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So much white guilt, and race-card pulling.

Postby InfiniX » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:04 pm

Even though, I am not white, I find it rather odd that white people act the way they do.

The media brings up things like Ferguson, and examples of "bad" cops shooting black males, when in reality black people are more likely to die by the other hands of black people, and that's statistically proven. If they didn't kill each other so much or resist arrest so much, then they probably wouldn't even be in the situation they are in.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/04 ... ack-crime/
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/cr ... r_2013.xls

93% of murders of black victims are perpetrated by black offenders.

" As empirical generalizations borne of the observations and experiences of millions of individuals, most stereotypes are on the whole true." - Satoshi Kanazawa

Very few talk about the police officers that were murdered in Ferguson and in Brooklyn.

Now if we look at some more actual statistics, we find that black people are more likely to kill whites than the other way around.
http://www.fathersmanifesto.net/genocide.htm

Yet, the media and race baiters always turn their heads on the true facts

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Postby Alyakia » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:06 pm

nobody debates police officers being killed because there is sizable group of people arguing that maybe police officers wouldn't be in the situation they are in if they didn't kill each other so much
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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:08 pm

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Postby Russels Orbiting Teapot » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:10 pm

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Yet, the media and race baiters always turn their heads on the true facts


"True facts about race in America "

Right...

Most murders are interracial, because most murderers kill people they associate with for personal reasons. We live in a segregated society due to redlining and "white flight," so this should be expected.

And attempts to deny the racism of Ferguson police officers, or the way that justice was administered to milk revenue out of the black populace, is to spit in the face of reality.

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Postby Holy Prospero » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:11 pm

I agree with your general sentiment - politicians and the media have twisted the facts of the Ferguson incident to suit their own agendas, but how can we take you seriously when you've linked us to a page that reads:

'The dirty little secret your jew controlled "news" media doesn't want you to know'
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Postby Aelex » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:12 pm

Why does it make me think so much of this?
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Postby Ohioan Territory » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:12 pm

The media likes to stir up bullshit.

The figures are quite interesting. I watched an Alltime Conspiracies video on the news that said how less than half of the things they report are facts. Media is so biased nowadays, it's sad.
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Postby Galactic Russian Empire » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:16 pm

Ohioan Territory wrote:The media likes to stir up bullshit.

The figures are quite interesting. I watched an Alltime Conspiracy video on the news that said how less than half of the things they report are facts. Media is so biased nowadays, it's sad.


Well, you are the media and you have two options:

Fill in the holes to a story/fabricate one to bring in more ratings and revenue or report cold hard boring facts about things no one would change the channel to the news for.

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Postby InfiniX » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:18 pm

Russels Orbiting Teapot wrote:
InfiniX wrote:
Yet, the media and race baiters always turn their heads on the true facts


"True facts about race in America "

Right...

Most murders are interracial, because most murderers kill people they associate with for personal reasons. We live in a segregated society due to redlining and "white flight," so this should be expected.

And attempts to deny the racism of Ferguson police officers, or the way that justice was administered to milk revenue out of the black populace, is to spit in the face of reality.


Hillary Clinton wanted the Ferguson PD to release their emails, but what about her own emails?

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Postby Edgy Opinions » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:21 pm

I find the accusations of racism on the behalf of the American white populace and white-dominated institutions, ideology spreaders and the economic system not even close to enough.

And yes, this OP is absurd.
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Postby Aelex » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:22 pm

It's quite funny to see that compared to U.S conservator, our own's one seem like dangerous leftists...
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Postby Neutraligon » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:27 pm

InfiniX wrote:
Russels Orbiting Teapot wrote:
"True facts about race in America "

Right...

Most murders are interracial, because most murderers kill people they associate with for personal reasons. We live in a segregated society due to redlining and "white flight," so this should be expected.

And attempts to deny the racism of Ferguson police officers, or the way that justice was administered to milk revenue out of the black populace, is to spit in the face of reality.


Hillary Clinton wanted the Ferguson PD to release their emails, but what about her own emails?


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Postby Bjorden » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:32 pm

Even by you providing facts to the people, they will deny them and create a non-logical excuse to say that it is still racism.

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Postby Zakuvia » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:33 pm

Honestly, this doesn't even count as the media, this is just a fountain of bigotry masquerading as a news source. Honestly, it's like taking something written by the 'editor' of Stormfront and accepting it as a mainstream source. Hell, even Fox knows better most of the time.
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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:34 pm

InfiniX wrote:
The media brings up things like Ferguson, and examples of "bad" cops shooting black males, when in reality black people are more likely to die by the other hands of black people, and that's statistically proven.

...And? What do these two things have to do in common with each other? People being more likely to be killed by someone of their own race isn't anything new. It's a result of racism in the form of segregation.
InfiniX wrote: If they didn't kill each other so much

Like every race does?
InfiniX wrote: or resist arrest so much, then they probably wouldn't even be in the situation they are in.

Really? Because, you can be black and not resist arrest and still be killed while be white and resist arrest and point GUNS at the police and just be arrested.
InfiniX wrote:
93% of murders of black victims are perpetrated by black offenders.

It's almost like people are more likely to kill those who are around them.
InfiniX wrote:" As empirical generalizations borne of the observations and experiences of millions of individuals, most stereotypes are on the whole true." - Satoshi Kanazawa

Fantastic job quoting a racist to pretend that your OP is borne strictly out of facts and not racism.
InfiniX wrote:Very few talk about the police officers that were murdered in Ferguson and in Brooklyn.

Then you don't pay attention. Don't blame us for your own problems.
InfiniX wrote:Now if we look at some more actual statistics, we find that black people are more likely to kill whites than the other way around.
http://www.fathersmanifesto.net/genocide.htm

Because whites are more likely to enter black communities than the other way around (or more accurately, blacks are a much MUCH smaller percentage of people whites meet on average a day, while whites are a much larger percentage of people blacks meet on average a day). When controlled for that and the differing rates in criminal offending, it's the opposite and black-on-white murders are lower than we would expect from random chance.
InfiniX wrote:Yet, the media and race baiters always turn their heads on the true facts

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Postby Edgy Opinions » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:42 pm

Bjorden wrote:Even by you providing facts to the people, they will deny them and create a non-logical excuse to say that it is still racism.

Dude, you're a white person from Brazil. Which background do you have to say that the mainstream media there, owned by white rich people, fosters a victim mentality among African-Americans when they are already victims of violence, frisking and incarceration in obviously undue levels?
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Postby Bjorden » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:50 pm

Edgy Opinions wrote:
Bjorden wrote:Even by you providing facts to the people, they will deny them and create a non-logical excuse to say that it is still racism.

Dude, you're a white person from Brazil. Which background do you have to say that the mainstream media there, owned by white rich people, fosters a victim mentality among African-Americans when they are already victims of violence, frisking and incarceration in obviously undue levels?



>implying that I am white
>implying that the color of anyone defines if they can opiniate on something
>srsly

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Postby Edgy Opinions » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:56 pm

Bjorden wrote:
Edgy Opinions wrote:Dude, you're a white person from Brazil. Which background do you have to say that the mainstream media there, owned by white rich people, fosters a victim mentality among African-Americans when they are already victims of violence, frisking and incarceration in obviously undue levels?

>implying that I am white
>implying that the color of anyone defines if they can opiniate on something
>srsly

Sorry for assuming, then. As for your second point,

http://revistaforum.com.br/digital/174/sexo-e-negas-racismo-sexismo-e-silenciamento/

Could the average white person really have input enough to construct the opinion these people have built here?

As a white person who has always been poor, was raised in a black-majority neighborhood and who has occasionally been in faux pass in activist environments whenever race issues sprung up, I very much doubt so.

When white people decide what is better for non-white people - without experiencing what they experience -, and, on top of that, delegitimize what said non-white people say about their own issues, it is silencing. One can see it happening all the time and it's pretty poor form. All people are entitled to opinions when they're not against the rules, but some opinions are disrespectful or shitty regardless.
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Postby The United Territories of Providence » Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:11 pm

Alright let's break down why the OP is messed up.

The statistic that most black people are killed by black people seems damning....until you realize that most black people have been confined to majority black neighborhoods. You kill the people you're near, if black people lived in more ethnically diverse neighborhoods they'd had different stats. Similarly you see white white people, 83% of white murder victims were killed by white people. What you're implying is black people are inherently more violent, which simply isn't true.

The media is supposed to report on inequality in our justice system. Why is that an issue? Blacks are disproportionately arrested, convicted, and killed in this country. That's not the race card, that's the fucking fact card. Why put "bad cops" in quotes? When cops discriminates against citizens because of their race, that would by definition make them bad cops. Should we ignore the systematic racism that persists in our criminal justice system because "black people kill more black people than cops"?

If they didn't kill each other so much or resist arrest so much...

Blame the victims....classy. So Tamir Rice, the 12 year old who was shot seconds after police arrived on the scene....his death was the fault of black people?

Finally, stereotypes on the whole are true? That's just plain ignorant.

You misrepresent the facts. Your type of thinking is what sets back progress and frustrates so many minorities like myself.
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Postby The United Territories of Providence » Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:12 pm

InfiniX wrote:
Russels Orbiting Teapot wrote:
"True facts about race in America "

Right...

Most murders are interracial, because most murderers kill people they associate with for personal reasons. We live in a segregated society due to redlining and "white flight," so this should be expected.

And attempts to deny the racism of Ferguson police officers, or the way that justice was administered to milk revenue out of the black populace, is to spit in the face of reality.


Hillary Clinton wanted the Ferguson PD to release their emails, but what about her own emails?


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Postby Bjorden » Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:17 pm

Edgy Opinions wrote:
Bjorden wrote:>implying that I am white
>implying that the color of anyone defines if they can opiniate on something
>srsly

Sorry for assuming, then. As for your second point,

http://revistaforum.com.br/digital/174/sexo-e-negas-racismo-sexismo-e-silenciamento/

Could the average white person really have input enough to construct the opinion these people have built here?

As a white person who has always been poor, was raised in a black-majority neighborhood and who has occasionally been in faux pass in activist environments whenever race issues sprung up, I very much doubt so.

When white people decide what is better for non-white people - without experiencing what they experience -, and, on top of that, delegitimize what said non-white people say about their own issues, it is silencing. One can see it happening all the time and it's pretty poor form. All people are entitled to opinions when they're not against the rules, but some opinions are disrespectful or shitty regardless.


I see 90% of "Sexo e as Negas" as a bullshit full of stupid stereotypes and racism.
I agree with most of what you said, but I still dont see how people of the same color killing themselves, can be seen as a "muh white people racism", it can still be racism, but not from the ones who dont commited it.
And I also think that black people should organize themselves, and make their own independent productions and sell to the big media corporations, like TV Globo.
It also embarrass me that our society is still very racist even on this modern days, and also when almost every brazilian has african ascendancy.

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Postby Edgy Opinions » Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:19 pm

Bjorden wrote:I see 90% of "Sexo e as Negas" as a bullshit full of stupid stereotypes and racism.
I agree with most of what you said, but I still dont see how people of the same color killing themselves, can be seen as a "muh white people racism", it can still be racism, but not from the ones who dont commited it.
And I also think that black people should organize themselves, and make their own independent productions and sell to the big media corporations, like TV Globo.
It also embarrass me that our society is still very racist even on this modern days, and also when almost every brazilian has african ascendancy.

It's because I'm 99% sure the OP is a white closet racist or a white person unaware of their racism, and you agreed with their point.

I looked at his sources and his other posts. Ew.
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Postby Mavorpen » Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:19 pm

Bjorden wrote:I agree with most of what you said, but I still dont see how people of the same color killing themselves, can be seen as a "muh white people racism", it can still be racism, but not from the ones who dont commited it.

Well then that's a matter of you being ignorant of racial segregation.
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