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Rape victim executed for killing its attacker

Postby Sau Island » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:08 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... laims.html
http://freebeacon.com/national-security ... pe-victim/

I do mean, what's wrong with there people? It was for legitimate defense, but as bad as killing someone is, that should not have counted as an intentional killing, as the victim was abusing her. What's your opinion on this?
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Postby Wushen » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:10 pm

She was defending herself, so she shouldn't of been killed.

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Postby Tyrinth » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:11 pm

Disgusting. I will say no more.
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Postby Edward Scissorhands » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:12 pm

Well, what do you expect? Iran, along with many others such as Saudi Arabia, are backwards and barbaric. They obviously need to set their clocks forward about 1,000 years.

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Postby The Bosakian Sultanate » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:12 pm

Sau Island wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2807313/Iranian-woman-sentenced-death-killing-man-claims-tried-rape-hanged-imminently-rights-group-claims.html
http://freebeacon.com/national-security ... pe-victim/

I do mean, what's wrong with there people? It was for legitimate defense, but as bad as killing someone is, that should not have counted as an intentional killing, as the victim was abusing her. What's your opinion on this?

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Postby The black lands of Mordor » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:13 pm

This crap...Sickens me, it is bad enough that women at treated like property, but now they don't even have the right to defend themselves?
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Postby Serrian » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:13 pm

Take note: This is in Iran, where they aren't overly big on gender equality. I guarantee a different outcome would be here if the genders were flipped.
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Postby Rhyfelnydd » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:13 pm

This is disgusting, it was clearly an act of desperate self defense. There should be no charges, let alone a god damn execution.
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Postby Central Slavia » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:17 pm

Hmm. I will be the nasty one and say, to what extent is her story proven true? I mean, that's supposedly the reason the court decided as it did - lack of evidence for the rape attempt happening.

However, the fact that she ended up in his office is mighty suspicious (for him) - knowing nothing else, her side of the story looks more plausible perhaps. The problem is , we don't know enough facts and we won't know them - her family and her are obviously very partial in this case, as unfortunately, is the state - so getting enough information to form a proper opinion might not even be possible.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:18 pm

The notion that men are incapable of controlling themselves if they see a pretty lady, so women have to make sure not to induce a man into raperage is dehumanizing to males as a whole, and encourages them to view their sexuality in such a manner.
It also leads to situations where a woman is blamed for shit that's entirely beyond her control, and in this case, executed for it. But this attitude still exists in the west to some degree, we simply don't kill people for it. (Probably because we decided Adultery is a social, not criminal, issue.)

The denial of responsibility is a common theme in sexism.
The man can't be responsible, because men can't help themselves and lack agency to do so. Therefore, the woman raped the man by dressing nicely. She forced him to have sex with her and then murdered him, that bitch. (This is their mentality.)

People need to understand that they do shit and are responsible for it. Blaming others isn't productive.

Incidentally, this does show their hypocrisy. They often demand that the woman do more to "fight off" their attacker, or "Didn't scream loud enough."
This one, apparently did. But woops, execution anyway.
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:18 pm

It's Iran. That she resisted at all sentenced her to death.
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Postby Elsa the Snow Queen » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:20 pm

Not surprised, seems like something you would expect from a shithole like Iran. Still, shocked and horrified
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Postby Anglo-California » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:20 pm

Edward Scissorhands wrote:Well, what do you expect? Iran, along with many others such as Saudi Arabia, are backwards and barbaric. They obviously need to set their clocks forward about 1,000 years.


Iran is actually significantly better than Saudi Arabia. Hell, Iran used to be a pleasant place back in the day, when it was the Kingdom of Persia.
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Postby Nord Amour » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:20 pm

A tragedy, but not surprising since it happened in Iran.

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Postby Pola » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:21 pm

I have Iranian roots, cause my family fled away when the shah was exiled in 1979.
It's disgusting what happened in Iran! Long live FARAH PAHLAVI!
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Postby The Bosakian Sultanate » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:23 pm

Pola wrote:I have Iranian roots, cause my family fled away when the shah was exiled in 1979.
It's disgusting what happened in Iran! Long live FARAH PAHLAVI!

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Postby Anglo-California » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:24 pm

If rape culture exists, this is what it looks like, not when Tumblr feminists get triggered.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:24 pm

Sau Island wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2807313/Iranian-woman-sentenced-death-killing-man-claims-tried-rape-hanged-imminently-rights-group-claims.html
http://freebeacon.com/national-security ... pe-victim/

I do mean, what's wrong with there people? It was for legitimate defense, but as bad as killing someone is, that should not have counted as an intentional killing, as the victim was abusing her. What's your opinion on this?


Women should have the right to defend/avenge their Honor. The state should respect that.

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Postby Utceforp » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:26 pm

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Pola wrote:I have Iranian roots, cause my family fled away when the shah was exiled in 1979.
It's disgusting what happened in Iran! Long live FARAH PAHLAVI!

LONG LIVE THE SAFAVID EMPIRE!

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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:26 pm

Seeing what country this took place in, can't say I'm surprised.
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Postby Saiwania » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:26 pm

Well, this is par for the course under Sharia law, which is what Anjem Choudary wants for every country.
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Postby Edward Scissorhands » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:26 pm

Anglo-California wrote:
Edward Scissorhands wrote:Well, what do you expect? Iran, along with many others such as Saudi Arabia, are backwards and barbaric. They obviously need to set their clocks forward about 1,000 years.


Iran is actually significantly better than Saudi Arabia. Hell, Iran used to be a pleasant place back in the day, when it was the Kingdom of Persia.


Yeah, but now it is ruled by religious extremists.

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Postby Edward Scissorhands » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:27 pm

Saiwania wrote:Well, this is par for the course under Sharia law, which is what Anjem Choudary wants for every country.


I am genuinely surprised that nobody has attempted to assassinate that prick yet. I am British, I will not tolerate Muslims trying to enforce their law on me.

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Postby Elsa the Snow Queen » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:28 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Sau Island wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2807313/Iranian-woman-sentenced-death-killing-man-claims-tried-rape-hanged-imminently-rights-group-claims.html
http://freebeacon.com/national-security ... pe-victim/

I do mean, what's wrong with there people? It was for legitimate defense, but as bad as killing someone is, that should not have counted as an intentional killing, as the victim was abusing her. What's your opinion on this?


Women should have the right to defend/avenge their Honor. The state should respect that.

Also, isn't there some suspicion that she may not have even done the stabbing and that a third party may be trying to place the blame her to cover up something they did
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Postby Pola » Sat Oct 25, 2014 12:30 pm

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Pola wrote:I have Iranian roots, cause my family fled away when the shah was exiled in 1979.
It's disgusting what happened in Iran! Long live FARAH PAHLAVI!

LONG LIVE THE SAFAVID EMPIRE!


I'm sorry but I'm in favour of the Pahlavis.
Farah is a good woman. She is still the mother of Persia in my eyes.
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