Should muslims be treated equally?

[Burleson 2]

PITTSBURGH—Explaining how defending the population is the government’s ultimate responsibility, area man Greg Farnsworth told reporters Thursday he is willing to give up any of Muslims’ rights necessary to feel safe. “The bottom line is that we are putting innocent lives at risk if we don’t give the government more power to protect us, and if that means giving up a few constitutionally protected freedoms of Muslims in the process, so be it,” said Farnsworth, who added that, while he didn't necessarily like the idea of the NSA monitoring phone calls or emails, he believed it was vital to accept a few violations of privacy rights among those of the Islamic faith to ensure the nation remained secure. “If last week’s attacks taught us anything, it’s that al-Qaeda is still determined to kill as many people as they can. So if we have to add more security measures at airports for Muslims or track people online who are critical of the U.S. government, provided they are Muslim, in order to keep us safe, I'm willing to make that sacrifice.” Farnsworth added that, if you really considered the lives and well-being of your family, limiting a few rights for Muslims here and there isn't a bad trade-off at all.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-m ... hts,37780/

Even though the article is from the Onion, and obviously just satire, there's still a good amount of truth in it. All the recent terrorist attacks could have been prevented if muslims didn't have the same freedoms as other people. This may not be politically correct, but security should come long before political correctness. For example, measures to prevent muslims from owning firearms could have potentially prevented the Charlie Hebdo attack, and investigating muslims further before boarding flights (or just not allowing them on in the first place), could have prevented 9/11. Non-muslims are being needlessly subjected to excessive security measures because of the actions of muslims, which I find ridiculous. Of course, basic security measures should be taken for everyone, but let's face it, muslims are more likely to commit terrorist attacks.

So NSG, your opinion?

[Revanchism]

"muslims are more likely to commit terrorist attacks"
And yet the majority of terrorist attacks on American soil have been committed by Christians.
Perhaps, then, we should seek to restrict the rights of Christians to preserve the safety of the American people.

[The Sotoan Union]

All Muslims participated in those terrorist attacks? Or a few extreme ones did? Why are we punishing the many because of the actions of a few, or pretending that all Muslims are one group who all think the same? I can't think of a good reason why anyone would think that other than racism.

[Scomagia]

Liberty comes before security. To act otherwise is a flagrant betrayal of the founding principles of our nation.

[Burleson 2]

All Muslims participated in those terrorist attacks? Or a few extreme ones did? Why are we punishing the many because of the actions of a few, or pretending that all Muslims are one group who all think the same? I can't think of a good reason why anyone would think that other than racism.

Islam isn't a race, it's a religion.

[Liberty and Linguistics]

Is this really horrible satire? Not only did you use The Onion to help your shitty excuse for an argument, but you're advocating for something terrible. Burleson, you cannot in any way, call yourself a supporter of freedom of religion. You've done it before, and it's highly hypocritical. You also cannot call yourself a supporter of freedom in any sense.

Lastly, your ideas are not only highly unfair and horrible, but they go against the Constitution of the United States of America, and give a giant middle finger to the founding fathers of the nation. The founding fathers wanted liberty and freedom for all, and you're shitting on that idea.

[Anollasia]

Being Muslim (though mainly nominal), I'm offended.

[Dracoria]

Turning Muslims into true second-class citizens (or even total noncitizens) is likely to just breed further discontent and even more terrorist attacks.

[Burleson 2]

Is this really horrible satire? Not only did you use The Onion to help your shitty excuse for an argument, but you're advocating for something terrible. Burleson, you cannot in any way, call yourself a supporter of freedom of religion. You've done it before, and it's highly hypocritical. You also cannot call yourself a supporter of freedom in any sense.

I support freedom to be Christian. I never claimed to like the idea of having freedom to be a non-Christian.

[The Sotoan Union]

All Muslims participated in those terrorist attacks? Or a few extreme ones did? Why are we punishing the many because of the actions of a few, or pretending that all Muslims are one group who all think the same? I can't think of a good reason why anyone would think that other than racism.

Islam isn't a race, it's a religion.

Many Muslims are of similar ethnic decent, and thus many people do express racism when criticizing them. Especially people who pretend they are all the same.

You are kind of hurting your argument here. If Muslims are very ethnically diverse, it makes even less sense to lop them into one group.

[Breko]

"muslims are more likely to commit terrorist attacks"
And yet the majority of terrorist attacks on American soil have been committed by Christians.
Perhaps, then, we should seek to restrict the rights of Christians to preserve the safety of the American people.

Right, because looking at this from an American perspective and not a global one when talking about a global issue totally works.

[Liberty and Linguistics]

Is this really horrible satire? Not only did you use The Onion to help your shitty excuse for an argument, but you're advocating for something terrible. Burleson, you cannot in any way, call yourself a supporter of freedom of religion. You've done it before, and it's highly hypocritical. You also cannot call yourself a supporter of freedom in any sense.

I support freedom to be Christian. I never claimed to like the idea of having freedom to be a non-Christian.

That's not freedom. That's theocratic authoritarianism. Why should we force people to be Christian if they don't want to be Christian? Are Hindus, Muslims, and Jews harming people by practicing their faith?

[Czechostan]

Isn't the answer obvious?

[Lost heros]

Yes. Why is this even a question?

[Burleson 2]

Being Muslim (though mainly nominal), I'm offended.

Well, 9/11 offended me.

[Scomagia]

Islam isn't a race, it's a religion.

Many Muslims are of similar ethnic decent, and thus many people do express racism when criticizing them. Especially people who pretend they are all the same.

You are kind of hurting your argument here. If Muslims are very ethnically diverse, it makes even less sense to lop them into one group.

I'd like to point out that Ethnicity and Race are different things.

[Nuwe Suid Afrika]

They should (in most parts of the world). If they're in France as of right now, they should be receiving extensive monitoring.

[Revanchism]

"muslims are more likely to commit terrorist attacks"
And yet the majority of terrorist attacks on American soil have been committed by Christians.
Perhaps, then, we should seek to restrict the rights of Christians to preserve the safety of the American people.

Right, because looking at this from an American perspective and not a global one when talking about a global issue totally works.

>american satirical newspaper
>article explicitly takes place in america
>american OP speaking from american perspective
Forgive me father for I have sinned :'-(

[Scomagia]

Being Muslim (though mainly nominal), I'm offended.

Well, 9/11 offended me.

Tough shit. People need to get the fuck over it. More people have died from the Flu since then.

[Liberty and Linguistics]

Being Muslim (though mainly nominal), I'm offended.

Well, 9/11 offended me.

9/11 is not an excuse to hate the Islamic faith. Do you seriously believe that most Muslims agree with Al-Qaeda? Fuck no.

[Revanchism]

Is this really horrible satire? Not only did you use The Onion to help your shitty excuse for an argument, but you're advocating for something terrible. Burleson, you cannot in any way, call yourself a supporter of freedom of religion. You've done it before, and it's highly hypocritical. You also cannot call yourself a supporter of freedom in any sense.

I support freedom to be Christian. I never claimed to like the idea of having freedom to be a non-Christian.

Good to know that you hate America.

[Burleson 2]

Islam isn't a race, it's a religion.

Many Muslims are of similar ethnic decent, and thus many people do express racism when criticizing them. Especially people who pretend they are all the same.

You are kind of hurting your argument here. If Muslims are very ethnically diverse, it makes even less sense to lop them into one group.

There are arab muslims, black muslims, white muslims, Asian muslims. Calling islam a race is no more valid than calling atheism a race.

[Burleson 2]

I support freedom to be Christian. I never claimed to like the idea of having freedom to be a non-Christian.

Good to know that you hate America.

Nice strawman there...

[Liberty and Linguistics]

They should (in most parts of the world). If they're in France as of right now, they should be receiving extensive monitoring.

Perhaps we should just monitor people who profess extremism that could harm France. Ergo, we shouldn't monitor all Muslims, since the vast majority don't profess extremism that could harm France.

[The Lotophagi]

Good idea. We should also definitely ban white people from having more than $50 000 in net income or holdings, since the vast majority of financial crimes are carried out by white people. It's only fair, after all.