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Should Hank Bauer have been suspended?

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Chargers Announcer Suspended Over Jewish Stereotype Joke

Postby Greater Weselton » Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:42 pm

San Diego Chargers announcer Hank Bauer was suspended for making a Jewish stereotype joke on the air to his partner Josh Lewin, who is Jewish. The article is here:http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/aug/25/chargers-hank-bauer-anti-semitic-joke-radio/ Do you think he should have been suspended? I don't think so since it was an innocent joke that meant no harm. What do you say NSG?
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Postby Lies and Ignorance » Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:44 pm

Facing the consequences of one's racism is the right thing to do.
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Postby Greater Weselton » Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:45 pm

Lies and Ignorance wrote:Facing the consequences of one's racism is the right thing to do.

He wasn't being racist. It was a good natured joke.
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Postby Kelinfort » Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:48 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
Lies and Ignorance wrote:Facing the consequences of one's racism is the right thing to do.

He wasn't being racist. It was a good natured joke.

But then again you know how copper wire was invented? Somebody dropped a penny between Josh and his family member.


I'm conflicted on whether he should be suspended, but that's not good natured.
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Postby Lies and Ignorance » Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:48 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
Lies and Ignorance wrote:Facing the consequences of one's racism is the right thing to do.

He wasn't being racist. It was a good natured joke.

Most reasonable people would see "anti-Semitic" and "good-natured" as mutually exclusive categories.
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Postby Greater Weselton » Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:49 pm

Lies and Ignorance wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:He wasn't being racist. It was a good natured joke.

Most reasonable people would see "anti-Semitic" and "good-natured" as mutually exclusive categories.

Bauer was just joking with his longtime Jewish friend.
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Postby The Sotoan Union » Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:50 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
Lies and Ignorance wrote:Facing the consequences of one's racism is the right thing to do.

He wasn't being racist. It was a good natured joke.

How is a racist joke good natured?

Why is it that whenever we have these threads, the poster is always defending the racist comment? Do they care more than the people who found it offensive? Is that why they are the only ones who post these things?
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:50 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
Lies and Ignorance wrote:Most reasonable people would see "anti-Semitic" and "good-natured" as mutually exclusive categories.

Bauer was just joking with his longtime Jewish friend.


On the air. With an audience of...I don't know, there must be at least a few dozen of my fellow Chargers fans out there.

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Postby Lies and Ignorance » Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:51 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
Lies and Ignorance wrote:Most reasonable people would see "anti-Semitic" and "good-natured" as mutually exclusive categories.

Bauer was just joking with his longtime Jewish friend.

Bauer was being a twit, and I admire Lewin's dignity in reaction to that embarrassing mess.
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Postby Greater Weselton » Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:52 pm

The Sotoan Union wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:He wasn't being racist. It was a good natured joke.

How is a racist joke good natured?

Why is it that whenever we have these threads, the poster is always defending the racist comment? Do they care more than the people who found it offensive? Is that why they are the only ones who post these things?

He was friends with Lewin. People sometimes are politically incorrect while joking with their friends. I am against political correctness, but I am anti-racist.
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Postby SaintB » Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:53 pm

Its in their contracts that they cannot make disparaging remarks based one sex, ethnicity, or religion while broadcasting. He broke the rule he got punished.
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Postby Gingeska » Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:57 pm

Is it just me or did he not even say the words "Jew" or "Jews". He just said " This guy and his family ".


I think it's all you guys that are racist associating this with Jews.

Fuckin racists.

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Postby Greater Weselton » Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:58 pm

Gingeska wrote:Is it just me or did he not even say the words "Jew" or "Jews". He just said " This guy and his family ".


I think it's all you guys that are racist associating this with Jews.

Fuckin racists.

Josh Lewin is Jewish.
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Postby Burleson » Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:59 pm

What he did was wrong, but it doesn't warrant suspension.
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Postby Gauthier » Fri Aug 29, 2014 7:59 pm

Gingeska wrote:Is it just me or did he not even say the words "Jew" or "Jews". He just said " This guy and his family ".


I think it's all you guys that are racist associating this with Jews.

Fuckin racists.


"Between Josh and his family". Josh Levin is Jewish. Reading is Fundamental.
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Postby Faschist Deutsch Reich » Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:00 pm

The Sotoan Union wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:He wasn't being racist. It was a good natured joke.

How is a racist joke good natured?

Why is it that whenever we have these threads, the poster is always defending the racist comment? Do they care more than the people who found it offensive? Is that why they are the only ones who post these things?

Jews are not a race, therefore there was no racist joke.
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Postby The Sotoan Union » Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:02 pm

Faschist Deutsch Reich wrote:
The Sotoan Union wrote:How is a racist joke good natured?

Why is it that whenever we have these threads, the poster is always defending the racist comment? Do they care more than the people who found it offensive? Is that why they are the only ones who post these things?

Jews are not a race, therefore there was no racist joke.

The television officials would disagree with you. They're the reason he was suspended.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:03 pm

Faschist Deutsch Reich wrote:
The Sotoan Union wrote:How is a racist joke good natured?

Why is it that whenever we have these threads, the poster is always defending the racist comment? Do they care more than the people who found it offensive? Is that why they are the only ones who post these things?

Jews are not a race, therefore there was no racist joke.


Oh, for fuck's sake. It was an ethnic joke, which is just as unacceptable in a sports announcer. Is that hair split finely enough for you now, or would you prefer to continue to pick apart semantics some more rather than address the appropriateness of the comment and the suspension?

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Postby Gauthier » Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:03 pm

The Sotoan Union wrote:
Faschist Deutsch Reich wrote:Jews are not a race, therefore there was no racist joke.

The television officials would disagree with you. They're the reason he was suspended.


And Germany was just being sectarian in the 1930s and 40s.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:04 pm

Faschist Deutsch Reich wrote:
The Sotoan Union wrote:How is a racist joke good natured?

Why is it that whenever we have these threads, the poster is always defending the racist comment? Do they care more than the people who found it offensive? Is that why they are the only ones who post these things?

Jews are not a race, therefore there was no racist joke.

Who better than a Nazi to argue the semantics of racism?
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Postby Burleson » Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:05 pm

Faschist Deutsch Reich wrote:
The Sotoan Union wrote:How is a racist joke good natured?

Why is it that whenever we have these threads, the poster is always defending the racist comment? Do they care more than the people who found it offensive? Is that why they are the only ones who post these things?

Jews are not a race, therefore there was no racist joke.

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Postby SaintB » Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:07 pm

All else aside he violated policy connected to his job and was punished and all the rest is moot.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:08 pm

Burleson wrote:
Faschist Deutsch Reich wrote:Jews are not a race, therefore there was no racist joke.

Thank you!!! :clap:

Because a joke that is offensive to Jewish people is totally fine as long as it isn't racist, amirite?
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:09 pm

Burleson wrote:
Faschist Deutsch Reich wrote:Jews are not a race, therefore there was no racist joke.

Thank you!!! :clap:


For what? For attempting to distract from the actual topic at hand with meaningless hairsplitting? That seems odd.

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Postby Burleson » Fri Aug 29, 2014 8:11 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Burleson wrote:Thank you!!! :clap:

Because a joke that is offensive to Jewish people is totally fine as long as it isn't racist, amirite?

No, I'm talking about the fact that Jewish is a religion, not a race.
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