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[DEAD RESOLUTION] The International Disaster Fund

Postby Partola » Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:19 pm

[DRAFT] VOL.3 - CURRENT STATE OF RESOLUTION

Council: General Assembly
Category: International Security
Resolution Name: International Disaster Fund

Description: The Establishment of the International Disaster Fund which will be formally known as the IDF to bring economic stability.

Argument The World Assembly

Understanding the threat of Non-WA nations and their unpredictability,

Recognizing that an international organization for the sole purpose of economic aid is essential to the world's well being,

Mandating that a collection of money will have to be done in due process to fund the IDF,

Defining a disaster as a sudden event, such as an accident or natural catastrophe which includes but is not restricted to hurricanes, earthquakes, or floods, or other events that cause a great deal of damage or loss of life,

Further noting that all WA Member nations will be provided with relief package in the case of "disaster",

Granting economic stability to the WA Members with the passing of this legislation,

Hereby establishing the International Disaster Fund as a World Assembly Organization for relief to nations in case of "disaster".

Co-Sponsored by The United States of Soviet Britain.



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Postby Separatist Peoples » Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:26 pm

"Duplicates GAR#51 and violates the rule on committees that makes sure nations cannot send staff to chair committees, not collectively chair them as a national whole. It is, I'm afraid, illegal."

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Postby Partola » Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:29 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:"Duplicates GAR#51 and violates the rule on committees that makes sure nations cannot send staff to chair committees, not collectively chair them as a national whole. It is, I'm afraid, illegal."


I am editing staff sending. What abut GAR#51 what is that and could you explain?

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:30 pm

Partola wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:"Duplicates GAR#51 and violates the rule on committees that makes sure nations cannot send staff to chair committees, not collectively chair them as a national whole. It is, I'm afraid, illegal."


I am editing staff sending. What abut GAR#51 what is that and could you explain?

"It's a previous resolution that covers disaster relief. It can be found in the Passed Resolutions database."

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Postby Partola » Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:34 pm

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I am editing staff sending. What abut GAR#51 what is that and could you explain?

"It's a previous resolution that covers disaster relief. It can be found in the Passed Resolutions database."


Upon reviewing this outstanding piece of legislation, it comes to protect the individual such as citizens not the nation which is what my organization will bring aid to. My proposal simply bring economic safe haven to nations.

Who could give me the final answer as to if it is legal or illegal to have such resolution presented to the floor of the General Assembly of the World Assembly?
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:36 pm

Partola wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:"It's a previous resolution that covers disaster relief. It can be found in the Passed Resolutions database."


Upon reviewing this outstanding piece of legislation, it comes to protect the individual such as citizens not the nation which is what my organization will bring aid to. My proposal simply bring economic safe haven to nations.

Who could give me the final answer as to if it is legal or illegal to have such resolution presented to the floor of the General Assembly of the World Assembly?

OOC: ask a moderator for a legality check, but this isn't legal. You'd be wasting your time.

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Postby The Arabian Emirates » Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:53 pm

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On behalf, of The Arabian Emirates, and behalf of the President Pasqualle Scalleta, The Arabian Emirates will bring aid to nations who suffer from disasters.

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:56 pm

The Arabian Emirates wrote:The Arabian Emirates

Director of Foreign Affairs - Vito Mancini

On behalf, of The Arabian Emirates, and behalf of the President Pasqualle Scalleta, The Arabian Emirates will bring aid to nations who suffer from disasters.

Director of Foreign Affairs - Vito Mancini

The Arabian Emirates

That's fine. Now, are you going to comment on the proposal here or make a proposal?

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Description: The Establishment of the International Disaster Fund which will be formally known as the IDF. Sponsored by Partola and Co-Sponsored by Antarceca and The United States of Soviet Britain

OOC: The sponsoring nation's name is automatically added by the game's coding and should not be mentioned in the text, and you are only allowed one co-author or 'co-sponsor'. It is customary, although perhaps not an enforced rule, that any "Co-Authored by" note be placed at the end of the proposal.
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Postby Partola » Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:28 am

[DRAFT] VOL.2

Council: General Assembly
Category: International Security
Resolution Name: International Disaster Fund - IDF

Description: The Establishment of the International Disaster Fund which will be formally known as the IDF.

Argument The World Assembly

Understanding the threat of Non-WA nations and their unpredictability,

Recognizing that an international organization for the sole purpose of economic aid is essential to the world's well being,

Noting that a collection of money will have to be done in due process to fund the IDF,

Further noting that all WA Member nations will be provided with relief package in the case of "disaster",

Defining a disaster as a sudden event, such as an accident or a natural catastrophe or other events, that causes great damage or loss of life,

Granting stability to the WA Members with the passing of this legislation,

Hereby establishing the International Disaster Fund as a World Assembly Organization.

Co-Sponsored by Antarcteca and The United States of Soviet Britain

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Postby Wrapper » Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:36 am

One, you should edit the draft at the top of the page, to keep that current. Two, you still haven't solved the following illegalities:

-- This duplicates GAR#51
-- This violates the "just a committee" rule (it doesn't make nations do anything legislatively)
-- You still have two co-authors listed

Your heart is in the right place, but you really should review the proposal rules at the top of the forum.

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Postby Kilimantonian » Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:44 am

Just a question: will the 'IDF' provide 'relief packages' to nations that are the victims of hostile acts (i.e. raiding)? Such acts would certainly constitute "a sudden event... that causes great damage or loss of life."
Also, should be "great damage and/or loss of life."
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Postby Partola » Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:07 pm

Kilimantonian wrote:Just a question: will the 'IDF' provide 'relief packages' to nations that are the victims of hostile acts (i.e. raiding)? Such acts would certainly constitute "a sudden event... that causes great damage or loss of life."
Also, should be "great damage and/or loss of life."


Yes, the IDF brings aid to regions of which have been raided.

Thank you for your feedback, the resolution is being redrafted.

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:13 pm

Partola wrote:
Kilimantonian wrote:Just a question: will the 'IDF' provide 'relief packages' to nations that are the victims of hostile acts (i.e. raiding)? Such acts would certainly constitute "a sudden event... that causes great damage or loss of life."
Also, should be "great damage and/or loss of life."


Yes, the IDF brings aid to regions of which have been raided.

Thank you for your feedback, the resolution is being redrafted.

OOC: any reference to that would make this illegal for Metagaming.

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Postby Partola » Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:13 pm

Wrapper wrote:One, you should edit the draft at the top of the page, to keep that current. Two, you still haven't solved the following illegalities:

-- This duplicates GAR#51
-- This violates the "just a committee" rule (it doesn't make nations do anything legislatively)
-- You still have two co-authors listed

Your heart is in the right place, but you really should review the proposal rules at the top of the forum.


I am using the objection to the first part that G.A.R.51 simply provides Humanitarian Support and not economic haven to nations. We provide support to nations whom suffer from disaster, with the resolution we have drafted, we do not provide humanitarian support -- we provide economic haben.

To the second part I didn't quite understand what you mean.

To the 3rd part, I don't believe two Co-Sponsors are ruled against in the rules for a resolution. If they are could do me a favor and link me to the area of which restricts me from adding a second Co-Sponsor so I may immediately fix this.

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Postby Partola » Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:14 pm

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Yes, the IDF brings aid to regions of which have been raided.

Thank you for your feedback, the resolution is being redrafted.

OOC: any reference to that would make this illegal for Metagaming.


So defining disaster as raiding should not be included in the draft for the resolution?

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Postby Partola » Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:10 pm

Bump

Any other opinion on legality or others besides co-sponsors and GRA51?

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Postby Blaccakre » Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:29 pm

Why did you shout "THE INTERNATIONAL DISASTER FUND" in the thread title? Are you RPing an ambassador with volume control problems?
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Postby Partola » Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:37 pm

Blaccakre wrote:Why did you shout "THE INTERNATIONAL DISASTER FUND" in the thread title? Are you RPing an ambassador with volume control problems?


Um.. Sure... :meh:

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Postby Wrapper » Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:51 pm

Partola wrote:
Wrapper wrote:One, you should edit the draft at the top of the page, to keep that current. Two, you still haven't solved the following illegalities:

-- This duplicates GAR#51
-- This violates the "just a committee" rule (it doesn't make nations do anything legislatively)
-- You still have two co-authors listed

Your heart is in the right place, but you really should review the proposal rules at the top of the forum.


I am using the objection to the first part that G.A.R.51 simply provides Humanitarian Support and not economic haven to nations. We provide support to nations whom suffer from disaster, with the resolution we have drafted, we do not provide humanitarian support -- we provide economic haben.

Okay, so based on your reply, you're saying that, when disaster occurs, in addition to already sending humanitarian supplies, including food, clothing, medical supplies, building supplies, etc., we should also send money? To achieve what purpose? We're already supporting their economy in times of need by supplying them much-needed tangible goods, what would they do with monetary aid as well? Even if the mods rule this legal, you're going to have to do a great deal of convincing that we should send money anytime a disaster hits.

To the second part I didn't quite understand what you mean.

Proposal rules (pay attention to the stuff on committees): viewtopic.php?f=9&t=159348

There are other rulings too, that state that a nation must do something, anything, other than just interact with a committee. For example, a clause that "ENCOURAGES (or URGES or IMPLORES or MANDATES or whatever) member nations to do X, Y and Z" would avoid the committee-only illegality.

To the 3rd part, I don't believe two Co-Sponsors are ruled against in the rules for a resolution. If they are could do me a favor and link me to the area of which restricts me from adding a second Co-Sponsor so I may immediately fix this.

Ruling on one co-author per GA proposal: viewtopic.php?p=17294290#p17294290

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Postby Povinksi » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:16 pm

This duplicates GAR 51. Also, what defines "natural disaster?" Roleplaying or nation description? And the WA cannot provide "aid" to a recently invaded region. That would be impossible.
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Postby Partola » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:28 pm

Wrapper wrote:
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I am using the objection to the first part that G.A.R.51 simply provides Humanitarian Support and not economic haven to nations. We provide support to nations whom suffer from disaster, with the resolution we have drafted, we do not provide humanitarian support -- we provide economic haben.

Okay, so based on your reply, you're saying that, when disaster occurs, in addition to already sending humanitarian supplies, including food, clothing, medical supplies, building supplies, etc., we should also send money? To achieve what purpose? We're already supporting their economy in times of need by supplying them much-needed tangible goods, what would they do with monetary aid as well? Even if the mods rule this legal, you're going to have to do a great deal of convincing that we should send money anytime a disaster hits.

To the second part I didn't quite understand what you mean.

Proposal rules (pay attention to the stuff on committees): viewtopic.php?f=9&t=159348

There are other rulings too, that state that a nation must do something, anything, other than just interact with a committee. For example, a clause that "ENCOURAGES (or URGES or IMPLORES or MANDATES or whatever) member nations to do X, Y and Z" would avoid the committee-only illegality.

To the 3rd part, I don't believe two Co-Sponsors are ruled against in the rules for a resolution. If they are could do me a favor and link me to the area of which restricts me from adding a second Co-Sponsor so I may immediately fix this.

Ruling on one co-author per GA proposal: viewtopic.php?p=17294290#p17294290


In sending monetary packages we can actually solve the damages made by the "disaster" for example GRA51 provides aid for the people of the nation but not aid to rebuilding -- that is where our funding comes in. When the IDF sees that a disaster occurs than a monetary package will be delivered for specific things such as rebuilding infrastructure, rebuilding buildings and providing money to stabilize their economy in the case that it is to destabilize due to destruction of their assets.

I will fix the resolution so it demands on action and does not just establish an organization.

The sole co-sponsor has been decided thank you. I GREATLY thank you for your criticism so I can hopefully bring it to the floor of the General Assembly of the World Assembly.

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Postby Partola » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:34 pm

After 3 drafts I am quite happy with this one but your citicism is still welcome!

[DRAFT] VOL.3

Council: General Assembly
Category: International Security
Resolution Name: International Disaster Fund

Description: The Establishment of the International Disaster Fund which will be formally known as the IDF to bring economic stability.

Argument The World Assembly

Understanding the threat of Non-WA nations and their unpredictability,

Recognizing that an international organization for the sole purpose of economic aid is essential to the world's well being,

Mandating that a collection of money will have to be done in due process to fund the IDF,

Defining a disaster as a sudden event, such as an accident or natural catastrophe which includes but is not restricted to hurricanes, earthquakes, or floods, or other events that cause a great deal of damage or loss of life,

Further noting that all WA Member nations will be provided with relief package in the case of "disaster",

Granting economic stability to the WA Members with the passing of this legislation,

Hereby establishing the International Disaster Fund as a World Assembly Organization for relief to nations in case of "disaster".

Co-Sponsored by The United States of Soviet Britain.




Amendments may be proposed HERE.
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Postby Povinksi » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:44 pm

This also duplicates Resolution #29, creation of the IRCO (International Red Cross Organization)
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:56 pm

Please put new drafts in the OP.

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