by Sheltton » Sat Feb 28, 2015 12:09 pm
by Cyrisnia » Sat Feb 28, 2015 12:23 pm
Sheltton wrote:I'm pro amnesty on the U.S. Mexican border. What get's me is the fact that ones say 'they don't deserve to be here' (quote from Bill O'reilley), while the Statue of Liberty inscription reads : Give me your tired, your poor/Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.
by Second Blazing » Sat Feb 28, 2015 12:24 pm
Sheltton wrote:I'm pro amnesty on the U.S. Mexican border. What get's me is the fact that ones say 'they don't deserve to be here' (quote from Bill O'reilley), while the Statue of Liberty inscription reads : Give me your tired, your poor/Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.
by United Russian Soviet States » Sat Feb 28, 2015 12:28 pm
by Aelex » Sat Feb 28, 2015 12:29 pm
Sheltton wrote:I'm pro amnesty on the U.S. Mexican border. What get's me is the fact that ones say 'they don't deserve to be here' (quote from Bill O'reilley), while the Statue of Liberty inscription reads : Give me your tired, your poor/Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.
by Ashmoria » Sat Feb 28, 2015 12:31 pm
by Sebastianbourg » Sat Feb 28, 2015 12:31 pm
Aelex wrote:Sheltton wrote:I'm pro amnesty on the U.S. Mexican border. What get's me is the fact that ones say 'they don't deserve to be here' (quote from Bill O'reilley), while the Statue of Liberty inscription reads : Give me your tired, your poor/Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.
Yep, I like how the only monument of significant importance you have has been made by France...
Still, I don't see why you shouldn't let immigrant come. After all, it was their land before...
by Sebastianbourg » Sat Feb 28, 2015 12:33 pm
by Boineburg » Sat Feb 28, 2015 12:36 pm
Sebastianbourg wrote:
It was the immigrant's land? I'm quite certain an immigrant from...um, Tajikistan, would have no link whatsoever the indigenous peoples of the Americas.
by Cetatsenia » Sat Feb 28, 2015 12:49 pm
Aelex wrote:Sheltton wrote:I'm pro amnesty on the U.S. Mexican border. What get's me is the fact that ones say 'they don't deserve to be here' (quote from Bill O'reilley), while the Statue of Liberty inscription reads : Give me your tired, your poor/Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.
Yep, I like how the only monument of significant importance you have has been made by France...
Still, I don't see why you shouldn't let immigrant come. After all, it was their land before...
by Conserative Morality » Sat Feb 28, 2015 12:53 pm
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
by Aelex » Sat Feb 28, 2015 12:58 pm
Cetatsenia wrote:It was their land a few decades shy of 2 centuries ago. So that fact is kind of irrelevant now; it's America now. I have nothing against immigrants, but they should actually become citizens if they want to live in the country.
And also, what's your definition of 'significant importance' for monuments? Because there's plenty of monuments in the US.
by Conserative Morality » Sat Feb 28, 2015 12:59 pm
Aelex wrote:Not really.
Still, apart from the Statue de la Liberté and the Rushmore, can you give me another Great American Monument?
by The United Territories of Providence » Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:00 pm
by Conserative Morality » Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:05 pm
The United Territories of Providence wrote:This was a bad OP.
I'm pro-fixing our current immigration system, b/c currently it's more of a 5-year lottery than immigration system. Amnesty isn't the answer, >11,000,000 new citizens? That's just not practical.
Also, okay the statue of liberty says we welcome all immigrants....our money says "In god we trust"....So? Just because our money has "God" doesn't mean we aren't a secular nation, and just because a 100 year old monument promotes an open door policy doesn't mean we should.
George Washington wrote:The bosom of America is open to receive not only the Opulent and respectable Stranger, but the oppressed and persecuted of all Nations and Religions; whom we shall welcome to a participation of all our rights and privileges, if by decency and propriety of conduct they appear to merit the enjoyment
by The United Territories of Providence » Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:10 pm
Aelex wrote:Cetatsenia wrote:It was their land a few decades shy of 2 centuries ago. So that fact is kind of irrelevant now; it's America now. I have nothing against immigrants, but they should actually become citizens if they want to live in the country.
And also, what's your definition of 'significant importance' for monuments? Because there's plenty of monuments in the US.
Not really.
Still, apart from the Statue de la Liberté and the Rushmore, can you give me another Great American Monument?
by Valkalan » Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:16 pm
by Diopolis » Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:19 pm
by Atlanticatia » Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:21 pm
by Aelex » Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:27 pm
The United Territories of Providence wrote:
The Washington Monument
The Lincoln Memorial
The White House
The Gateway Arch
Plymouth Rock
Independence Park
The Marine Corps War Memorial
We forgive your limited knowledge of our country, but when you try to interject in our domestic policy....some understanding of our culture our laws might be useful.
by Ethel mermania » Sat Feb 28, 2015 1:43 pm
by Kumuri » Sat Feb 28, 2015 2:13 pm
Second Blazing wrote:Sheltton wrote:I'm pro amnesty on the U.S. Mexican border. What get's me is the fact that ones say 'they don't deserve to be here' (quote from Bill O'reilley), while the Statue of Liberty inscription reads : Give me your tired, your poor/Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.
That was a 100 years ago when we needed enough people out west to drive out the Indians. Times have changed, we're getting overcrowded as it is.
by Olivaero » Sat Feb 28, 2015 2:27 pm
Second Blazing wrote:Sheltton wrote:I'm pro amnesty on the U.S. Mexican border. What get's me is the fact that ones say 'they don't deserve to be here' (quote from Bill O'reilley), while the Statue of Liberty inscription reads : Give me your tired, your poor/Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.
That was a 100 years ago when we needed enough people out west to drive out the Indians. Times have changed, we're getting overcrowded as it is.
by The United Territories of Providence » Sat Feb 28, 2015 2:44 pm
Aelex wrote:The United Territories of Providence wrote:
The Washington Monument
The Lincoln Memorial
The White House
The Gateway Arch
Plymouth Rock
Independence Park
The Marine Corps War Memorial
We forgive your limited knowledge of our country, but when you try to interject in our domestic policy....some understanding of our culture our laws might be useful.
Culture...
Still, you should just soften your laws a little and let more people come, thus, by controlling it, you'll stem the flow of migrant more effectively than by just saying "don't come in my country"...
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