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Koch Brothers Plan to Spend $900 million in 2016

Postby Atlanticatia » Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:41 pm

The political network overseen by the conservative billionaires Charles G. and David H. Koch plans to spend close to $900 million on the 2016 campaign, an unparalleled effort by coordinated outside groups to shape a presidential election that is already on track to be the most expensive in history.

The spending goal, revealed Monday at the Kochs’ annual winter donor retreat near Palm Springs, Calif., would allow their political organization to operate at the same financial scale as the Democratic and Republican Parties. It would require a significant financial commitment from the Kochs and roughly 300 other donors they have recruited over the years, and covers both the presidential and congressional races. In the last presidential election, the Republican National Committee and the party’s two congressional campaign committees spent a total of $657 million.

Hundreds of conservative donors recruited by the Kochs gathered over the weekend for three days of issue seminars, strategy sessions and mingling with rising elected officials. These donors represent the largest concentration of political money outside the party establishment, one that has achieved enormous power in Republican circles in recent years.

Now the Kochs’ network will embark on its largest drive ever to influence legislation and campaigns across the country, leveraging Republican control of Congress and the party’s dominance of state capitols to push for deregulation, tax cuts and smaller government. In 2012, the Kochs’ network spent just under $400 million, an astonishing sum at the time. The $889 million spending goal for 2016 would put it on track to spend nearly as much as the campaigns of each party’s presidential nominee.

The Kochs’ efforts will put enormous fund-raising pressure on Democrats and liberal outside groups. Allies of Hillary Rodham Clinton, who appears to be preparing for a likely presidential campaign in 2016, expect that she will need to bring in more money than President Obama, the most successful fund-raiser in presidential history, and a “super PAC” supporting her is seeking to raise as much as $300 million in the coming months.

“It’s no wonder the candidates show up when the Koch brothers call,” said David Axelrod, a former senior adviser to Mr. Obama. “That’s exponentially more money than any party organization will spend. In many ways, they have superseded the party.”

The group’s budget, disclosed by a conference attendee, reflects the rising ambition and expanded reach of the Koch operation, which has sought to distinguish itself from other outside groups by emphasizing the role of donors over consultants and political operatives.

While the Koch’s expansive network houses groups with discretely political functions — a data and analytics firm, a state-focused issue-advocacy group and affinity groups aimed at young voters and Hispanics — it also includes groups like Freedom Partners, a trade organization overseen by Koch advisers that plans the retreat and helps corral contributions; Americans for Prosperity, a national grass-roots group; and Concerned Veterans for America, which organizes conservative veterans

While almost no Republican Party leaders were invited to the Koch event, it has become a coveted invitation for the party’s rising stars, for whom the gathered billionaires and multimillionaires are a potential source of financing for campaigns and super PACs. Officials said this year’s conference was the largest ever.

At least five potential presidential candidates were invited this year, and four attended, including Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin. On Sunday evening, three of them — Senators Marco Rubio of Florida, Rand Paul of Kentucky and Ted Cruz of Texas — took part in a candidate forum on economic issues.

The Kochs are longtime opponents of campaign disclosure laws. Unlike the parties, their network is constructed chiefly of nonprofit groups that are not required to reveal donors. That makes it almost impossible to tell how much of the money is provided by the Kochs — among the wealthiest men in the country — and how much by other donors.

The two brothers and their aides have begun to take steps to relax the strict secrecy that has long surrounded much of their political efforts. After spending the 2012 campaign as the Democrats’ favored punching bags, Charles and David Koch have each granted a series of interviews to explain their views and philosophy. Their privately held firm, Koch Industries, has mounted a soft-focus advertising campaign called “We Are Koch,” featuring the company’s employees.

Last summer, Freedom Partners established the network’s first super PAC, allowing it to run more openly political advertising in the run-up to the 2014 midterm election. The move also required disclosing some of the network’s other donors. Trusts controlled by the Kochs provided about $4 million of the super PAC’s $25 million budget.

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This year, Koch aides also provided — for the first time — limited access to the winter conference events and allowed reporters to view live video of the candidate forum on Sunday night.

As the three senators addressed the audience of rich donors — effectively an audition for the 2016 primary — they dismissed a question about whether the wealthy had too much influence in politics. At times they seemed to be addressing an audience of two: the Kochs themselves, now among the country’s most influential conservative power brokers.

Mr. Cruz gave an impassioned defense of his hosts as job creators and the victims of unfair attacks by Democrats, while Mr. Rubio suggested that only liberals supported campaign finance restrictions, so as to empower what he said were their allies in Hollywood and the news media.


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/27/us/po ... paign.html

So, the Koch Brothers are planning to spend nearly $900 million in 2016, more than the Presidential campaigns themselves are spending. This is an unprecedented amount, up from the $400 million that was seemingly unbelievable.

This is just disgusting, and undemocratic. No billionaire should be able to influence politics to this extent - this goes beyond special interests and big donations; it's the foundation of corporatocracy. Citizens United needs to be reversed. I usually try to avoid talking about the Koch brothers because they're usually targeted in partisan attacks, but this deserves mention. I have to say, Nancy Pelosi is right when she says some people have a 'Koch Problem'. I mean, what's next? $1 billion? $2 billion? And this isn't just talking about the Koch brothers - it's all big donors. Nor is it just about the Republican Party - Democrats are guilty of pandering to big donors, too.

I think that we need to publicly finance more elections, combined with small private donations. (An interesting system I saw proposed was where citizens would be able to donate, say, $100, and public funding would match those small private donations 6-to-1. So a $100 private donation from an ordinary person would net the campaign $700 in funds. It's the only way to combat the funds held by people like the Koch brothers.) We need strict campaign finance laws, and we need to overturn Citizens United. Money is not, and will never be, speech. Corporations, as far as political donations go, are not people. I think that sensible regulations and more public finances can ensure both citizens, business, and other groups all get a fair say in politics, without one group controlling everything.


So, what does NS think about this? Is money 'speech'? Should we publicly finance more elections? Are the Koch brothers really worth talking about?
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Postby MERIZoC » Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:42 pm

Jesus fucking Christ. What a colossal waste.

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Postby Murkwood » Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:43 pm

There should be no limit. It's their money, let them use it as they see fit. When Soros does this, I don't care.
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Postby Lykens » Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:43 pm

Seems like American Democracy is slowly evolving into a high stakes auction.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:45 pm

This is nothing more than legalized bribery.

This has got to end. Corporations shouldn't be allowed to influence politics to this extent. It defeats the purpose of our democracy.

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Postby Atlanticatia » Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:46 pm

Murkwood wrote:There should be no limit. It's their money, let them use it as they see fit. When Soros does this, I don't care.


You can oppose the Koch Brothers without supporting Soros. I don't support anyone being able to spend huge amounts of money, that is enough to give them a significantly larger voice in politics than someone else.

(However, for the record Soros, and other 'liberal' donors, spend smidgens compared to the Koch brothers' web of spending. Doesn't justify it, but comparing the two is not fair comparison at all.)
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Postby Scomagia » Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:48 pm

Legalized bribery.

What a fucking degenerate culture we live in.
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Postby Romalae » Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:49 pm

This is really the issue above all other issues, because it causes our politicians to support their donors first and foremost, and not their constituents. It's one of the most depressing things about the state of our current political system.
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Postby Benuty » Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:49 pm

Scomagia wrote:Legalized bribery.

What a fucking degenerate culture we live in.

Atleast the Romans didn't delude themselves once the Republic began to die (sans the ones who assassinated Caesar).
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Postby Scomagia » Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:50 pm

Lykens wrote:Seems like American Democracy is slowly evolving into a high stakes auction.

Slowly? We're already there bud.
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Postby Geilinor » Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:51 pm

That's 5% of the entire US economy. What?
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Benuty wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Legalized bribery.

What a fucking degenerate culture we live in.

Atleast the Romans didn't delude themselves once the Republic began to die (sans the ones who assassinated Caesar).

We aren't even 10 posts in and we have a reference to the fall of the Republic. That was fast. How long until the Koch brothers are compared to 1930s German Industrialists?
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Postby Kelmet » Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:51 pm

That is what is classified as a metric shit ton of money.
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Scomagia wrote:
Lykens wrote:Seems like American Democracy is slowly evolving into a high stakes auction.

Slowly? We're already there bud.

Well. The debates haven't gotten to auctioneer speed yet.
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Kelmet wrote:That is what is classified as a metric shit ton of money.

Several, I'd imagine.

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Geilinor wrote:That's 5% of the entire US economy. What?

You need to redo the math there.
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Postby Aeken » Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:53 pm

Fuck this shit.

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The solution: Republican candidates should refuse some of the money.
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Lykens wrote:
Scomagia wrote:Slowly? We're already there bud.

Well. The debates haven't gotten to auctioneer speed yet.

That's true, I guess.

Though the debates have restricted those not being bribed for quite some time now.
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Postby Great Franconia and Verana » Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:54 pm

Murkwood wrote:There should be no limit. It's their money, let them use it as they see fit. When Soros does this, I don't care.

And make democracy a bidding war? Oh yeah, seems like its a great way to run an election.

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Postby Independent Republic of Not My Problem » Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:54 pm

They can do what they want with their money. I really don't care. I know who I will vote for and why.

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Scomagia wrote:
Geilinor wrote:That's 5% of the entire US economy. What?

You need to redo the math there.

Yeah, I know. Shit.
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Murkwood wrote:
Benuty wrote:Atleast the Romans didn't delude themselves once the Republic began to die (sans the ones who assassinated Caesar).

We aren't even 10 posts in and we have a reference to the fall of the Republic. That was fast. How long until the Koch brothers are compared to 1930s German Industrialists?

It was never really a republic to begin with.

Hell it practically molded itself from the elector families who had vested interests in keeping alliances with the King of Rome. In every sense it was an oligarchy with just a little more sprinkling of variety on it than other oligarchies.
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Postby Scomagia » Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:55 pm

Independent Republic of Not My Problem wrote:They can do what they want with their money. I really don't care. I know who I will vote for and why.

So bribery isn't an issue, for you?
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