The Rerno Crisis (O.O.C - Open)

[Isle of Lost]

Out of Character (O.O.C) thread for the Rerno Crisis thread.

The Rerno Crisis is a continuation of the Factio Dominium thread and as such all roleplayers who were part of the Factio thread are already permitted into this one without need for posting an App (To keep it clear, only those who posted on the Factio IC thread are already permitted, if you only posted OOC then go ahead and fill out an application)

Rules:
1. No Godmodding, this includes warping, number wanks, controlling other nation's assets, etc...
2. Keep the force sizes and IC conflict realistic! If another RPer challenges your realisim, don't get mad, but rather hear them out to prevent flaming and promote better military or diplomacy related realism.
3. Do not post on the IC unless first approved in the OOC.
4. Do not assume relations. If you have had no contact with the Merick Isles in the past, now is not the time assume your nation has established diplomatic ties. (Trade ties on the other hand are acceptable, but do not take that too far as to assume trade partner status)
5. Keep the OOC language clean!
6. The OP reserves the right to reject your application for whatever reason and also holds the right to remove you from the thread if your behavior is uncooperative or rude/troll like.

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[b]Full Nation Name:[/b]
[b]Type of Government:[/b]
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[b]RP Sample[/b]

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Accepted Roleplayers:
-Inyourfaceistan
-The Kyro Republic
-El Cuscatlan
-Lolloh
-Quirina

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Important Information
-Will add maps and other bullet-board information-

[Lolloh]

Wow, already accepted.

Well, this is escalating pretty quickly...

[Quirina]

Meh, we just like to give something to those what they truly deserve tho.

[Isle of Lost]

Wow, already accepted.

Well, this is escalating pretty quickly...

Don't neglect the Bulregard thread. If you think intervening in Rerno and not kissing serious Ruol a*s prior is going to put you in a spot where you get to keep your Embassy, you have another thing coming.

[Lolloh]

Well, I've got my hands tied. My navy is far too small to intervene in both Rerno AND the Kulgis, though, as is, I probably won't be sending any aid, beyond maybe a few observant subs, since my preconditions to aid (a referendum and a Rernoese request for assistance) have not been met. But I might, as I said, increase my sub deployment, especially since IYF is (ICly) declaring nonintervention and support of my movement.

[Isle of Lost]

Well, I've got my hands tied. My navy is far too small to intervene in both Rerno AND the Kulgis, though, as is, I probably won't be sending any aid, beyond maybe a few observant subs, since my preconditions to aid (a referendum and a Rernoese request for assistance) have not been met. But I might, as I said, increase my sub deployment, especially since IYF is (ICly) declaring nonintervention and support of my movement.

Not to mention your navy is far too small and far too weak to take on the Merickian Confederate Navy. I'd be willing to wager the Marshalese Reserve Naval Force could troll-full-stomp your entire navy without much extra effort. But thats just an opinion, as where the Merickian Navy outweighing yours is a definite fact.

[Lolloh]

Weight isn't particularly relevant in naval warfare anymore so much as firepower. While enjoy to see that I've got you into a state of hubris not to be easily exceeded, I'm sending a few subs to monitor the situation peacefully, though, one must pose the question:

If your Gentiums have their own armies and can declare war on each other, why hasn't your nation broken apart into numerous tiny, warring sects?

[Isle of Lost]

Weight isn't particularly relevant in naval warfare anymore so much as firepower. While enjoy to see that I've got you into a state of hubris not to be easily exceeded, I'm sending a few subs to monitor the situation peacefully, though, one must pose the question:

If your Gentiums have their own armies and can declare war on each other, why hasn't your nation broken apart into numerous tiny, warring sects?

Never said weight was Lolloh...

The fact is you don't understand that not only would you never be allowed to use Zumwalts, but that they aren't the kind of vessel you THINK they are. The newest surface ship in the Merickian Navy is the Pelican Class Destroyer, which is a bit smaller and lighter than the Zumwalt, but much much better in terms of firepower. Not only that, but you don't understand Submarine Warfare even the slightest. The prove that point, let me quote you real quick:

I'm sending a few subs to monitor the situation peacefully.

As for your question, it is rather simple really and your theory was disproved in this IC and the Factio IC already.

The Gentems do have their own small armies, but they are Reserve forces like the U.S National Guard and are subservient to the Confederate Military and can be commanded to do whatever the Confederate Military wishes. Gentems are NOT allowed to declare war on one another as you'd notice if you would read what I write and not skim it. That, Lolloh, is why Rerno seceding and Marshal declaring war on it is such a big deal...


EDIT: Lol, your lack of reading just made your Defense Minister look stupid ICly...

[Lolloh]

Never said weight was Lolloh...

You did. I merely took it and made a very poor anti-joke out of it, sorta.

The fact is you don't understand that not only would you never be allowed to use Zumwalts, but that they aren't the kind of vessel you THINK they are. The newest surface ship in the Merickian Navy is the Pelican Class Destroyer, which is a bit smaller and lighter than the Zumwalt, but much much better in terms of firepower. Not only that, but you don't understand Submarine Warfare even the slightest.

What do you mean "never allowed to use"? There's nothing in the treaties against it, though I'll probably just use my own fleet, since that's probably the only way I'll reach parity with Mr Right. I understand submarine warfare quite well: I deploy subs several hundred kilometers away, which I would assume is the boundary of your international claim, being an island nation. Then, I just sit around with these submarines, to see what's going on, and then shoot off some missiles if I give the go-ahead to do so.

The Gentems do have their own small armies, but they are Reserve forces like the U.S National Guard and are subservient to the Confederate Military and can be commanded to do whatever the Confederate Military wishes. Gentems are NOT allowed to declare war on one another as you'd notice if you would read what I write and not skim it. That, Lolloh, is why Rerno seceding and Marshal declaring war on it is such a big deal...

I DID read that section, actually, don't simply jump to conclusions over such things, it's rather annoying to be accused of doing something you didn't.

I am perfectly aware why it is such a big deal, but I wouldn't call 58000 soldiers a "small" reserve force.

[E Jomhuri ye Eslami ye Iran]

Full Nation Name: The Islamic Republic of Iran
Type of Government: Khomeinism with what you can call erm... Ahmadinejadism or Ahmadnejadist-Socialism
Reason For Joining: Because my frenemy is here, would be great to be in another role play with GC
RP Sample: Everyone knows the epicness of my main account Souriya Al-Assad , as well as the threads I made in my other ones that I made after that one. For this account specifically, I shalt provide a taste of a role play that is in the developmental phase: http://www.nationstates.net/nation=e_jo ... /id=332705

I love Cyberwarfare!

I noticed

[El Cuscatlan]

Souriya, you are just aware that this RP is set anywhere before 2018? Just to ensure that you know that no PMTech like Future soldier systems and so on will be brought there .

[Isle of Lost]

What do you mean "never allowed to use"? There's nothing in the treaties against it, though I'll probably just use my own fleet, since that's probably the only way I'll reach parity with Mr Right. I understand submarine warfare quite well: I deploy subs several hundred kilometers away, which I would assume is the boundary of your international claim, being an island nation. Then, I just sit around with these submarines, to see what's going on, and then shoot off some missiles if I give the go-ahead to do so.

The U.S wouldn't allow it. Of course this is NS and every fool runs around with F-22s, so I really don't care, but its a valid point that you'd never even be allowed to stare at them until maybe 2080 when everyone's ships look like it.

I DID read that section, actually, don't simply jump to conclusions over such things, it's rather annoying to be accused of doing something you didn't.

You wouldn't accused of doing that if you'd read what I wrote and not jump to conclusions, which is rather annoying to deal with as well.

I am perfectly aware why it is such a big deal, but I wouldn't call 58000 soldiers a "small" reserve force.

No, it is a small force because only about 5500 of them are Professional soliders. The rest are weekend warriors. Also in comparison to the size of the force I'd be sending if the Confederate Army invaded (roughly 9000-120,000) it kinda is.

[Isle of Lost]

Souriya, you are just aware that this RP is set anywhere before 2018? Just to ensure that you know that no PMTech like Future soldier systems and so on will be brought there .

Excellent question Cuscatlan!

[E Jomhuri ye Eslami ye Iran]

Souriya, you are just aware that this RP is set anywhere before 2018? Just to ensure that you know that no PMTech like Future soldier systems and so on will be brought there .

Excellent question Cuscatlan!

Ratnik is technically coming out next year in real life however

Is Russia's Ratnik fine?

[Isle of Lost]

Excellent question Cuscatlan!

Ratnik is technically coming out next year in real life however

Is Russia's Ratnik fine?

Honestly I have purposefully avoided roleplaying with you for quite a long time now, often and unfortunately not supporting various Cuscatlani efforts because of it. I feel like it would be best if I didn't RP with you for the first time when it is my nation that is the set battlefield stage. I highly dislike any form of foreign controlling over my people and proletariat fighters coming out of my own woodworks wouldn't be the most pleasing sight.

My apologies, but I hope you can understand why I am going to have to Reject your application.

[Quirina]

My original plan was to send an agent to get 4,000 people with him in Rerno and have them as counter-revolutionary guerrillas to defeat the usurping regime through war of attrition and tactical assaults on important places of interest in Rerno. Would that work there?

[El Cuscatlan]

My original plan was to send an agent to get 4,000 people with him in Rerno and have them as counter-revolutionary guerrillas to defeat the usurping regime through war of attrition and tactical assaults on important places of interest in Rerno. Would that work there?

Rather not. Merrick does not like others controlling his own .

Lolloh, stand by. I intend to ask my advisor about one thing connected to cyberwarfare. Can you please specify how did you tracked those?

[Isle of Lost]

My original plan was to send an agent to get 4,000 people with him in Rerno and have them as counter-revolutionary guerrillas to defeat the usurping regime through war of attrition and tactical assaults on important places of interest in Rerno. Would that work there?

4,000 people would be a rather large stretch. I already know that IYF is going to send some Neige Luno to train those on the island who are against secession, but I don't expect the numbers to get that high. As in most war situations IRL, most of the Rernoese people care a lot about Session, but very few are going to go out and pick up arms like they would in the event of a foreign invasion.

A couple hundred operating the mountains or urban back alleys would be acceptable, but as I said IYF already informed me that that was his plan as well.

[Lolloh]

Lolloh, stand by. I intend to ask my advisor about one thing connected to cyberwarfare. Can you please specify how did you tracked those?

Well, presumably, since you have that "Mollon Labe" nonsense, your computer keyboard would be non-Italian, ie foreign. So, I just trace all computers with your type of keyboard, and block them!

IoL: So, the people of Rerno are against the secession?

[El Cuscatlan]

My original plan was to send an agent to get 4,000 people with him in Rerno and have them as counter-revolutionary guerrillas to defeat the usurping regime through war of attrition and tactical assaults on important places of interest in Rerno. Would that work there?

4,000 people would be a rather large stretch. I already know that IYF is going to send some Neige Luno to train those on the island who are against secession, but I don't expect the numbers to get that high. As in most war situations IRL, most of the Rernoese people care a lot about Session, but very few are going to go out and pick up arms like they would in the event of a foreign invasion.

A couple hundred operating the mountains or urban back alleys would be acceptable, but as I said IYF already informed me that that was his plan as well.

I believe that nothing should be against, however, RPing supporting them/training them/special operations to help them.

[Isle of Lost]

Lolloh, stand by. I intend to ask my advisor about one thing connected to cyberwarfare. Can you please specify how did you tracked those?

Well, presumably, since you have that "Mollon Labe" nonsense, your computer keyboard would be non-Italian, ie foreign. So, I just trace all computers with your type of keyboard, and block them!

IoL: So, the people of Rerno are against the secession?

Never said that. Never said they were for either.

[Quirina]

My original plan was to send an agent to get 4,000 people with him in Rerno and have them as counter-revolutionary guerrillas to defeat the usurping regime through war of attrition and tactical assaults on important places of interest in Rerno. Would that work there?

4,000 people would be a rather large stretch. I already know that IYF is going to send some Neige Luno to train those on the island who are against secession, but I don't expect the numbers to get that high. As in most war situations IRL, most of the Rernoese people care a lot about Session, but very few are going to go out and pick up arms like they would in the event of a foreign invasion.

A couple hundred operating the mountains or urban back alleys would be acceptable, but as I said IYF already informed me that that was his plan as well.

Hmm If Inyursta wants to do the same thing as I do, I'll reduce the numbers. I was thinking too large at the moment I mentioned 4,000.

[El Cuscatlan]

Lolloh, stand by. I intend to ask my advisor about one thing connected to cyberwarfare. Can you please specify how did you tracked those?

Well, presumably, since you have that "Mollon Labe" nonsense, your computer keyboard would be non-Italian, ie foreign. So, I just trace all computers with your type of keyboard, and block them.

I checked this with man who is expert on computers. This is impossible. You can not just detect keyboards, as well as language/local settings can be changed on computer.

[Isle of Lost]

Well, presumably, since you have that "Mollon Labe" nonsense, your computer keyboard would be non-Italian, ie foreign. So, I just trace all computers with your type of keyboard, and block them.

I checked this with man who is expert on computers. This is impossible. You can not just detect keyboards, as well as language/local settings can be changed on computer.

Character Map is an awesome program that allows you to use any and every symbol the computer knows. I don't see why the Cuscatlani's wouldn't just use a standard Qwerty Keyboard.

[Inyourfaceistan]

I checked this with man who is expert on computers. This is impossible. You can not just detect keyboards, as well as language/local settings can be changed on computer.

Character Map is an awesome program that allows you to use any and every symbol the computer knows. I don't see why the Cuscatlani's wouldn't just use a standard Qwerty Keyboard.

What is he talking about now...?