by Kelinfort » Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:09 am
by Ostroeuropa » Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:12 am
by Kelinfort » Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:15 am
Ostroeuropa wrote:Could you elaborate on how he facilitated this rise of the religious right?
by Gauthier » Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:17 am
by Ostroeuropa » Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:17 am
Kelinfort wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:Could you elaborate on how he facilitated this rise of the religious right?
He empowered elements of the party who were much more conservative than he was on social issues. Coupled with Reagan's election and the Moral Majority, he helped the Religious Right grow in size, though this was probably not his intention.
by Zurkerx » Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:18 am
by The Liberated Territories » Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:42 am
Gauthier wrote:Barry Goldwater today would be denounced as a liberal RINO.
by Ethel mermania » Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:43 am
by The New Sea Territory » Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:08 am
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by Ethel mermania » Tue Mar 03, 2015 2:59 pm
by Geilinor » Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:35 pm
by The Liberated Territories » Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:42 pm
The New Sea Territory wrote:The Liberated Territories wrote:
Really? Goldwater was an Objectivist to some extent iirc.
That makes him more likely to be booed out of a conservative assembly. Modern American conservatism is viciously reactionary and borderline nationalistic. Barry Goldwater's "conservatism" was just neoclassical liberalism, or "libertarianism". Both the religious right and Goldwater-style right-wingers popped up around the same time, but the former is all that really remains today.
by Zakuvia » Tue Mar 03, 2015 3:58 pm
by SaintB » Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:24 pm
by The Liberated Territories » Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:33 pm
Zakuvia wrote:Honestly, when you look at the Political Map of ole Barry, he's actually a lot closer to the center than even the most 'liberal' Tea Party psychotic. Honestly Boehner is closer to a Goldwaterite than most others in the Congress.
Also, isn't it an odd sign when liberals are saying, "Gee, I wish the Reagan Revolution conservatives were running the Republicans"?
by Genivaria » Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:37 pm
The Liberated Territories wrote:Zakuvia wrote:Honestly, when you look at the Political Map of ole Barry, he's actually a lot closer to the center than even the most 'liberal' Tea Party psychotic. Honestly Boehner is closer to a Goldwaterite than most others in the Congress.
Also, isn't it an odd sign when liberals are saying, "Gee, I wish the Reagan Revolution conservatives were running the Republicans"?
The liberals must have taken the place of the Reaganites, or the Reaganites must of joined the liberals.
Also, Boehner is a terrible warhawk and security freak and shouldn't be compared to Goldwater.
by Murkwood » Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:42 pm
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Murkwood, I'm surprised you're not an anti-Semite and don't mind most LGBT rights because boy, aren't you a constellation of the worst opinions to have about everything? o_o
Benuty wrote:I suppose Ken Ham, and the league of Republican-Neocolonialist-Zionist Catholics will not be pleased.
Soldati senza confini wrote:Did I just try to rationalize Murkwood's logic? Please shoot me.
by The Liberated Territories » Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:45 pm
Murkwood wrote:I'm glad the Goldwater wing was diminished. He was Libertarian, plain and simple. Ugh.
by Murkwood » Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:47 pm
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Murkwood, I'm surprised you're not an anti-Semite and don't mind most LGBT rights because boy, aren't you a constellation of the worst opinions to have about everything? o_o
Benuty wrote:I suppose Ken Ham, and the league of Republican-Neocolonialist-Zionist Catholics will not be pleased.
Soldati senza confini wrote:Did I just try to rationalize Murkwood's logic? Please shoot me.
by Geilinor » Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:50 pm
Murkwood wrote:The Liberated Territories wrote:
Ugh. Yeah, I know. I'd much rather have the Ban Gays and Creationism crowd in rather than people who want to balance the budget and give people their rights. /sarcasm
Ugh. Yeah, I know. I'd much rather have the Ban the Military and Legalize Child Labor folks instead of traditional Americans. /s
by The Liberated Territories » Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:50 pm
Murkwood wrote:The Liberated Territories wrote:
Ugh. Yeah, I know. I'd much rather have the Ban Gays and Creationism crowd in rather than people who want to balance the budget and give people their rights. /sarcasm
Ugh. Yeah, I know. I'd much rather have the Ban the Military and Legalize Child Labor folks instead of traditional Americans. /s
by Murkwood » Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:55 pm
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Murkwood, I'm surprised you're not an anti-Semite and don't mind most LGBT rights because boy, aren't you a constellation of the worst opinions to have about everything? o_o
Benuty wrote:I suppose Ken Ham, and the league of Republican-Neocolonialist-Zionist Catholics will not be pleased.
Soldati senza confini wrote:Did I just try to rationalize Murkwood's logic? Please shoot me.
by Murkwood » Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:55 pm
The Liberated Territories wrote:Murkwood wrote:Ugh. Yeah, I know. I'd much rather have the Ban the Military and Legalize Child Labor folks instead of traditional Americans. /s
You mean the traditional Americans who had just that for 100 years and prospered because of it? (Child labor can be argued today but it was necessary for many families to make a profit earlier on)
Oh dear sorry I forgot that traditional conservatives were bible thumping state capitalist neonazis.
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Murkwood, I'm surprised you're not an anti-Semite and don't mind most LGBT rights because boy, aren't you a constellation of the worst opinions to have about everything? o_o
Benuty wrote:I suppose Ken Ham, and the league of Republican-Neocolonialist-Zionist Catholics will not be pleased.
Soldati senza confini wrote:Did I just try to rationalize Murkwood's logic? Please shoot me.
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