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Postby Benuty » Tue Jan 20, 2015 1:57 pm

No charges for man who shot police chief in Oklahoma

By Michele Richinick
An Oklahoma homeowner who allegedly shot his town’s police chief was released from custody on the same day of the incident without facing charges, according to state authorities. Officials said they believe the suspect didn’t realize police had broken down his front door and were inside his home when they raided it in response to an apparent bomb threat.

Sentinel, Oklahoma Police Chief Louis Ross and sheriff’s deputies entered the suspect’s home early last Thursday morning after an emergency caller alerted police to a bomb threat at a nearby school that they thought originated from the man’s residence. Law enforcement authorities didn’t release the man’s name, but Sentinel Mayor Sam Dlugonski and a neighbor identified him as Dallas Horton.

At around 6 a.m. local time, Horton allegedly shot Ross “several times in the chest” and arm, according to a press release from the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation (OSBI). Moments before the incident, one of the deputies had loaned a bulletproof vest to Ross, which authorities said saved the police chief’s life. Ross was later treated and released from a local hospital.

Horton allegedly shot multiple rounds before he surrendered to the officers. Horton’s wife was reportedly home at the time.

Signs on either side of Horton’s front door referred to zombies, according to The Oklahoman. One read: “Certified zombie killer.” Another said: “Warning: zombies inside enter at your own risk.” The mayor, who told local media he knew Horton, described Horton as a “gun enthusiast” and “survivalist.”

A dispatcher responded to a 911 call placed around 4 a.m. local time on Thursday. The caller said a bomb had been placed at the community center. Ross and the deputies searched Horton’s home, where authorities believed the call originated. Members of a bomb squad simultaneously checked for an explosive device at the building.

After the raid, agents with OSBI briefly detained and questioned Horton. They said they didn’t have enough evidence to arrest Horton.

“Facts surrounding the case [led] agents to believe the man was unaware it was officers who made entry,” the OSBI said in a news release posted on Facebook.

Authorities later discovered the bomb threat didn’t come from Horton’s home. OSBI didn’t immediately respond to msnbc’s request for comment on Monday. Agents seized multiple firearms from Horton’s home, but no explosives were found, The Oklahoman reported.


Source: http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/no-charges-m ... f-oklahoma

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Well this is an interesting one given there is no real loser here (yet). The bomb threat was bullshit, and they went into the wrong house. The owner a gun collector rightly assumed people were coming into the house...yet wrongly assumed just who it was. This of-course resulted in the homeowner firing on the first person they saw. Thankfully no one is dead (yet), and the homeowner is not charged. So right now its kind of in limbo, of-course they could have at least got the right house even if the damn threat was false. So what say you oh NSG's unleavened, and leavened masses?

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Postby Atomic Energy » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:00 pm

If someone was breaking in to my home and I had a gun handy, there's no doubt I'd shoot first and ask questions later. The police are clearly at fault, invading a private residence is inexcusable, I see no mention anywhere of a court order.
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Postby Benuty » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:01 pm

Atomic Energy wrote:If someone was breaking in to my home and I had a gun handy, there's no doubt I'd shoot first and ask questions later. The police are clearly at fault, invading a private residence is inexcusable, I see no mention anywhere of a court order.

Well it was a no knock raid.
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Postby Nuwe Suid Afrika » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:02 pm

He really didn't do anything wrong, but he should be getting charged for the officers medical bills, if there are any.


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Postby Atomic Energy » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:04 pm

Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:He really didn't do anything wrong, but he should be getting charged for the officers medical bills, if there are any.

Why should he pay their medical bills? The city should pay, they were dumb enough to send them in.
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Postby WestRedMaple » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:05 pm

Nothing in the article seems to indicate that the person broke any laws, so clearly releasing them is the logical course of action.

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Postby The Conez Imperium » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:06 pm

Atomic Energy wrote:
Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:He really didn't do anything wrong, but he should be getting charged for the officers medical bills, if there are any.

Why should he pay their medical bills? The city should pay, they were dumb enough to send them in.


Its a bomb threat...

*knock knock*
"Sorry Mr. Terrorist, we have a warrant from the court to check your house for explosives. Could you please open the door as we knock. Oh and don't use the time to grab a weapon or destroy the evidence"
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Postby SuperFruitland » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:07 pm

WestRedMaple wrote:Nothing in the article seems to indicate that the person broke any laws, so clearly releasing them is the logical course of action.


So shooting a policeman is legal now?

Okay then.

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Postby The Conez Imperium » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:07 pm

Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:He really didn't do anything wrong, but he should be getting charged for the officers medical bills, if there are any.


For once I agree, just pay the medical bills and no more bad blood.
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Postby Atomic Energy » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:08 pm

SuperFruitLand wrote:
WestRedMaple wrote:Nothing in the article seems to indicate that the person broke any laws, so clearly releasing them is the logical course of action.


So shooting a policeman is legal now?

Okay then.

There was no indication it was a policeman in his house, to him it was just someone who broke in and was trying to steal from him.
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Postby Second Blazing » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:09 pm

Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:He really didn't do anything wrong, but he should be getting charged for the officers medical bills, if there are any.


What in the hell for?
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Postby Atomic Energy » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:09 pm

Second Blazing wrote:
Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:He really didn't do anything wrong, but he should be getting charged for the officers medical bills, if there are any.


What in the hell for?

Hear, hear.
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Postby The Lotophagi » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:10 pm

The Conez Imperium wrote:
Atomic Energy wrote:Why should he pay their medical bills? The city should pay, they were dumb enough to send them in.


Its a bomb threat...

*knock knock*
"Sorry Mr. Terrorist, we have a warrant from the court to check your house for explosives. Could you please open the door as we knock. Oh and don't use the time to grab a weapon or destroy the evidence"


The sticky bit here is that the police traced the phone call made to the wrong house. The homeowner in question had absolutely nothing to do with the case, and just reacted to the potential threat of armed men breaking down his door. That's why they released him - there was no evidence linking him to the bomb threat, and state laws indicate that the homeowner had a right to defend himself from perceived threats, particularly since the police never identified themselves specifically as such.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:11 pm

Dallas Horton is white.

Calling it now.
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Postby Second Blazing » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:12 pm

SuperFruitLand wrote:
WestRedMaple wrote:Nothing in the article seems to indicate that the person broke any laws, so clearly releasing them is the logical course of action.


So shooting a policeman is legal now?

Okay then.


When they break down your door for bogus reasons, yes. Someone breaks into your house, you shoot them.
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Postby The Lotophagi » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:12 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:Dallas Horton is white.

Calling it now.


Signs on either side of Horton’s front door referred to zombies, according to The Oklahoman. One read: “Certified zombie killer.” Another said: “Warning: zombies inside enter at your own risk.” The mayor, who told local media he knew Horton, described Horton as a “gun enthusiast” and “survivalist.”


Yep, that's pretty much a given.

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Postby The Conez Imperium » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:13 pm

The Lotophagi wrote:
The Conez Imperium wrote:
Its a bomb threat...

*knock knock*
"Sorry Mr. Terrorist, we have a warrant from the court to check your house for explosives. Could you please open the door as we knock. Oh and don't use the time to grab a weapon or destroy the evidence"


The sticky bit here is that the police traced the phone call made to the wrong house. The homeowner in question had absolutely nothing to do with the case, and just reacted to the potential threat of armed men breaking down his door. That's why they released him - there was no evidence linking him to the bomb threat.


Well no one did anything wrong.

The police were doing their job investigating a possible bomb scare
The homeowner was just defending his property with a gun

I was arguing about this specific part. they were dumb enough to send them in.
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Postby Val Halla » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:17 pm

This chap needs to learn zombies don't knock.
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Postby The Lotophagi » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:22 pm

The Conez Imperium wrote:
The Lotophagi wrote:
The sticky bit here is that the police traced the phone call made to the wrong house. The homeowner in question had absolutely nothing to do with the case, and just reacted to the potential threat of armed men breaking down his door. That's why they released him - there was no evidence linking him to the bomb threat.


Well no one did anything wrong.

The police were doing their job investigating a possible bomb scare
The homeowner was just defending his property with a gun

I was arguing about this specific part. they were dumb enough to send them in.


Well, I would argue that in a case where just a bomb threat was issued that charging into the home guns blazing was probably an overreaction. There's room for an intermediate approach between a SWAT team and the friendly neighbourhood officer knocking on the door that would have saved life and limb on both sides of the engagement. Doubly so considering the homeowner involved advertised the fact that he had guns on the premises and would use them right on his front door - charging in like that puts everyone in danger.

I mean, what if the police involved had ended up shooting the homeowner for firing on the police chief? You'd have one critically-injured police chief, one dead innocent person who did nothing illegal under the state's 'stand your ground' laws and the looming fact that anyone could have their home subject to invasion by police just for having the misfortune to have shown up in a database or associated with a phone call.

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Postby The Conez Imperium » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:30 pm

The Lotophagi wrote:
The Conez Imperium wrote:
Well no one did anything wrong.

The police were doing their job investigating a possible bomb scare
The homeowner was just defending his property with a gun

I was arguing about this specific part. they were dumb enough to send them in.


Well, I would argue that in a case where just a bomb threat was issued that charging into the home guns blazing was probably an overreaction. There's room for an intermediate approach between a SWAT team and the friendly neighbourhood officer knocking on the door that would have saved life and limb on both sides of the engagement. Doubly so considering the homeowner involved advertised the fact that he had guns on the premises and would use them right on his front door - charging in like that puts everyone in danger.

I mean, what if the police involved had ended up shooting the homeowner for firing on the police chief? You'd have one critically-injured police chief, one dead innocent person who did nothing illegal under the state's 'stand your ground' laws and the looming fact that anyone could have their home subject to invasion by police just for having the misfortune to have shown up in a database or associated with a phone call.


It was the friendly neighborhood police office most likely conducting a no knock warrant. I can't see any other way to conduct a "no knock warrant" on a potential bomb scare.
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Postby Blasted Craigs » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:33 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:Dallas Horton is white.

Calling it now.

Actually, not quite. Close, but you missed the really important bit.
He was described as a "gun enthusiast".
Translation....he was a White Christian Conservative.
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Postby Tyrinth » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:33 pm

A no-knock raid on the incorrect house is inexcusable. That's all I'll say here.
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Postby Nuwe Suid Afrika » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:34 pm

Atomic Energy wrote:
Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:He really didn't do anything wrong, but he should be getting charged for the officers medical bills, if there are any.

Why should he pay their medical bills? The city should pay, they were dumb enough to send them in.


It was a misunderstanding. You ask questions then you shoot, you don't have the right to just shoot to kill in the United States, contrary to popular belief.

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Nuwe Suid Afrika wrote:He really didn't do anything wrong, but he should be getting charged for the officers medical bills, if there are any.


For once I agree, just pay the medical bills and no more bad blood.


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Postby Scomagia » Tue Jan 20, 2015 2:38 pm

That's what you get for no-knock raids.
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