American Exceptionalism and History Class

[Othelos]

A little while ago, there was another thread on here about how some conservatives were complaining about 'negative' the AP US history curriculum was.

A proposal in a school board in the area around Denver led hundreds of students to walk out of class, because it would "focus history education on topics that promote citizenship, patriotism and respect for authority" and "calls of instructional materials that present positive aspects of the nation and its heritage. It would establish a committee to regularly review texts and course plans, starting with Advanced Placement history, to make sure materials "promote citizenship, patriotism, essentials and benefits of the free-market system, respect for authority and respect for individual rights" and don't "encourage or condone civil disorder, social strike or disregard of the law.""

I'm confused, why do people want to censor the history that's taught in classrooms? America has its fair share of bad history, and I think students have a right to know about it. Obviously the US is unique in its own ways, but I don't think that schools should be teaching biased courses to their students. Teach facts, not ideology.

What does NSG think?

[Mavorpen]

A little while ago, there was another thread on here about how some conservatives were complaining about 'negative' the AP US history curriculum was.

A proposal in a school board in the area around Denver led hundreds of students to walk out of class, because it would "focus history education on topics that promote citizenship, patriotism and respect for authority" and "calls of instructional materials that present positive aspects of the nation and its heritage. It would establish a committee to regularly review texts and course plans, starting with Advanced Placement history, to make sure materials "promote citizenship, patriotism, essentials and benefits of the free-market system, respect for authority and respect for individual rights" and don't "encourage or condone civil disorder, social strike or disregard of the law.""

I'm confused, why do people want to censor the history that's taught in classrooms? America has its fair share of bad history, and I think students have a right to know about them. Obviously the US is unique in its own ways, but I don't think that schools should be teaching biased courses to their students. Teach facts, not ideology.

What does NSG think?

There's a group of Americans who have an obsession with a period that never existed. And you can't maintain that fantasy without denying the rest of history. It seems that these people really fear their ideology and political power being reduced by the more progressive and open minded younger generation. Good. Let them panic. It'll only backfire as it seems to currently be doing.

[NERVUN]

People like looking good?

This isn't shocking.

Also, it should be noted that preparing young to become citizens is mainly what education is for.

[Othelos]

People like looking good?

This isn't shocking.

Also, it should be noted that preparing young to become citizens is mainly what education is for.

I am not opposed to promoting citizenship. What I am opposed to is glossing over facts.

[Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic]

It's annoying. During my sophomore year, our history class completely skipped the role of the Soviet Union during WWII.

[Murkwood]

We have to be careful about anti-Americanism and anti-Traditionalism in our schools and society (those who want to take "Under God" out of our pledge, for example). Educating kids on patriotism and citizenship is a good idea. Those who love their country are the best citizens of said country, as they will work hard to make it even better.

[Othelos]

We have to be careful about anti-Americanism and anti-Traditionalism in our schools and society (those who want to take "Under God" out of our pledge, for example). Educating kids on patriotism and citizenship is a good idea. Those who love their country are the best citizens of said country, as they will work hard to make it even better.

Being patriotic doesn't automatically make someone a better worker.

[Polygamist Britannia]

Patriotism has become an idol in society, the country being worshipped instead of our Lord our God.

[Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic]

We have to be careful about anti-Americanism and anti-Traditionalism in our schools and society (those who want to take "Under God" out of our pledge, for example). Educating kids on patriotism and citizenship is a good idea. Those who love their country are the best citizens of said country, as they will work hard to make it even better.

No. One has no reason to love a country. We should love the freedoms our Constitution provides, not the dirt it rules over.

[Mavorpen]

We have to be careful about anti-Americanism and anti-Traditionalism in our schools and society (those who want to take "Under God" out of our pledge, for example). Educating kids on patriotism and citizenship is a good idea. Those who love their country are the best citizens of said country, as they will work hard to make it even better.

The hilarious part, of course, is that the more you force this on students, the more they reject it. So go ahead. Keep pushing. The country could use more progressive young people.

[Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic]

We have to be careful about anti-Americanism and anti-Traditionalism in our schools and society (those who want to take "Under God" out of our pledge, for example). Educating kids on patriotism and citizenship is a good idea. Those who love their country are the best citizens of said country, as they will work hard to make it even better.

And what purpose is their in pursuing tradition? It stifles creativity and abstract thinking.

[Murkwood]

We have to be careful about anti-Americanism and anti-Traditionalism in our schools and society (those who want to take "Under God" out of our pledge, for example). Educating kids on patriotism and citizenship is a good idea. Those who love their country are the best citizens of said country, as they will work hard to make it even better.

No. One has no reason to love a country. We should love the freedoms our Constitution provides, not the dirt it rules over.

The country as an ideal, not the actual dirt.

On that topic, America is a beautiful country.

[Mavorpen]

We have to be careful about anti-Americanism and anti-Traditionalism in our schools and society (those who want to take "Under God" out of our pledge, for example). Educating kids on patriotism and citizenship is a good idea. Those who love their country are the best citizens of said country, as they will work hard to make it even better.

And what purpose is their in pursuing tradition? It stifles creativity and abstract thinking.

That's the point. Creativity and critical thinking makes it difficult to deny reality.

[Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic]

No. One has no reason to love a country. We should love the freedoms our Constitution provides, not the dirt it rules over.

The country as an ideal, not the actual dirt.

On that topic, America is a beautiful country.

Our country's founding principles go against patriotism, traditionalism, nationalism, and support secular government.

[Murkwood]

We have to be careful about anti-Americanism and anti-Traditionalism in our schools and society (those who want to take "Under God" out of our pledge, for example). Educating kids on patriotism and citizenship is a good idea. Those who love their country are the best citizens of said country, as they will work hard to make it even better.

And what purpose is their in pursuing tradition? It stifles creativity and abstract thinking.

Our country was founded on certain traditions that must be preserved.

[Mavorpen]

No. One has no reason to love a country. We should love the freedoms our Constitution provides, not the dirt it rules over.

The country as an ideal, not the actual dirt.

On that topic, America is a beautiful country.

You're not supposed to take “美国” literally.

[Murkwood]

The country as an ideal, not the actual dirt.

On that topic, America is a beautiful country.

Our country's founding principles go against patriotism, traditionalism, nationalism, and support secular government.

How so?

[Murkwood]

The country as an ideal, not the actual dirt.

On that topic, America is a beautiful country.

You're not supposed to take “美国” literally.

I see what you did there...

[Atlanticatia]

American history should be taught in an unbiased manner. Both the good and the bad should make it into the history books. American Exceptionalism is extremely silly.

[Polygamist Britannia]

And what purpose is their in pursuing tradition? It stifles creativity and abstract thinking.

Our country was founded on certain traditions that must be preserved.

America was founded on treason, the murder and torture of people loyal to the Crown.

[Saint Jade IV]

Has Denver been listening to our Minister for Education? Silly Denver.

[Murkwood]

American history should be taught in an unbiased manner. Both the good and the bad should make it into the history books. American Exceptionalism is extremely silly.

Why? We are an exceptional country.

[Polygamist Britannia]

American history should be taught in an unbiased manner. Both the good and the bad should make it into the history books. American Exceptionalism is extremely silly.

Why? We are an exceptional country.

No you're not.

[Mavorpen]

You're not supposed to take “美国” literally.

I see what you did there...

That's good. I was afraid that would go to waste.

[Nerotysia]

It shouldn't exist, but I suspect it does, and it sucks, but historical bias is not exactly a new phenomenon. That said, it obviously shouldn't happen. My AP US history class was decently fair, methinks. But then again I live in the northeastern US, I shudder to think what's going on elsewhere.

American history should be taught in an unbiased manner. Both the good and the bad should make it into the history books. American Exceptionalism is extremely silly.

Why? We are an exceptional country.

How?