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Your Solution to ISIL?

Postby -Arabiyah- » Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:49 am

This is my solution it may not make sense to non-Muslims
>Sunni,Shia,or Sufi we are all Muslims
>Sistani is a liar
>Abu Zaraqawi was kicked from Al-Qeada
>ISIL is not a caliphate
>America should Help Assad
>Hezballah need to make a western and northern advance in Syria
>Al-Maliki and the Iraqi government should fall and a Islamic Theocracy should take over
>Or have Iran Annex Iraq
>And Russian Military personal to enter Syria
>Along with North Korean
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Postby Soselo » Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:52 am

Perhaps deism would be an apt solution for that problem.
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Postby -Arabiyah- » Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:53 am

Soselo wrote:Perhaps deism would be an apt solution for that problem.


Perhaps a serious answer -.-
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Postby Nervium » Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:56 am

How is "send in the Russians" a solution?
HOW THE HELL IS NORTH KOREA GOING TO HELP? BUILD CONCENTRATION CAMPS? :palm:
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Postby Bulgar Rouge » Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:56 am

My solution to ISIL/ISIS ? I've said it before and I'll say it again - kill them all.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:58 am

Why should North Korea become involved in Syria?
How even would they?

My personal opinion is that the west needs to re-intervene in Iraq. Fuck the public opinion, we broke this, we need to fix it. From there, secure the Syrian border. Do not intervene in Syria. We had a viable chance for that two years ago, and we blew it, it's now completely impractical to do so.
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Postby Soselo » Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:58 am

-Arabiyah- wrote:
Soselo wrote:Perhaps deism would be an apt solution for that problem.


Perhaps a serious answer -.-

Is your idea of serious so limited to physical war and abuse, rather than its spiritual forms?
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Postby Soselo » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:01 am

Bulgar Rouge wrote:My solution to ISIL/ISIS ? I've said it before and I'll say it again - kill them all.

I do not make claims upon the salutariness of "killing people", having not ever had it done to me.
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Postby Allentyr » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:05 am

Bomb them. Bomb them to hell and back.
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Postby Soselo » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:09 am

Allentyr wrote:Bomb them. Bomb them to hell and back.

How about you actually think about what I say before you post the worst possible answer?
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Postby Allentyr » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:14 am

Soselo wrote:
Allentyr wrote:Bomb them. Bomb them to hell and back.

How about you actually think about what I say before you post the worst possible answer?


Well, your answer of "deism" doesn't work very well when they're die hard radicals.
Bombing them, however, does.
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Postby -Arabiyah- » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:15 am

Nervium wrote:How is "send in the Russians" a solution?
HOW THE HELL IS NORTH KOREA GOING TO HELP? BUILD CONCENTRATION CAMPS? :palm:


Russia has one of the largest armies on earth. We need Assad to defend us Shias and to protect Lebanon and Palestine as soon as he stops doing that we will fight him.
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Postby Allentyr » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:17 am

-Arabiyah- wrote:
Nervium wrote:How is "send in the Russians" a solution?
HOW THE HELL IS NORTH KOREA GOING TO HELP? BUILD CONCENTRATION CAMPS? :palm:


Russia has one of the largest armies on earth. We need Assad to defend us Shias and to protect Lebanon and Palestine as soon as he stops doing that we will fight him.


Wow. Backstab. Ouch. And what's in it in for him to protect Lebanon and Palestine once Syria's safe, really?
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Postby Soselo » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:17 am

Allentyr wrote:
Soselo wrote:How about you actually think about what I say before you post the worst possible answer?


Well, your answer of "deism" doesn't work very well when they're die hard radicals.
Bombing them, however, does.

Precisely; your outlook is no different than the murderers and rapists you presume to violently condemn.
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:17 am

In 1924, Hussein bin Ali of the House of Hashim, Sharif and Emir of Mecca, declared himself Caliph of Islam following the abolition of the Ottoman Caliphate. If Caliph Hussein's legitimate successor was to be proclaimed as the next Caliph, it would establish a rival caliphate with greater historical legitimacy and acceptance from existing Islamic states, stealing the wind from al-Baghdadi's sails. The Hashemite family are also known to be more moderate and pro-Western than extremist groups like the terrorist organisation formerly known as ISIS and al-Qaeda, as exemplified by the Hashemite King of Jordan, King Abdullah II. Many Muslims in the Middle East consider the dissolution of the Caliphate to have been an insult to Islam, so re-establishing it would probably strip extremists of one of their key propaganda pieces. The Hashemite Caliphate needn't be a single unified state, but serve a role similar to the papacy as the supreme spiritual leader for Sunni Muslims and as a court of appeal for disputes between Sunni Muslim nations- as well as playing a role in advancing a peaceful interpretation of Islam against the violent perversion of the faith espoused by radicals and hate preachers.

Also, the Hashemite monarchies of Iraq and Syria should be restored. As the heir to both thrones is currently His Royal Highness Prince Ra'ad bin Zeid, this would result in a personal union between Syria and Iraq. The unified constitutional monarchy of Iraq and Syria, together with the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, would then form a key pillar of support for a Hashemite Caliph.
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Postby Baltenstein » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:20 am

@ OP:

Oh wow, it's Muslim infighting proposal # 53523523532589324. That will make things better.

How about "Religion is and always should stay a personal matter"? Too much to ask?
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Postby -Arabiyah- » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:23 am

Allentyr wrote:
-Arabiyah- wrote:
Russia has one of the largest armies on earth. We need Assad to defend us Shias and to protect Lebanon and Palestine as soon as he stops doing that we will fight him.


Wow. Backstab. Ouch. And what's in it in for him to protect Lebanon and Palestine once Syria's safe, really?


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Postby Soselo » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:23 am

Baltenstein wrote:@ OP:

Oh wow, it's Muslim infighting proposal # 53523523532589324. That will make things better.

How about "Religion is and always should stay a personal matter"? Too much to ask?

It never will be; as it is actually taught to children.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:24 am

-Arabiyah- wrote:
Nervium wrote:How is "send in the Russians" a solution?
HOW THE HELL IS NORTH KOREA GOING TO HELP? BUILD CONCENTRATION CAMPS? :palm:


Russia has one of the largest armies on earth. We need Assad to defend us Shias and to protect Lebanon and Palestine as soon as he stops doing that we will fight him.

Russia's not big on actually invading the Middle East, what with being threatened by nuclear escalation in the Arab-Israeli conflicts, Afghanistan and now this new thing of whenever Russia tries to intervene in its interest, the west soundly roundhouse kicks them in the face for it, while gallivanting around down it in their own interest.
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Postby Allentyr » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:25 am

Soselo wrote:
Allentyr wrote:
Well, your answer of "deism" doesn't work very well when they're die hard radicals.
Bombing them, however, does.

Precisely; your outlook is no different than the murderers and rapists you presume to violently condemn.


No, it's not and I recognize that. Still, you can't convert them, they are in a frenzy. And peace will not work, for they will not stop until their goals are met or they die trying. What do you suppose we do? Let them run around freely and do whatever the fuck they want and hope they want peace?
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:25 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:In 1924, Hussein bin Ali of the House of Hashim, Sharif and Emir of Mecca, declared himself Caliph of Islam following the abolition of the Ottoman Caliphate. If Caliph Hussein's legitimate successor was to be proclaimed as the next Caliph, it would establish a rival caliphate with greater historical legitimacy and acceptance from existing Islamic states, stealing the wind from al-Baghdadi's sails. The Hashemite family are also known to be more moderate and pro-Western than extremist groups like the terrorist organisation formerly known as ISIS and al-Qaeda, as exemplified by the Hashemite King of Jordan, King Abdullah II. Many Muslims in the Middle East consider the dissolution of the Caliphate to have been an insult to Islam, so re-establishing it would probably strip extremists of one of their key propaganda pieces. The Hashemite Caliphate needn't be a single unified state, but serve a role similar to the papacy as the supreme spiritual leader for Sunni Muslims and as a court of appeal for disputes between Sunni Muslim nations- as well as playing a role in advancing a peaceful interpretation of Islam against the violent perversion of the faith espoused by radicals and hate preachers.

Also, the Hashemite monarchies of Iraq and Syria should be restored. As the heir to both thrones is currently His Royal Highness Prince Ra'ad bin Zeid, this would result in a personal union between Syria and Iraq. The unified constitutional monarchy of Iraq and Syria, together with the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, would then form a key pillar of support for a Hashemite Caliph.

Good idea... I didn't think of that.
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Postby -Arabiyah- » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:29 am

Muslims are using Assad for our own interests he's an Alawite not even a Real Muslim. All he does is give stuff to Hamas and PLO. Also he protects Lebanon since the 80's so if he Falls Hamad will lose money and weapons making it easier for Israel to attack and also Lebanon would become a easier target for Israel. If Assad wins this won't happen than we can take him down and have the Grand Mufti of Damascus take over or a Shaykh.
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Postby Soselo » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:33 am

Allentyr wrote:
Soselo wrote:Precisely; your outlook is no different than the murderers and rapists you presume to violently condemn.


No, it's not and I recognize that. Still, you can't convert them, they are in a frenzy. And peace will not work, for they will not stop until their goals are met or they die trying. What do you suppose we do? Let them run around freely and do whatever the fuck they want and hope they want peace?
I never said it would ensure peace, though ignoring the undercurrents of disdain some seem to feel for others in general would be an excellent sail forth. Peace is possible though people are not inclined to be apathetic enough for it.
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Postby Kuzestan » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:33 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:In 1924, Hussein bin Ali of the House of Hashim, Sharif and Emir of Mecca, declared himself Caliph of Islam following the abolition of the Ottoman Caliphate. If Caliph Hussein's legitimate successor was to be proclaimed as the next Caliph, it would establish a rival caliphate with greater historical legitimacy and acceptance from existing Islamic states, stealing the wind from al-Baghdadi's sails. The Hashemite family are also known to be more moderate and pro-Western than extremist groups like the terrorist organisation formerly known as ISIS and al-Qaeda, as exemplified by the Hashemite King of Jordan, King Abdullah II. Many Muslims in the Middle East consider the dissolution of the Caliphate to have been an insult to Islam, so re-establishing it would probably strip extremists of one of their key propaganda pieces. The Hashemite Caliphate needn't be a single unified state, but serve a role similar to the papacy as the supreme spiritual leader for Sunni Muslims and as a court of appeal for disputes between Sunni Muslim nations- as well as playing a role in advancing a peaceful interpretation of Islam against the violent perversion of the faith espoused by radicals and hate preachers.

Also, the Hashemite monarchies of Iraq and Syria should be restored. As the heir to both thrones is currently His Royal Highness Prince Ra'ad bin Zeid, this would result in a personal union between Syria and Iraq. The unified constitutional monarchy of Iraq and Syria, together with the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, would then form a key pillar of support for a Hashemite Caliph.

Except that the Sharifian Caliphate didn't receive a lot of recognition from the Muslim world at that time, and the successor decided to throw away the title of Caliph. And, as a Muslim living in a muslim majority country, pro-caliphate movement isn't very trendy here.

Also, there hasn't been any pro monarchist movement in a non-monarchic country in the Middle east either.
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Postby Estado Paulista » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:34 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:In 1924, Hussein bin Ali of the House of Hashim, Sharif and Emir of Mecca, declared himself Caliph of Islam following the abolition of the Ottoman Caliphate. If Caliph Hussein's legitimate successor was to be proclaimed as the next Caliph, it would establish a rival caliphate with greater historical legitimacy and acceptance from existing Islamic states, stealing the wind from al-Baghdadi's sails. The Hashemite family are also known to be more moderate and pro-Western than extremist groups like the terrorist organisation formerly known as ISIS and al-Qaeda, as exemplified by the Hashemite King of Jordan, King Abdullah II. Many Muslims in the Middle East consider the dissolution of the Caliphate to have been an insult to Islam, so re-establishing it would probably strip extremists of one of their key propaganda pieces. The Hashemite Caliphate needn't be a single unified state, but serve a role similar to the papacy as the supreme spiritual leader for Sunni Muslims and as a court of appeal for disputes between Sunni Muslim nations- as well as playing a role in advancing a peaceful interpretation of Islam against the violent perversion of the faith espoused by radicals and hate preachers.

Also, the Hashemite monarchies of Iraq and Syria should be restored. As the heir to both thrones is currently His Royal Highness Prince Ra'ad bin Zeid, this would result in a personal union between Syria and Iraq. The unified constitutional monarchy of Iraq and Syria, together with the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, would then form a key pillar of support for a Hashemite Caliph.


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