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What was History's Greatest Empire?

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Greatest Empire

British Empire
235
32%
Ottoman Empire
22
3%
Japanese Empire
12
2%
Holy Roman Empire
27
4%
Russian Empire
24
3%
Persian Empire
19
3%
Napoleon's French Empire
37
5%
Chinese Empire
9
1%
Roman Empire
237
33%
Mongol Empire
103
14%
 
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What was History's Greatest Empire?

Postby New Decius » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:12 am

In your opinion what was the Greatest Empire in History.

I am torn between the British Empire and German Empire. The British Empire stretched around the world and was the greatest military power in the world for over three centuries with the Royal Navy being the most powerful Naval Force from the late 1600's to mid-1900's. The German Empire stretched around the world as well and was one of the greatest industrial powers in the early twentieth century. Their Imperial High Seas Fleet rivalled that of the British Grand Fleet and their ground army was one of the greatest in the world in training and experience.

What are your opinions on the subject?
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Postby Decreasing nations » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:14 am

The british empire

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Postby Northern Arcadian Empire » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:14 am

British Empire!

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Postby Masseau » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:15 am

I like the Romans as the greatest, or the Mongols.
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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:16 am

Roman Empire, and because you did not add it to the poll we must now conquer your city for the glory of Rome.
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Postby Wraland » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:17 am

Why isn't the Mongolian empire on the poll? It was the second largest.

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Postby KAS SRD » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:20 am

The British.

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Postby Sdaeriji » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:21 am

The Roman Empire. Your poll is shit.
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Kinda Ambiguous

Postby BredBeddles Utopia » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:23 am

Mongols/Romans or I guess in closer to modern times the french, Napoleon brought a large amount of innovation in a short time that would easily outlive him and his empire.

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Postby Arain » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:23 am

Is he talking about more recent empires? If not then the Arab Empire.

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Postby Utceforp » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:23 am

Mongol Empire or Achaemenid Empire, neither of which are on the list. Largest contiguous empire and largest empire by population, respectively. The Mongol Empire had an enormous effect on population, and so thoroughly destroyed the Middle East's population that it is still recovering today. Cyrus the Great was a magnificent bastard and he was one of the first people to actually care about the administration and stability of his realm beyond what would get him the best tribute, unlike the Achaemenid's successors, the Macedonian Empire, which collapsed from overextension after a single succession crisis despite controlling roughly the same amount of territory. Religious freedom was the norm and slavery was banned too, which made the Achaemenid Empire one of the nicest places to live in the ancient world. Plus, they controlled around 40% of the world's population, though admittedly the Middle East was a very highly populated region, until the Mongols stepped in of course.
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Postby Briwen » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:24 am

roman, macedonian, south american, mongolian empire... there were so many empires......there never was a greatest empire since all empires suck.

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Postby Utceforp » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:25 am

Briwen wrote:roman, macedonian, south american, mongolian empire... there were so many empires......there never was a greatest empire since all empires suck.

The Achaemenid Empire was a lot better than most of the states they conquered. Also, I don't think that at any point in history there was a "South American Empire".

This poll is kind of shit though. The Austro-Hungarian Empire is included but not the Roman or Mongol Empires? Really?
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Postby Prezelly » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:25 am

Romans.
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Postby Davinhia » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:25 am

Y U NO ROMAN EMPIRE
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Postby Untaroicht » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:27 am

The Byzantine Empire
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Postby Utceforp » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:28 am

Untaroicht wrote:The Byzantine Empire

The Byzantines were a rump state that really spent most of their existence losing territory. If you're going to vote for Rome, vote for the continent-spanning empire. That's just common sense.
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Postby BredBeddles Utopia » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:30 am

Untaroicht wrote:The Byzantine Empire

It can be argued that this would be contained in the roman empire, Despite the shift in location. At any rate neither are an option.

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Postby Alexandreon » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:30 am

Roman Empire, due to its cultural significance. And as a law student, I have to say that without Ancient Rome, the Civil Law system that is so widespread (apart from most Anglo-Saxon and post-British states) would never emerge.

Some of Roman legal institutions exists to this day in almost unchanged shape- Actio Pauliana, definition of "vis maior" from the Corpus Iuris Civilis (I know, I know, it's Byzantine, but based upon the classic law of the imperial period)... Virtually entire legal system of continental Europe is roman heritage, only adopted and altered in two main manners by French Code Civil or German BGB (or rather Pandektenwissenschaft tradition)...
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Postby KAS SRD » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:31 am

Utceforp wrote:
Briwen wrote:roman, macedonian, south american, mongolian empire... there were so many empires......there never was a greatest empire since all empires suck.

The Achaemenid Empire was a lot better than most of the states they conquered. Also, I don't think that at any point in history there was a "South American Empire".

This poll is kind of shit though. The Austro-Hungarian Empire is included but not the Roman or Mongol Empires? Really?

Obviously the country that constantly suffered from rebellion is *cough*not*cough* more important than the most powerful nation of the ancient world and the second largest one in history.

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Postby Untaroicht » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:32 am

Utceforp wrote:
Untaroicht wrote:The Byzantine Empire

The Byzantines were a rump state that really spent most of their existence losing territory. If you're going to vote for Rome, vote for the continent-spanning empire. That's just common sense.


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They flourished culturally and scientifically during the medieval era while the rest of Europe was in the dark ages, enough to rival the islamic golden age.
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Postby BredBeddles Utopia » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:32 am

Alexandreon wrote:Roman Empire, due to its cultural significance. And as a law student, I have to say that without Ancient Rome, the Civil Law system that is so widespread (apart from most Anglo-Saxon and post-British states) would never emerge.

Some of Roman legal institutions exists to this day in almost unchanged shape- Actio Pauliana, definition of "vis maior" from the Corpus Iuris Civilis (I know, I know, it's Byzantine, but based upon the classic law of the imperial period)... Virtually entire legal system of continental Europe is roman heritage, only adopted and altered in two main manners by French Code Civil or German BGB (or rather Pandektenwissenschaft tradition)...


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Postby Alexandreon » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:38 am

BredBeddles Utopia wrote:
Alexandreon wrote:Roman Empire, due to its cultural significance. And as a law student, I have to say that without Ancient Rome, the Civil Law system that is so widespread (apart from most Anglo-Saxon and post-British states) would never emerge.

Some of Roman legal institutions exists to this day in almost unchanged shape- Actio Pauliana, definition of "vis maior" from the Corpus Iuris Civilis (I know, I know, it's Byzantine, but based upon the classic law of the imperial period)... Virtually entire legal system of continental Europe is roman heritage, only adopted and altered in two main manners by French Code Civil or German BGB (or rather Pandektenwissenschaft tradition)...


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Postby Utceforp » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:41 am

Untaroicht wrote:
Utceforp wrote:The Byzantines were a rump state that really spent most of their existence losing territory. If you're going to vote for Rome, vote for the continent-spanning empire. That's just common sense.


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They flourished culturally and scientifically during the medieval era while the rest of Europe was in the dark ages, enough to rival the islamic golden age.

Okay, good point.
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Postby Vellosia » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:43 am

In modern times and in respect to size, it would have to be the British Empire without a doubt.

In terms of how enduring their influence? Unquestionably the Roman Empire; it's impact is still felt across the globe to this day.
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