2014 Study of CIA Detention and Interrogation released

[Iwassoclose]

http://www.intelligence.senate.gov/stud ... study1.pdf

The document is 525 pages. The findings and conclusions are on page 8-24 (16 pages, over 3k words), if nothing else just read this part.

I never really believed that torture was ineffective to the degree the study has found, nobody ever provided direct evidence when I asked them to prove it in a discussion on the topic. But this is damning as hell.

So much corruption, ineptitude, greed, violence and incompetence. I really am at a loss for words.

[Margno]

Someone tl; dr this shit. For the people.

[Herskerstad]

Is this not Feinstein's brainchild, if one can even call it that?

I am a natural skeptic out of anything that comes out of the mouth, or is overseen by that creature.

[Ashmoria]

Is this not Feinstein's brainchild, if one can even call it that?

I am a natural skeptic out of anything that comes out of the mouth, or is overseen by that creature.

its jay rockerfeller's brainchild.

[Myrensis]

Someone tl; dr this shit. For the people.

tl;dr The CIA wasn't really prepared to play large scale jailer/interrogator, got overzealous with it, and weren't exactly honest when reporting to Congress/the White House/other oversight groups about the extent of the 'enhanced interrogation' or its effectiveness.

In short, nothing most people didn't all ready know, but conservative tears are all ready beginning to flow.

[Terrordome]

It would be more shocking if literally everybody didn't already know that the CIA have been torturing the hell out of people for ages. For the record I disapprove of torture and it something the bad guys do. When fighting evil we must not become evil ourselves.

And yes, waterboarding, deafening music for hours or days at a time, sleep depravation and other "enhanced interrogation" methods are torture.

[Iwassoclose]

Someone tl; dr this shit. For the people.

#1: The CIA's use of its enhanced interrogation techniques was not an effective means of acquiring intelligence or gaining cooperation from detainees.

#2: The CIA's justification for the use of its enhanced interrogation techniques rested on inaccurate claims of their effectiveness.

#3: The interrogations of CIA detainees were brutal and far worse than the CIA represented to policy makers and others.

#4:The conditions of confinement for CIA detainees were harsher than the CIA had represented to policy makers and others.

#5: The CIA repeatedly provided inaccurate information to the Department of Justice, impeding a proper legal analysis of the CIA's Detention and Interrogation Program.

#7: The CIA impeded effective White House oversight and decision-making.

#8:The CIA's operation and management of the program complicated, and in some cases impeded, the national security missions of other Executive Branch agencies.

#9: The CIA impeded oversight by the CIA's Office of Inspector General.

#10: The CIA coordinated the release of classified information to the media, including inaccurate information concerning the effectiveness of the CIA's enhanced interrogation techniques.

#11:The CIA was unprepared as it began operating its Detention and Interrogation Program more than six months after being granted detention authorities.

#12: The CIA's management and operation of its Detention and Interrogation Program was deeply flawed throughout the program's duration, particularly so in 2002 and early 2003.

#13: Two contract psychologists devised the CIA's enhanced interrogation techniques and played a central role in the operation, assessments, and management of the CIA's Detention and Interrogation Program. By 2005, the CIA had overwhelmingly outsourced operations related to the program. (those two psychologists went on to create a private interrogation company, netting like 300m)

#14: CIA detainees were subjected to coercive interrogation techniques that had not been approved by the Department of Justice or had not been authorized by CIA Headquarters.

#15:The CIA did not conduct a comprehensive or accurate accounting of the number of individuals it detained, and held individuals who did not meet the legal standard for detention. The CIA's claims about the number of detainees held and subjected to its enhanced Interrogation techniques were inaccurate. (for example they held a mentally challenged relative of one family to try to get them to reveal information)

#16:The CIA failed to adequately evaluate the effectiveness of its enhanced interrogation techniques. (had incompetent people who were unskilled doing the work)

#17: The CIA rarely reprimanded or held personnel accountable for serious and significant violations, inappropriate activities, and systemic and individual management failures. (killed someone in interrogation)

#18:The CIA marginalized and ignored numerous internal critiques, criticisms, and objections concerning the operation and management of the CIA's Detention and Interrogation Program.

#19;The CIA's Detention and Interrogation Program was inherently unsustainable and had effectively ended by 2006 due to unauthorized press disclosures, reduced cooperation from other nations, and legal and oversight concerns.

#20; The CIA's Detention and Interrogation Program damaged the United States' standing in the world, and resulted in other significant monetary and non-monetary costs.

This is just the bare bones, read the study for proper examples/events for each point.

[Scomagia]

And I'm sure there won't be a single fucking thing done about the things detailed in the report.

[Gravlen]

Someone tl; dr this shit. For the people.

To words:

"Rectal rehydration"


...




So there's that...

[West Aurelia]

Brace for overload of links on the subject. All are great reads.

Statement from Director Brennan on the SSCI Study on the Former Detention and Interrogation Program - CIA.

Live Coverage of the Senate Torture Report - The Intercept.

Panel Faults C.I.A. Over Brutality and Deceit in Interrogations - The New York Times.

Bush Team Approved C.I.A. Tactics, but Was Kept in Dark on Details, Report Says - The New York Times.

The Senate Report on the C.I.A.’s Torture and Lies - The New York Times.

Civil Rights Groups Call for Prosecution of Torture Architects - The Intercept.

Off the Grid: Nine CIA 'Black Sites' Where Detainees Were Tortured - The Intercept.

CIA’s Claims That Torture Stopped ‘Karachi Plots’ Are Baseless, Senate Report Says - Foreign Policy.

Report Portrays a Broken C.I.A. Devoted to a Failed Approach - The New York Times.

A Pistol Near the Head and a Cordless Drill Near the Body - Foreign Policy.

A History of the C.I.A.’s Secret Interrogation Program - The New York Times.

CIA paid Poland to ease qualms over secret prison: Senate report - Reuters.

CIA unlikely to lose power in wake of interrogation report - The Washington Post.

Hayden’s testimony vs. the Senate report - The Washington Post.

Coming Clean, With Bloodstained Hands - Foreign Policy.

[Greed and Death]

25 % of all countries in the world including every democracy helped us torture people.

[Napkiraly]

25 % of all countries in the world including every democracy helped us torture people.

Your point?

[Ripoll]

I'm against it, while I have no sympathy for terrorists, this is wasteful spending and a gross violation of human rights which only damages our reputation but doesn't help our interests either. It's a lose lose

[Alyakia]

Someone tl; dr this shit. For the people.

they shoved shit up peoples asses, tortured people that were innocent and even went as far as to kidnap entirely innocent people just to get their families. did i mention they threatened to kill their families? oh and they totally fucking lied about it lol.

rectal rehydration should become a new meme.

[Greed and Death]

25 % of all countries in the world including every democracy helped us torture people.

Your point?

Totalitarianism is good for preventing torture.

[The balkens]

Someone tl; dr this shit. For the people.

To words:

"Rectal rehydration"


...




So there's that...

Woah.

[Alyakia]

Your point?

Totalitarianism is good for preventing torture.

is this an actual point or are you just threadshitting? should i even bother asking? the common factor for "not helping the CIA torture" is "not being friends with the CIA" not "be totalitarian".

actually france and norway weren't in on it. few others as well i think. good on them.

[West Aurelia]

Here’s What the CIA Actually Did in Interrogations.

More than just waterboarding

The debate over the CIA’s interrogation and detention program became very graphic Tuesday with the release of a Senate report.

After reviewing more than 6.2 million documents, Senate investigators went into detail on some of the specific things done to detainees under the program, which critics say amounted to torture.

Not every method was used regularly and some may have been used only once. But here’s a running list of the methods outlined in the report:

• Forcibly shaving a detainee (p. 72)
• Waterboarding one detainee more than 183 times (pg. 85)
• Pureeing a detainee’s lunch tray of hummus, pasta, nuts and raisins and putting it in his rectum (pg. 100)
• Forcing detainees to stand on broken feet (pg. 101)
• Forcing a detainee to wear a diaper with no access to a bathroom (pg. 53)
• Playing loud music 24 hours a day (pg. 53)
• Handcuffing a detainee to the ceiling for 22 hours a day so he couldn’t lower his arms (pg. 53)
• Forcing a detainee to sit naked on a cold concrete floor (pg. 54)
• Depriving detainees of sleep for up to 180 hours (pg. 165)
• Threatening a detainee with a gun and an electric drill (pg. 69)
• Threatening detainees’ families, including telling one detainee that his mother would be sexually abused in front of him (pg. 70)
• Forcibly bathing a detainee with a stiff brush (pg. 70)
• Keeping detainees in isolation for years (pg. 80)
• Dousing detainees with cold water (pg. 105)
• Keeping detainees in uncomfortably cold temperatures (pg. 105)
• Forcing detainees to subsist on liquid diets (pg. 165)
• Putting insects in a confinement box with a detainee (pg. 409)
• Carrying out mock executions (pg. 59)
• Covering detainees’ heads with hoods (p. 53)
• “Walling,” or slamming detainees against the wall (pg. 40)
• Administering facial and abdominal slaps (p. 42)
• Blowing cigarette smoke into a detainee’s face (pg. 190)
• Dragging a detainee blindfolded through the dirt in a “rough takedown” (pg. 190)

[Napkiraly]

To words:

"Rectal rehydration"


...




So there's that...

Woah.

Shitty.

Totalitarianism is good for preventing torture.

is this an actual point or are you just threadshitting? should i even bother asking? the common factor for "not helping the CIA torture" is "not being friends with the CIA" not "be totalitarian".

actually france and norway weren't in on it. few others as well i think. good on them.

Also ^this.

[The balkens]

Here’s What the CIA Actually Did in Interrogations.

More than just waterboarding

The debate over the CIA’s interrogation and detention program became very graphic Tuesday with the release of a Senate report.

After reviewing more than 6.2 million documents, Senate investigators went into detail on some of the specific things done to detainees under the program, which critics say amounted to torture.

Not every method was used regularly and some may have been used only once. But here’s a running list of the methods outlined in the report:

• Forcibly shaving a detainee (p. 72)
• Waterboarding one detainee more than 183 times (pg. 85)
• Pureeing a detainee’s lunch tray of hummus, pasta, nuts and raisins and putting it in his rectum (pg. 100)
• Forcing detainees to stand on broken feet (pg. 101)
• Forcing a detainee to wear a diaper with no access to a bathroom (pg. 53)
• Playing loud music 24 hours a day (pg. 53)
• Handcuffing a detainee to the ceiling for 22 hours a day so he couldn’t lower his arms (pg. 53)
• Forcing a detainee to sit naked on a cold concrete floor (pg. 54)
• Depriving detainees of sleep for up to 180 hours (pg. 165)
• Threatening a detainee with a gun and an electric drill (pg. 69)
• Threatening detainees’ families, including telling one detainee that his mother would be sexually abused in front of him (pg. 70)
• Forcibly bathing a detainee with a stiff brush (pg. 70)
• Keeping detainees in isolation for years (pg. 80)
• Dousing detainees with cold water (pg. 105)
• Keeping detainees in uncomfortably cold temperatures (pg. 105)
• Forcing detainees to subsist on liquid diets (pg. 165)
• Putting insects in a confinement box with a detainee (pg. 409)
• Carrying out mock executions (pg. 59)
• Covering detainees’ heads with hoods (p. 53)
• “Walling,” or slamming detainees against the wall (pg. 40)
• Administering facial and abdominal slaps (p. 42)
• Blowing cigarette smoke into a detainee’s face (pg. 190)
• Dragging a detainee blindfolded through the dirt in a “rough takedown” (pg. 190)

[Tyrandel]

I, for one, am glad that these unhinged sociopaths proud Americans are lying to and disobeying the US government fighting the good fight against terrorism.

[West Aurelia]

Here’s What the CIA Actually Did in Interrogations.

More than just waterboarding

The debate over the CIA’s interrogation and detention program became very graphic Tuesday with the release of a Senate report.

After reviewing more than 6.2 million documents, Senate investigators went into detail on some of the specific things done to detainees under the program, which critics say amounted to torture.

Not every method was used regularly and some may have been used only once. But here’s a running list of the methods outlined in the report:

• Forcibly shaving a detainee (p. 72)
• Waterboarding one detainee more than 183 times (pg. 85)
• Pureeing a detainee’s lunch tray of hummus, pasta, nuts and raisins and putting it in his rectum (pg. 100)
• Forcing detainees to stand on broken feet (pg. 101)
• Forcing a detainee to wear a diaper with no access to a bathroom (pg. 53)
• Playing loud music 24 hours a day (pg. 53)
• Handcuffing a detainee to the ceiling for 22 hours a day so he couldn’t lower his arms (pg. 53)
• Forcing a detainee to sit naked on a cold concrete floor (pg. 54)
• Depriving detainees of sleep for up to 180 hours (pg. 165)
• Threatening a detainee with a gun and an electric drill (pg. 69)
• Threatening detainees’ families, including telling one detainee that his mother would be sexually abused in front of him (pg. 70)
• Forcibly bathing a detainee with a stiff brush (pg. 70)
• Keeping detainees in isolation for years (pg. 80)
• Dousing detainees with cold water (pg. 105)
• Keeping detainees in uncomfortably cold temperatures (pg. 105)
• Forcing detainees to subsist on liquid diets (pg. 165)
• Putting insects in a confinement box with a detainee (pg. 409)
• Carrying out mock executions (pg. 59)
• Covering detainees’ heads with hoods (p. 53)
• “Walling,” or slamming detainees against the wall (pg. 40)
• Administering facial and abdominal slaps (p. 42)
• Blowing cigarette smoke into a detainee’s face (pg. 190)
• Dragging a detainee blindfolded through the dirt in a “rough takedown” (pg. 190)

Yup.

Also Marco Rubio Tweeted this:

"Just moments ago the U.S. Senate passed our bill imposing sanctions against human rights violators working for @NicolasMaduro in #Venezuela"

17 hours later, when the torture report was released, he Tweeted this:

"Those who served us in aftermath of 9/11 deserve our thanks not one sided partisan Senate report that now places American lives in danger."

Hypocrisy at its finest.

[The balkens]

Yup.

Also Marco Rubio Tweeted this:

"Just moments ago the U.S. Senate passed our bill imposing sanctions against human rights violators working for @NicolasMaduro in #Venezuela"

17 hours later, when the torture report was released, he Tweeted this:

"Those who served us in aftermath of 9/11 deserve our thanks not one sided partisan Senate report that now places American lives in danger."

Hypocrisy at its finest.

Rubio shouldve been censored a long ass time ago.

[Alyakia]

Here’s What the CIA Actually Did in Interrogations.

More than just waterboarding

The debate over the CIA’s interrogation and detention program became very graphic Tuesday with the release of a Senate report.

After reviewing more than 6.2 million documents, Senate investigators went into detail on some of the specific things done to detainees under the program, which critics say amounted to torture.

Not every method was used regularly and some may have been used only once. But here’s a running list of the methods outlined in the report:

• Forcibly shaving a detainee (p. 72)
• Waterboarding one detainee more than 183 times (pg. 85)
• Pureeing a detainee’s lunch tray of hummus, pasta, nuts and raisins and putting it in his rectum (pg. 100)
• Forcing detainees to stand on broken feet (pg. 101)
• Forcing a detainee to wear a diaper with no access to a bathroom (pg. 53)
• Playing loud music 24 hours a day (pg. 53)
• Handcuffing a detainee to the ceiling for 22 hours a day so he couldn’t lower his arms (pg. 53)
• Forcing a detainee to sit naked on a cold concrete floor (pg. 54)
• Depriving detainees of sleep for up to 180 hours (pg. 165)
• Threatening a detainee with a gun and an electric drill (pg. 69)
• Threatening detainees’ families, including telling one detainee that his mother would be sexually abused in front of him (pg. 70)
• Forcibly bathing a detainee with a stiff brush (pg. 70)
• Keeping detainees in isolation for years (pg. 80)
• Dousing detainees with cold water (pg. 105)
• Keeping detainees in uncomfortably cold temperatures (pg. 105)
• Forcing detainees to subsist on liquid diets (pg. 165)
• Putting insects in a confinement box with a detainee (pg. 409)
• Carrying out mock executions (pg. 59)
• Covering detainees’ heads with hoods (p. 53)
• “Walling,” or slamming detainees against the wall (pg. 40)
• Administering facial and abdominal slaps (p. 42)
• Blowing cigarette smoke into a detainee’s face (pg. 190)
• Dragging a detainee blindfolded through the dirt in a “rough takedown” (pg. 190)

listen. sometimes you just gotta shove pasta up a mans ass. it's easy to sit there, in your comfy homes, and criticize. but you don't know the reality of war. and do you know why you don't? it's because our boys are out there keeping you safe, shoving pasta up people's asses for the greater good so you don't have to. what do you think would happen if the taliban captured one of OUR men, and they just so happened to have some pasta nearby?

[Napkiraly]

Yup.

Also Marco Rubio Tweeted this:

"Just moments ago the U.S. Senate passed our bill imposing sanctions against human rights violators working for @NicolasMaduro in #Venezuela"

17 hours later, when the torture report was released, he Tweeted this:

"Those who served us in aftermath of 9/11 deserve our thanks not one sided partisan Senate report that now places American lives in danger."

Hypocrisy at its finest.

Any one here surprised? Any one?