Why do we glorify the light side of the force?

[CTALNH]

Why is that I have never understood this.

The real world is a mixture of gray with more gray on top of it but on the bottom line we glorify good. A vague term to imply something that society at that specific point in time and place thinks what constitutes good.

Take for example the Galactic empire in star wars or better yet the Sith/Dark Jedi themselves.

Why are they "evil" because they use underhanded means and seek to use the power they are gifted to advance not only themselves but society as a whole even if that means people get hurt along the way?

Crimes are evil yes but even the Sith punish crime becuase they know its bad.

Why are the Sith branded as criminals when the Jedi are to be lauded for stumbling around doing nothing and being all proper and such?

The Sith code says:
Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Indeed life is hard and tests you at every corner.
Through passion, I gain strength. Why is it bad to have determination and ambition that leads to the development of talent?
Through strength, I gain power. Talent put on good use to further oneself.
Through power, I gain victory. Every day living to the fullest.
Through victory, my chains are broken. Power gives you choices on what to do.
The Force shall free me. Acknowledgement of ones on abilities.

On the side the Jedi code is nonsensical:

There is no emotion, there is peace. Rejecting reality itself? Why? For what purpose?
There is no ignorance, there is knowledge. Knowing that your ignorant and rectifying that brings knowledge not standing around.
There is no passion, there is serenity. WTF does this mean?
There is no death, there is the Force. Superstition much...

So what is your opinion why do we glorify the light side of the force? Is it simply because Lucas is one dimensional ass hole who can't competently write character more than your stereotypical evil or something else?

No Midi-chlorian allowed

[Lumeau]

It's because the Sith were active practicioners of murder, treachery, and genocide. See: Alderaan.

The Empire was not about "advancing society." Palaptine planned to rule eternally (or as close to eternally as one can get) - his rise to the galactic throne was a power trip and nothing more.

Your argument also assumes the Sith Code is a literal embodiment of a Sith's true nature, which is obviously untrue.

[Ifreann]

Palpatine started a war so he could install himself as Emperor of the galaxy. Anakin Skywalker murdered children. The Jedi might be less good on analysis than we're meant to take them for, but the Sith are clearly worse.

[CTALNH]

It's because the Sith were active practicioners of murder, treachery, and genocide. See: Alderaan.

The Empire was not about "advancing society." Palaptine planned to rule eternally (or as close to eternally as one can get) - his rise to the galactic throne was a power trip and nothing more.

Your argument also assumes the Sith Code is a literal embodiment of a Sith's true nature, which is obviously untrue.

Indeed your correct on all accounts but your looking at this one dimensionally

The Empire brought order to the lawless sectors of the universe yes with force and responded brutally but with extreme efficiency against an internal rebellion.

Whats wrong with an eternal leader?

That assumption is half correct I know the sith code is not the literal embodiment of a Sith's true nature but at least its a lot more grounded to reality than what the hell the Jedi believe.

[Lumeau]

Also, the Jedi Code makes a hell of a lot more sense when you read it as something to aspire to.

And "There is no death, there is the Force" isn't mere superstition - it's true in a way. It's fact that the spirits of Jedi become one with the force after death, and Qui-Gon Jinn found a way to "return" from the dead and commune with the living.

[Totenkopfka]

Because it's a binary Ethical choice, that allows the director to put forth what he sees as Good and Evil and make it the objective reality for the fictional universe.

Honestly their both shit.

Jedis are weak passive robots.
And Sith are whiney little backstabbers.

[CTALNH]

Palpatine started a war so he could install himself as Emperor of the galaxy. Anakin Skywalker murdered children. The Jedi might be less good on analysis than we're meant to take them for, but the Sith are clearly worse.

Reality sucks and we must do bad things whats the problem again?

Palpatine did what he had to do and Anakin kill Jedi padawan soldiers in training for the enemy if you forget.

[Norstal]

It's because the Sith were active practicioners of murder, treachery, and genocide. See: Alderaan.

The Empire was not about "advancing society." Palaptine planned to rule eternally (or as close to eternally as one can get) - his rise to the galactic throne was a power trip and nothing more.

Your argument also assumes the Sith Code is a literal embodiment of a Sith's true nature, which is obviously untrue.

Indeed your correct on all accounts but your looking at this one dimensionally

The Empire brought order to the lawless sectors of the universe yes with force and responded brutally but with extreme efficiency against an internal rebellion.

Whats wrong with an eternal leader?

That assumption is half correct I know the sith code is not the literal embodiment of a Sith's true nature but at least its a lot more grounded to reality than what the hell the Jedi believe.

But there was order before the Empire. It was called the Republic...

[Galloism]

Palpatine started a war so he could install himself as Emperor of the galaxy. Anakin Skywalker murdered children. The Jedi might be less good on analysis than we're meant to take them for, but the Sith are clearly worse.

Hey - I was young and angtsy. Also a victim of poor writing. You can't hold that against me.

[Lumeau]

It's because the Sith were active practicioners of murder, treachery, and genocide. See: Alderaan.

The Empire was not about "advancing society." Palaptine planned to rule eternally (or as close to eternally as one can get) - his rise to the galactic throne was a power trip and nothing more.

Your argument also assumes the Sith Code is a literal embodiment of a Sith's true nature, which is obviously untrue.

Indeed your correct on all accounts but your looking at this one dimensionally

The Empire brought order to the lawless sectors of the universe yes with force and responded brutally but with extreme efficiency against an internal rebellion.

Whats wrong with an eternal leader?

That assumption is half correct I know the sith code is not the literal embodiment of a Sith's true nature but at least its a lot more grounded to reality than what the hell the Jedi believe.

A rebellion that the Sith themselves created for their own ends.

Superficially, nothing's wrong with an eternal leader, but Palpatine wasn't seeking that status to help the galaxy in any way. He did it solely because of his personal lust for power.

The Sith Code is essentially "there is only power, and those to weak to seek it" stated differently. It was merely a tool used to justify atrocities because the Code allowed Sith to not see them as wrong. So yes, it's much more nonsensical than the Jedi Code. The only thing "realistic" about it is that it's a realistic portrayal of the worst tendencies of sentient beings.

[Ifreann]

It's because the Sith were active practicioners of murder, treachery, and genocide. See: Alderaan.

The Empire was not about "advancing society." Palaptine planned to rule eternally (or as close to eternally as one can get) - his rise to the galactic throne was a power trip and nothing more.

Your argument also assumes the Sith Code is a literal embodiment of a Sith's true nature, which is obviously untrue.

Indeed your correct on all accounts but your looking at this one dimensionally

The Empire brought order to the lawless sectors of the universe yes with force and responded brutally but with extreme efficiency against an internal rebellion.

I had almost forgotten that you support killing all your political opponents.

Whats wrong with an eternal leader?

Maybe the fact that he's such an evil bastard who can only be removed from office by violent rebellion.

[Ifreann]

Palpatine started a war so he could install himself as Emperor of the galaxy. Anakin Skywalker murdered children. The Jedi might be less good on analysis than we're meant to take them for, but the Sith are clearly worse.

Hey - I was young and angtsy. Also a victim of poor writing. You can't hold that against me.

I don't think I'd try to hold anything against you.

[Arglorand]

Because the Sith are basically anarcho-social darwinists, that's why.

[The Nocter Empire]

Doesn't the Sith code says that you can kill those less talented than you ? I know there are people more talented than me...

[Ifreann]

Because the Sith are basically anarcho-darwinists, that's why.

The Sith, who established themselves as the emperor of the galaxy and his right-hand cyborg, are anarcho-darwinists?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

It's because the Sith were active practicioners of murder, treachery, and genocide. See: Alderaan.

The Empire was not about "advancing society." Palaptine planned to rule eternally (or as close to eternally as one can get) - his rise to the galactic throne was a power trip and nothing more.

Your argument also assumes the Sith Code is a literal embodiment of a Sith's true nature, which is obviously untrue.

The Sith were known for draining entire planets of life (Darth Revan talks about it, 8000 sith used a ritual to accomplish this) just to use the life force for their battles. One of the reasons the Jedi warred with them and drove them almost to extinction.

[CTALNH]

Indeed your correct on all accounts but your looking at this one dimensionally

The Empire brought order to the lawless sectors of the universe yes with force and responded brutally but with extreme efficiency against an internal rebellion.

Whats wrong with an eternal leader?

That assumption is half correct I know the sith code is not the literal embodiment of a Sith's true nature but at least its a lot more grounded to reality than what the hell the Jedi believe.

But there was order before the Empire. It was called the Republic...

Yeah right thats why it got taken down from the inside...Order my ass.

[New Frenco Empire]

Because the rebel scum and their dark pawn, George Lucas, have control of the media and seek to discredit the Sith with nothing but propaganda.

That, and anyone who can shoot lightning out of their hands is totes evil.

[Eastern Equestria]

Why is this thread not in Arts&Fiction?

[Galloism]

But there was order before the Empire. It was called the Republic...

Yeah right thats why it got taken down from the inside...Order my ass.

The empire also got taken down from the inside, by the second in command no less.

[Benuty]

Indeed your correct on all accounts but your looking at this one dimensionally

The Empire brought order to the lawless sectors of the universe yes with force and responded brutally but with extreme efficiency against an internal rebellion.

I had almost forgotten that you support killing all your political opponents.

Whats wrong with an eternal leader?

Maybe the fact that he's such an evil bastard who can only be removed from office by violent rebellion.

If I recall the clones were fitted with Order 65 which could remove the Chancellor from office instead of taking out the Jedi.

Damn shame that didn't happen, but it would mess with the original set of movies.

[Ifreann]

Why is this thread not in Arts&Fiction?

Because A&F is where everything that isn't ponies goes to die.

[Eastern Equestria]

Why is this thread not in Arts&Fiction?

Because A&F is where everything that isn't ponies goes to die.

I thought that was Forum 7. Oh well.

[Norstal]

But there was order before the Empire. It was called the Republic...

Yeah right thats why it got taken down from the inside...Order my ass.

The Empire was better? It got taken out by the fucking Rebel Alliance. And Darth Vader himself.

[CTALNH]

Why is this thread not in Arts&Fiction?

Well truth be told I didn't know where to put it.

On one side it discusses something art related at the other it discusses the balance of good and evil and shit like that.