The AnyDialect(TM) Classical Language Thread

[Themiclesia]

For perhaps the better part of this millennium mastery of the classical languages (usually defined as Greek and Latin) has been taken as one of the foundations of education; (un)fortunately, this tradition, however powerful, has faded in most parts of Western Europe and the Americas. This thread, in continuation and observance of that enterprising spirit to re-create a common tongue for intellectual discourse and expression, is devoted and dedicated to those languages. Discussions in and regarding those languages are the principal raison d'être of this thread, but other tangents are welcome.

χαίρετε, ὦ ἅπαντες φίλοι μαθηταὶ τῶν γλώττων· ἐν τῷδε τῷ τόπῳ εἴπωμεν περὶ αὐτῶν.

Edit: conversations in this thread should be in either AnyDialect ^TM Greek or Latin.

[Portomellow]

I don't lose too much sleep over the loss of an expectation of classical language knowledge to demonstrate education.

[Themiclesia]

I don't lose too much sleep over the loss of an expectation of classical language knowledge to demonstrate education.

τὰ γράματα λεκτέα ἐστὶ κατὰ τὴν τῶν Ἑλλήνων γλῶτταν.

[Zakuvia]

I don't lose too much sleep over the loss of an expectation of classical language knowledge to demonstrate education.

Agreed. Linguistics is frankly a hobby. Mathematics and the practical sciences are more telling of an impressive education. My abominably badly structured national motto should be a cue as to how much I value a 'dead' language.

[Themiclesia]

I don't lose too much sleep over the loss of an expectation of classical language knowledge to demonstrate education.

Agreed. Linguistics is frankly a hobby. Mathematics and the practical sciences are more telling of an impressive education. My abominably badly structured national motto should be a cue as to how much I value a 'dead' language.

τὰ γράματα λεκτέα ἐστὶ κατὰ τὴν τῶν Ἑλλήνων γλῶτταν.

Please continue in a classical language if you want to discuss the importance of them. Also, I recall that you've asked for a revision on the Latin Motto thread, one which was given but never adopted.

[Cyrisnia]

ഞാൻ ഇതിനകം ഞാൻ ഭാഷാശാസ്ത്രം നേരെ സര്വേ സമുദായത്തിന് സ്റ്റേറ്റ്സ് ജനറൽ ത്രെഡ് ഭൂരിഭാഗം താരതമ്യേന ശക്തി വസ്തുത കണ്ടു വേനൽക്കാലത്ത് പോലെ ഈ ത്രെഡ് ഏതാണ്ട് വിജയം എന്ന് പറയാൻ പറ്റില്ല. പക്ഷേ, ഞാൻ ഗൂഗിൾ വിവർത്തനം ഉപയോഗിച്ച് പിരിയുകയാണ് ആർക്കും അറിയാം! തിരിച്ചിങ്ങോട്ടും!
ഞാൻ ഉദ്ദേശിച്ചത്, അവിടെ ലാറ്റിൻ പുരാതന ഗ്രീക്ക് ആണ്, പക്ഷേ വേറെ ആരും പുരാതന ഭാഷകൾ ധാരാളമാണ് അധികം. ഞാൻ അവരുടെ ഭാഷ കരുതപ്പെട്ട മാറ്റമില്ലാതെ കാരണം ജനം പുരാതന ഭാഷകളിൽ നേരെ സംസാരിക്കുന്നു അടുത്തുള്ള കാര്യങ്ങൾ, ഗ്രീക്കുകാരും, എബ്രായർ, ഇറാൻ Lurs വിശ്വസിക്കുന്നു.
ഞാൻ ഇപ്പോഴും ആരും എന്തൊരു ഭാഷയും സ്ക്രിപ്റ്റ് അറിയുന്നു പത്തു ഡോളർ വാതുവെപ്പിൽ യത്ര.
#പൊട്ടിച്ചിരിക്കുക.

അല്ലെങ്കിൽ ഒരുപക്ഷേ പെട്ടെന്നു ഞാൻ ഈ സ്ക്രിപ്റ്റ് ഉപയോഗിച്ച് ഒരു ഗൂഢാലോചനയുടെ സൈദ്ധാന്തികൻ ആണ്.

ഞാൻ അല്ലയോ?

[Dinake]

Linguam Latinam et linguam Graeciam(Novi Testamenti) Scio, et lingua Sina antiqua disceo.

[Cyrisnia]

Linguam Latinam et linguam Graeciam(Novi Testamenti) Scio, et lingua Sina antiqua disceo.

എന്തുകൊണ്ട് എല്ലാവർക്കും ലാറ്റിൻ ഉപയോഗിക്കുന്നത്.
(Latin. Why does everyone use Latin?)

[Dinake]

Linguam Latinam et linguam Graeciam(Novi Testamenti) Scio, et lingua Sina antiqua disceo.

എന്തുകൊണ്ട് എല്ലാവർക്കും ലാറ്റിൻ ഉപയോഗിക്കുന്നത്.
(Latin. Why does everyone use Latin?)

Quod usu alia littera est difficilis. Scio quod didici in ludo.

[Portomellow]

I don't lose too much sleep over the loss of an expectation of classical language knowledge to demonstrate education.

τὰ γράματα λεκτέα ἐστὶ κατὰ τὴν τῶν Ἑλλήνων γλῶτταν.

ashan loesta quirvan ishto nolayui

[Middle C]

I don't lose too much sleep over the loss of an expectation of classical language knowledge to demonstrate education.

Learning a classical language is about fully appreciating ancient poetry and philosophy.

[Portomellow]

I don't lose too much sleep over the loss of an expectation of classical language knowledge to demonstrate education.

Learning a classical language is about fully appreciating ancient poetry and philosophy.

I'm not arguing that it has some vague value. I do argue against the idea that it is of enough value that we should weep its loss as a standard to demonstrate education.

[Themiclesia]

Lengthy conversations should ideally be in either Latin or Greek in this thread. English segments should be limited to a sentence or less.

[Dinake]

Lengthy conversations should ideally be in either Latin or Greek in this thread. English segments should be limited to a sentence or less.

What about other classical languages?

[The Archregimancy]

[Scyobayrynn]

Na nga def! Ma ngi tuud Mikal. Na nga tuud?

[The Archregimancy]

Na nga def! Ma ngi tuud Mikal. Na nga tuud?

Jaam nga fanane. Mangi fi rekk, na nga def? Fan nga joge?

[Though please note that Wolof doesn't come under the parameters of the thread; perhaps consider starting a separate thread for contemporary African languages if you genuinely speak Wolof]

[Astrolinium]

Forsan... dies V vivet filum? Sed vir sum magnae largitionis -- huiusmodi fila numquam longe vivunt. Sed num maneat hoc videbimus quidem.

Bene, de disciplina rerum classicarum, haec dicenda habeo: Roma Antiqua et ἡ καλὴ Ἑλλάς antea sunt fundamentum nostrae societatis occidentalis -- scilicet, quibus e loco alio venerunt exclusis --, dum non necessest omnibus discere de his, necessest nonullis. Ut dixit Carolus Sagan: si tortam malorum e nihilo coquere vis, primum mundus fingendus est tibi.

[Middle C]

Learning a classical language is about fully appreciating ancient poetry and philosophy.

I'm not arguing that it has some vague value. I do argue against the idea that it is of enough value that we should weep its loss as a standard to demonstrate education.

I weep that it's not part of standard education. Sure, it's not something that's "practical" (makes money), but Greek and Latin texts are the foundation of Western civilization, from the Greeks, to the Roman Empire, to the Renaissance, to the Enlightenment.

[Phocidaea]

I don't lose too much sleep over the loss of an expectation of classical language knowledge to demonstrate education.

Agreed. Linguistics is frankly a hobby. Mathematics and the practical sciences are more telling of an impressive education. My abominably badly structured national motto should be a cue as to how much I value a 'dead' language.

>linguistics
Loqui possumusne in hoc verbo? Homines enim populariter hoc verbum modo linguarum, ea sunt multae dictiones, studia definiunt.

Quod significat non hoc est.

[The Blaatschapen]

A small note, to drag this thread away from a threadjack about the value of classic greek and latin:
The topic what the place of classical greek and latin should be in western education is not the topic here (unless written in said languages ). You're free to start a different thread on that though.

The Blaatschapen - Nationstates Moderator

Romanes eunt domus.

[Astrolinium]

Agreed. Linguistics is frankly a hobby. Mathematics and the practical sciences are more telling of an impressive education. My abominably badly structured national motto should be a cue as to how much I value a 'dead' language.

>linguistics
Loqui possumusne in hoc verbo? Homines enim populariter hoc verbum modo linguarum, ea sunt multae dictiones, studia definiunt.

Quod significat non hoc est.

Sed nonne philologia classica¹ modus glottologiae² est -- quidquid conclassicistae³ mei dicere soleant?


¹Classical Philology
²Linguistics
³Fellow Classicists

[Scyobayrynn]

Na nga def! Ma ngi tuud Mikal. Na nga tuud?

Jaam nga fanane. Mangi fi rekk, na nga def? Fan nga joge?

[Though please note that Wolof doesn't come under the parameters of the thread; perhaps consider starting a separate thread for contemporary African languages if you genuinely speak Wolof]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_language

I beg to differ. Certainly just as much in the parameters of the thread on Classical Language as Sumerian. Of course if YOU genuinely spoke Wolof you would have already realized it qualified, and if you had looked it up to fact check before attempting to call me out you would have realized your error...if it was an /honest/ error.


But certainly anything I post anywhere isnt in the parameters of the thread. Not enough room in my sig.

Yalla moo ma seede.

[The Archregimancy]

[Though please note that Wolof doesn't come under the parameters of the thread; perhaps consider starting a separate thread for contemporary African languages if you genuinely speak Wolof]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_language

I beg to differ. Certainly just as much in the parameters of the thread on Classical Language as Sumerian. Of course if YOU genuinely spoke Wolof you would have already realized it qualified, and if you had looked it up to fact check before attempting to call me out you would have realized your error...if it was an /honest/ error.

The OP says this:

Edit: conversations in this thread should be in either AnyDialect ^TM Greek or Latin.

Therefore Wolof doesn't come under the parameters of the thread. That Wiki lists classical Wolof as a 'classical language' is neither here nor there in this context given the explicit instructions about appropriate languages listed in the OP.

Sumerian doesn't come under the parameters of the thread either; but then I never claimed it did. Most people who know I'm an archaeologist likely realised that my posting 'my hovercraft is full of eels' in Sumerian was a Python-quoting archaeology joke. Whether it was a good one or not I leave for others to judge.

[Agritum]

I don't lose too much sleep over the loss of an expectation of classical language knowledge to demonstrate education.

Agreed. Linguistics is frankly a hobby. Mathematics and the practical sciences are more telling of an impressive education. My abominably badly structured national motto should be a cue as to how much I value a 'dead' language.

Stop sounding like the parody of your average Reddit STEMlord, please.