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Banning certain ideologies

Postby Azorean Lands » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:32 pm

Should certain ideologies be banned?
As you're probably guessing, I mean extremist ideologies who discriminate based on race, faith or personal beliefs.
Should a democratic country give out a complete ban on anti-democratic ideologies? Say, nazism, fascism, islamist extremism, etc.

What about their symbols, should the government ban symbols that could be associated with these particular groups?

I know the original post should contain the opinion of the person who opened the thread, but I still don't have this quite well figured out, while on one hand I believe in freedom of speech, I also believe extremist views shouldn't be given power, being unsure on what I should support, I'd like to hear your arguments for or against this.
What is your opinion on this?

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Postby New Werpland » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:33 pm

Banning them from what? From government? From schools? From being adopted by someone?
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Postby Azorean Lands » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:34 pm

New Werpland wrote:Banning them from what? From government? From schools? From being adopted by someone?

I suppose from government and schools, but I'd like to hear your opinions on how far they should be persecuted.

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Postby Sam Hyde » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:35 pm

smiley faces are extremist. ban those.
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Postby Pugmire » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:36 pm

Of course. W e already do so anyway, at least in the United States.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist ... ct_of_1954

The same should be applied to organizations like radical religious fundamentalists, hate groups, etc. Such organizations simply have no place in a democracy when their stated purposes are to undermine democracy.

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Postby New Grestin » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:38 pm

Look, I'm not gonna say we should ban Scientology...

But we should totally ban Scientology.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:39 pm

...is incredibly stupid.
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Postby Bezombia » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:41 pm

Absolutely not.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:42 pm

Pugmire wrote:Of course. W e already do so anyway, at least in the United States.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist ... ct_of_1954

The same should be applied to organizations like radical religious fundamentalists, hate groups, etc. Such organizations simply have no place in a democracy when their stated purposes are to undermine democracy.


Banning other opinions defeats the purpose of democracy in the first place...
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Postby Saint Kitten » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:42 pm

Let's just ban everything then.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:42 pm

I have thought about the idea of banning Islamic Extremism, Scientology, and Maoism in particular, but I see it as wrong to ban ideologies as it's people who make the ideologies bad.
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Postby Azorean Lands » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:42 pm

Bezombia wrote:Absolutely not.

So should a democratically elected nazi party be allowed to take power?

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Postby Laerod » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:44 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Pugmire wrote:Of course. W e already do so anyway, at least in the United States.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist ... ct_of_1954

The same should be applied to organizations like radical religious fundamentalists, hate groups, etc. Such organizations simply have no place in a democracy when their stated purposes are to undermine democracy.


Banning other opinions defeats the purpose of democracy in the first place...

No, because Weimar Republic.

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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:45 pm

That's impossible.

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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:46 pm

Azorean Lands wrote:
Bezombia wrote:Absolutely not.

So should a democratically elected nazi party be allowed to take power?

I don't see how you can ban something if the majority of the populace is in support of it.

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Postby Transoxthraxia » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:47 pm

Nope.

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Postby Azorean Lands » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:47 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Azorean Lands wrote:So should a democratically elected nazi party be allowed to take power?

I don't see how you can ban something if the majority of the populace is in support of it.

With a police force.

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Postby Laerod » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:47 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Azorean Lands wrote:So should a democratically elected nazi party be allowed to take power?

I don't see how you can ban something if the majority of the populace is in support of it.

Why would the majority of the populace need to support a nazi party for it to be democratically elected?

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Postby Noricum Novum » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:47 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Azorean Lands wrote:I don't see how you can ban something if the majority of the populace is in support of it.

Applying this principle so purely is a sure way towards tyranny by majority. A democracy that does not protect minorities is nothing but mob rule.
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:48 pm

Distasteful viewpoints should be challenged and defeated in public, not silenced. Besides, where do you draw the line between dangerous, extreme ideologies and merely unpopular ones?
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:48 pm

Azorean Lands wrote:
Merizoc wrote:I don't see how you can ban something if the majority of the populace is in support of it.

With a police force.

…….

The point



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Postby Azorean Lands » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:49 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:Distasteful viewpoints should be challenged and defeated in public, not silenced. Besides, where do you draw the line between dangerous, extreme ideologies and merely unpopular ones?

By banning those views that wish to end the democratic regime.

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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:49 pm

Laerod wrote:
Merizoc wrote:I don't see how you can ban something if the majority of the populace is in support of it.

Why would the majority of the populace need to support a nazi party for it to be democratically elected?

Voting populace, I should specify.

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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:49 pm

Azorean Lands wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:Distasteful viewpoints should be challenged and defeated in public, not silenced. Besides, where do you draw the line between dangerous, extreme ideologies and merely unpopular ones?

By banning those views that wish to end the democratic regime.

Ones like the view you're advocating, for example?

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