Tier are allowed but not required to participate in IEM's of a lower Technology Tier.



RULES: For Non-Discrimination Of Energy Resources.

3.A
There are no allowed fees or limits against government mandated clean energy resources or subsidized clean energy resources.

3.B
Clean energy resources are those that produce little to no pollution.

3.C
There are also no allowed fees or limits for demand response, energy efficiency, and energy storage.

3.D
Member nations may impose fees on energy resources based on the amount of pollution they produce.

3.E
If a nation raises a fee on pollution that nation must apply the fee universally on all international and domestic resources.



RULES: for Reporting.

4.A
The IETF and IEM for each Technology Tier is to:

4.B
Produce fully transparent quarterly operating reports.

4.C
Produce yearly reports predicting future demand, cost/benefit analysis of current energy technologies, and cost/benefit analysis of predicted future energy technologies.



DEFINES: Technology Tiers on a scale of 0-7 having higher ranked tiers with lower tier numbers.

5.A
All states will at a minimum belong to Technology Tier 7.

5.B
To advance to higher tiers a state must master that tiers defining technology and the technologies of all lower tiers.

Technology Scale: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic ... 3&t=244917
(Link will be removed upon submission)

Tier 0: Transcendence, Intergalactic Travel

Tier 1: Create Life And Sentient AI, Cross Galaxy Travel

Tier 2: Energy Shields, Cross Galaxy Communication

Tier 3: Faster Than Light (FTL) Space Travel

Tier 4: Fusion Age

Tier 5: Fission Age

Tier 6: Coal Age

Tier 7: Iron Age

[Separatist Peoples]

"Violates GAR#68. Opposed."

[Imperium Anglorum]

"Violates GAR#68. Opposed."

Ambassador, in other terms, that makes it illegal.

[NoFrellsGiven]

Is there a link to GAR#68

[Imperium Anglorum]

Is there a link to GAR#68

Use the forum thread containing a copy of all resolutions linked at the top of the page.

[NoFrellsGiven]

Do you mean GAR#68 to be:

National Economic Freedoms: viewtopic.php?p=799613#p799613

The goal of the IEM is not to administer power generation within states. Only to enable the sale of power between states.

[Separatist Peoples]

Do you mean GAR#68 to be:

National Economic Freedoms: https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopi ... 13#p799613

The goal of the IEM is not to administer power generation within states. Only to enable the sale of power between states.

"Regulating who traded with who at what level will have an undeniable impact on national economies, and the companies that are in energy transmission are as involved in domestic trade as international. Balancing consumption versus demand will have the same impact. 3B especially impacts domestic trade.

"The C.D.S.P. has no intention of paying a fee to any organization for the privilage of engaging in energy transfer or sale, nor either to allow the WA to regulate our transmission rates."

[Imperium Anglorum]

Secondarily, what is your category? Right now, it looks like: the category for imaginary fairyland utopia legislation.

[Separatist Peoples]

Secondarily, what is your category? Right now, it looks like: the category for imaginary fairyland utopia legislation.

"Indeed. There is no economic growth category."

[NoFrellsGiven]

Do you mean GAR#68 to be:

National Economic Freedoms: viewtopic.php?p=799613#p799613

The goal of the IEM is not to administer power generation within states. Only to enable the sale of power between states.

"Regulating who traded with who at what level will have an undeniable impact on national economies, and the companies that are in energy transmission are as involved in domestic trade as international. Balancing consumption versus demand will have the same impact. 3B especially impacts domestic trade.

"The C.D.S.P. has no intention of paying a fee to any organization for the privilage of engaging in energy transfer or sale, nor either to allow the WA to regulate our transmission rates."

Rewording this a bit may make it more clear.

2.B The IEM enables member states to better manage their domestic energy supply through sales on an international market.

The IEM is not to manage nation states domestic policy. The IEM enables the sale of power between states. The WA will never artificially limit transmission rates and will only regulate transmission capacity built by the IETF.

[Imperium Anglorum]

OOC: There's so many problems with this, I'm going to use a numbering system so I don't have to type the same thing over and over again.

Objection 1: This interferes with national sovereignty.
Objection 2: This is not defined.
Objection 3: This violates National Economic Freedoms.
Objection 4: This is a waste of World Assembly funds.

1.A Exchange all technologies for energy transmission with all member states within their civilization tier.

Objection 1.

1.B Establish an International Energy Transmission Fund (IETF) for each civilization tier.

Why do we need this?

1.C The IETF will develop energy transmission capacity between nations within their current civilization tier.

Objection 2.

1.D The IETF is to be paid for by a fee on Energy Transactions between nations within the International Energy Market for its civilization tier. The initial source of funding for the IETF will be a one time fee on each member state based on their GDP.

Objection 1 and 3.

1.E Each tier of the IETF will also perform basic research into increasing transmission efficiencies.

Why do we need this if you're going to establish different tiers of technology? Ask the next tier.

2.A Establish an International Energy Market (IEM) for each civilization tier:

Why do we need this?

2.B The IEM helps member states manage their balance between energy supply and consumption.

Yea, yea, and the WSA helps people develop space without interference from the 'elites'.

2.C The price of electricity on the IEM will be reported on the smallest granular of time that current technology between member states allows.

Objection 2.

2.D The interruption of the transmission of energy purchased on the International Energy Market will impose a fee of twice the purchase price on the interrupting state.

Objection 1. And, secondarily, if I'm going to negotiate a contract with my colony, Transilia, then why does the World Assembly need to be involved.

2.E Higher tier civilizations are allowed but not required to participate in lower tier markets.

Objection 1!

3.B Member nations may impose fees on energy resources based on the amount of pollution they produce. If a nation raises a fee on pollution it must be applied equally to both international and domestic resources.

How magnanimously generous of you, allowing member nations to do something!

3.C There are no allowed fees or limits against government-authorized or subsidized clean energy resources.

Objection 1!

3.D Clean energy resources are those that produce little to no pollution.

Objection 2.

3.E The markets also allows for full participation of demand response, energy efficiency, and energy storage without penalty.

What the bugger is this?

4.C Produce quarterly operating reports.

Yea, yea, and I presume they're going to be juicy reads like those stories about ritual murder.

4.D Produce yearly reports predicting future demand, cost/benefit analysis of current technologies, and cost/benefit analysis of future predicted technologies.

Objection 4.

5.C Have a board of directors represented by a delegate from each region within that board's civilization tier.

I know something you don't.

5.D The delegate from each region will belong to the board's civilization tier and be selected by a popular vote every year by that regions members who belong to the respective board's civilization tier.

I know something you don't.

5.E The delegate will have voting power within the board by shares which total the number of nations in that region in their respective civilization tier.

I know something you don't.

5.F The management and employees of the board will follow the standard rules of conduct and ethics for bureaucracies of the WA.

Good thing we don't have one.

6.A Exchange all energy efficiency and clean energy technologies with all member nations within their civilization tier. If a clean energy resource can be used to create weapons of mass destruction, that technology is exempt from this recommendation.

Objection 1!

6.B Develop an international standardized rate of fees for pollution.

Objection 1!

[NoFrellsGiven]

The civilization tier is for those nations for example who may have Zero Point Modules to not be required to share anything with emergent civilizations.

Here is a nation states tech scale.
viewtopic.php?f=23&t=340185&p=24443285&hilit=civilization+tiers#p24443285

I was thinking of the Kardashev scale.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale

I think I saw a more detailed civilization scale in the nation state forums.

The only technology requirement is the sharing of transmission technology. This is not much of a trade secret anyway. There is a recommendation for more technology sharing but not required. 6.A and 6.B are only recommendations and I think the source of the objections.

[NoFrellsGiven]

These objections could possibly use some clarification:

2.C The price of electricity on the IEM will be reported on the smallest granular of time that current technology between member states allows.

This is to increase the accuracy of the cost of the power being produced. For example though i wanted to stay abstract and not use earthly units. Electricity is to be purchased on the minute or hourly cost of production. Not yearly averages which prevents efficiency and demand management from participating in the market. For example aluminum or hydrogen production cycling.

2.D The interruption of the transmission of energy purchased on the International Energy Market will impose a fee of twice the purchase price on the interrupting state.

Objection 1. And, secondarily, if I'm going to negotiate a contract with my colony, Transilia, then why does the World Assembly need to be involved.

Would not happen. If you want to build power lines to Transilia the WA will not be involved. The IEM can only enable the sale of power on capacity built by the IETF

3.D Clean energy resources are those that produce little to no pollution.

Objection 2.

The cost/benefits of solar and nuclear should be debated. But this was not the goal of the IEM. Since the IEM will be run by popular representatives. And the popular opinion is that solar, nuclear, and carbon capture are all clean techs. I believe they all will be included in the non discrimination definition of clean energy.

[Imperium Anglorum]

The cost/benefits of solar and nuclear should be debated. But this was not the goal of the IEM. Since the IEM will be run by popular representatives. And the popular opinion is that solar, nuclear, and carbon capture are all clean techs. I believe they all will be included in the non discrimination definition of clean energy.

I still know something you don't.

[NoFrellsGiven]

The cost/benefits of solar and nuclear should be debated. But this was not the goal of the IEM. Since the IEM will be run by popular representatives. And the popular opinion is that solar, nuclear, and carbon capture are all clean techs. I believe they all will be included in the non discrimination definition of clean energy.

I still know something you don't.

Perhaps the WA already has legislation for how to build a bureaucracy. If management definitions are not needed they can be removed. I wanted the IEM to be as democratic as possible. Please explain your position.

[Dooom35796821595]

As ambassodor Samuel L. Jackson once put it: hell no!

[Imperium Anglorum]

I still know something you don't.

Perhaps the WA already has legislation for how to build a bureaucracy. If management definitions are not needed they can be removed. I wanted the IEM to be as democratic as possible. Please explain your position.

Read the rules. That is my position.

[Jarish Inyo]

Opposed. We will never share our technology freely with other nations. Nor will we pay a fee to the WA when we trade goods in international markets.

[NoFrellsGiven]

Opposed. We will never share our technology freely with other nations. Nor will we pay a fee to the WA when we trade goods in international markets.

There are no great secrets to transmission technologies within a given civilization tier. Generating electricity with fusion or zpms would be a massive exchange of tech which this does not mandate. And you can continue to build your own power lines wherever you want. There is only a fee to expand the international lines when you use them. This is not like taxing the open air or sea. It would not be possible to trade electricity internationally if an international organization did not build transmission capacity.

[Separatist Peoples]

Opposed. We will never share our technology freely with other nations. Nor will we pay a fee to the WA when we trade goods in international markets.

There are no great secrets to transmission technologies within a given civilization tier. Generating electricity with fusion or zpms would be a massive exchange of tech which this does not mandate. And you can continue to build your own power lines wherever you want. There is only a fee to expand the international lines when you use them.

"Which is a lie. The C.D.S.P. has plenty. Also, this is not Free Trade. It strikes down no barriers."

[Separatist Peoples]

"Good of you to not ask for an example. That would be foolish, eh? Furthermore, Free Trade has no Area of Effect."

[NoFrellsGiven]

"Which is a lie. The C.D.S.P. has plenty. Also, this is not Free Trade. It strikes down no barriers."

This is a perfect example of expanding free trade in modern times. This is not like taxing the open air or sea. It would not be possible to trade electricity internationally if an international organization did not build transmission capacity. And you can continue to build your own exclusive power lines wherever you want.

Give an example of an exclusive transmission technology that is not solely protected by patents. Patents are the greatest barrier to free trade. Nuclear is not even that great of a secret. The time and capital costs are the great barriers.

Is there even transmission tech beyond basic protocols these days. I am trying to include fantasy tech like ZPMs and microwave energy collected by solar from space in this game. These fantasy transmission techs would be silo-ed by the civilization tiers. And this tech would not be required to be traded by higher tier civilizations to lower tier civilizations.

[NoFrellsGiven]

"Good of you to not ask for an example. That would be foolish, eh? Furthermore, Free Trade has no Area of Effect."

Think of this resolutions goals as more like ICANN for the internet. Where does ICANN fit in your definition of free trade.

[Imperium Anglorum]

This is a perfect example of expanding free trade in modern times. This is not like taxing the open air or sea. It would not be possible to trade electricity internationally if an international organization did not build transmission capacity. And you can continue to build your own exclusive power lines wherever you want.

OOC: Free trade includes:

• Trade of goods without taxes (including tariffs) or other trade barriers (e.g., quotas on imports or subsidies for producers)
• Trade in services without taxes or other trade barriers
• The absence of "trade-distorting" policies (such as taxes, subsidies, regulations, or laws) that give some firms, households, or factors of production an advantage over others
• Unregulated access to markets
• Unregulated access to market information
• Inability of firms to distort markets through government-imposed monopoly or oligopoly power
• Trade agreements which encourage free trade.

But not: 'Have the government distort markets through oligopoly power by building transmission lines'.

Give an example of an exclusive transmission technology that is not solely protected by patents. Patents are the greatest barrier to free trade. Nuclear is not even that great of a secret. The time and capital costs are the great barriers.

Parsons: (dismissively) That's like saying, give an example of a duck which is not a duck. Exclusive technology implies protected by patents.

Dr Keynes: Patents are also the reason why corporations make new things. They are necessary to counter-balance the risk incurred when creating a new product (also known as the capital expenditure).

Is there even transmission tech beyond basic protocols these days. I am trying to include fantasy tech like ZPMs and microwave energy collected by solar from space in this game. These fantasy transmission techs would be silo-ed by the civilization tiers.

Silo-ed? What?

[Normlpeople]

Opposed. We will never share our technology freely with other nations. Nor will we pay a fee to the WA when we trade goods in international markets.

There are no great secrets to transmission technologies within a given civilization tier. Generating electricity with fusion or zpms would be a massive exchange of tech which this does not mandate. And you can continue to build your own power lines wherever you want. There is only a fee to expand the international lines when you use them. This is not like taxing the open air or sea. It would not be possible to trade electricity internationally if an international organization did not build transmission capacity.

Clover laughed "Actually... one of our neighbors has a booming industrial city just inside the border. Many of our citizens work there. We have assisted them in this endeavor by building a hydro transmission line over the border and providing them with additional electricity as needed. How did we ever accomplish this monumental task without a WA bureaucracy?"