(DRAFT) Repeal "Food Welfare Act"

[Soviet republicss (Ancient)]

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #52: Food Welfare Act (Category: Social Justice; Strength: Strong) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument:

THE WORLD ASSEMBLY

RECOGNIZING: Income inequality occuring in many WA countries

RECOGNIZING: Starvation occurring despite the abundance of food

NOTING: This resolution fails to solve the problem caused by private enterprise's hoarding of food

NOTING: This resolution fails to note that in prosperous nations, starvation still occurs due to class and income inequality

REALIZING: WA intervention is necessary on some occasions

NOTING: That this flawed legislation bars a more effective resolution from passage.

SEEKING:The opportunity to introduce a more effective version of this resolution to the World Assembly.

[Soviet republicss (Ancient)]

What the hell this was taken down and I don't know why

[Normlpeople]

OOC: From my post in the illegal proposal thread: you forgot to actually repeal the resolution in your proposal text. May wish to read the rules/FAQ again, specifically 'operative clauses'.

Edit: non-official opinion of course. Not a mod and all. Though I believe they send you a telegram explaining why they took it down. .

[Soviet republicss (Ancient)]

I don't see how? Should I re submit by adding that the resolution is hereby repealed?

[Normlpeople]

I don't see how? Should I re submit by adding that the resolution is hereby repealed?

OOC: That would be a start... An operative clause is needed, in repeals, that's typically what it is. I would suggest not submitting it yet however, draft it here first and get some feedback.

[Wrapper]

You should debate it here first before posting it again. That's a good way to come up with a robust draft and to garner support for your efforts.

Of course, it's going to take a much stronger argument for us to vote against this resolution, so, start the debate!

[Soviet republicss (Ancient)]

Thoughts are welcome but I have a lot of support for the repeal but I need to know how i should revise it so it isn't an illegal proposal

[Point Breeze]

For starters, you should add, "HEREBY repeals General Assembly Resolution #52"

You'll also need to flush out your argument as to why the act fails to do its job. What specifically does it do wrong that some other resolution on the subject could do better? Just saying it doesn't work isn't going to cut it.

[District XIV]

I have a lot of support for the repeal

From who?

[Soviet republicss (Ancient)]

All of the delegates who voted for it before it was taken down....and if it is repealed I have a second piece of legislation I will propose to replace it

[District XIV]

All of the delegates who voted for it before it was taken down....and if it is repealed I have a second piece of legislation I will propose to replace it

Notice how all of those delegates were not representative of large or bigger regions.

[Soviet republicss (Ancient)]

I would like to know the opposing argument

[District XIV]

Ambassador Vilay slowly reaches into his shirt pocket, slowly pulling out a red pen. He sighs and begins to write:

RECOGNIZING: Income inequality occuring in many WA countries
Where are these "many WA countries"?
RECOGNIZING: Starvation occurring despite the abundance of food
Uhh...
NOTING: This resolution fails to solve the problem caused by private enterprise's hoarding of food
When does that happen?
NOTING: This resolution fails to note that in prosperous nations, starvation still occurs due to class and income inequality
Not here, and most likely not in similar "prosperous nations".
REALIZING: WA intervention is necessary on some occasions
Irrelevant fluff.
NOTING: That this flawed legislation bars a more effective resolution from passage.
It does but it doesn't.
SEEKING:The opportunity to introduce a more effective version of this resolution to the World Assembly.
Then write one that covers all the issues the other one didn't.

[Soviet republicss (Ancient)]

Lol you fly the hammer and sickle you should be against capitalism

[Defwa]

All of the delegates who voted for it before it was taken down....and if it is repealed I have a second piece of legislation I will propose to replace it

There are a number of delegates that we call the rubber stamp brigade. They will approve everything without reading it and their opinions don't really mean anything.

[Soviet republicss (Ancient)]

What I meant to say was that the act contains a clause that specifically states governments hoarding food alright I agree buy what about private enterprise? Food companies theres an abundance of food plenty to go around but the working class and poor go hungry because they don't have enough money to pay for food catch my drift? This act fails to acknowledge that I am trying to liberate those people from starvation by repealing this act and replacing it with a new resolution

[Soviet republicss (Ancient)]

Any suggestions on what I can add are appreciated I'm open to new ideas

[Lexicor]

Ambassador Braussard, fresh from the frontlines against the ALF-PSUP insurgency, runs into the first debate hall he sees.

RECOGNIZING: Income inequality occurring in many WA countries

And income inequality is necessarily a bad thing? I find that it serves as a motivating factor to get ahead.

RECOGNIZING: Starvation occurring despite the abundance of food

It could also occur due to poor crop harvests, overpopulation etc... The problems with food vary between from nation to nation and thus should be left for nations/regions to work out independently.

NOTING: This resolution fails to solve the problem caused by private enterprise's hoarding of food

Evidence please Ambassador. The WA is a place for facts and not speculation.

NOTING: This resolution fails to note that in prosperous nations, starvation still occurs due to class and income inequality

This certainly does not happen here in Lexicor. And when it did it was because of equality policies like the ones I am sure you are proposing.

REALIZING: WA intervention is necessary on some occasions

Yes, but certainly not on this case.

NOTING: That this flawed legislation bars a more effective resolution from passage.

Even though I have issues with the resolution, it is certainly better than what the current politik in the festering snakepit would support passing!

SEEKING:The opportunity to introduce a more effective version of this resolution to the World Assembly.

Congratulations! Now go actually... write this supposedly more effective version? And maybe, take a look at the Secretariat rulings [GA Proposal Rules].

A few formatting tips.

1. Most resolutions begin with: "The General Assembly,"
2. When ending a preamble clause, please in the future use a comma (,)
3. When ending operative clauses, please use a semi-colon (;)
4. Your last clause and only your last clause should end with a period.

[Defwa]

What I meant to say was that the act contains a clause that specifically states governments hoarding food alright I agree buy what about private enterprise? Food companies theres an abundance of food plenty to go around but the working class and poor go hungry because they don't have enough money to pay for food catch my drift? This act fails to acknowledge that I am trying to liberate those people from starvation by repealing this act and replacing it with a new resolution

Without seeing your alternative, I can't say that I support this.
Really, my concern with the food welfare act is its potential interference with emergency stockpiling of food.

There really is no reason you could not author a complementary resolution that fills in this concerns of yours. But I do hope you're not trying to instate price controls because I... well that was a lie, trainwrecks are fun to watch.
Oh, and I thought of a reason for not writing another proposal. You're new here, and I understand that you're enthusiastic. However its generally advisable to participate in existing debates so you can learn to look at your own proposal critically and get an idea for what other ambassadors are looking for.

[Normlpeople]

Thoughts are welcome but I have a lot of support for the repeal but I need to know how i should revise it so it isn't an illegal proposal

Last OOC comment, Clover can speak officially from this point. You may well have 'lots of support' for your repeal, but keep in mind there are many NatSov nations who will vote to repeal anything, since they want no WA legislation. Will you have the same support for your repeal? We don't know what the replacement draft is, or if it is even legal (I understand you hate capitalism, but you can't ban it outside your own nations borders). Would the multiverse be better off without this legislation and no replacement (a very likely outcome should the repeal succeed)?

There are many larger and more powerful delegates that will refuse to support an R&R without seeing the replacement first. Perhaps posting it (in a separate thread for debate) will assist your cause.

[Soviet republicss (Ancient)]

Comrade thank you for your writing suggestion first of all and excuse my poor grammar I am on a mobile device writing this but the first thing you said was about income inequality? My response is well what about child abuse? It toughens up children later in life so it must be okay right? And as for private enterprise I am speaking of working class families who have to decide between paying rent and buying food. Here in the Soviet republicss all you have to do to eat is be a citizen you are entitled to food and if you have problems with this resolution tell me what your problems are and how you suggest we replace it. I would love to work together

[Soviet republicss (Ancient)]

I'm not trying to ban capitalism ambassador I'm trying to get food to every citizen in the WA

[Soviet republicss (Ancient)]

One could however argue that capitalism isn't an ideology, its an economic system.

[Araraukar]

OOC: *gentle cough* You might want to edit all your responses into a single post rather than making 3 posts one after the other. It helps to keep the thread from getting cluttered with a billion posts.

[Separatist Peoples]

"If you tried to get rid of the blatant communist blather, you might have a coherent proposal. As it stands, forcing private enterprises to give up their stocks to feed the hungry isn't an international issue, and the bill in question does an adequate job of addressing intentional hoarding. Give this up, take some time to learn how the General Assembly picks appropriate topics, and try again. You may yet end up with something workable."