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Why modern Western Nations hate Communism?

Postby Soviet Communist » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:20 pm

Why are modern western cultures like the United States or France hateful towards Communism or even Socialism in general? If someone learns that you are a Communist, they are like, "Oh, well I don't think I should get into that." They call you crazy or unpatriotic, but isn't that what America is? Isn't it a place where no matter what you believe in, you have the right to be that way? "Well, this new President is just about as bad as a Communist!" or "Get rid of the God d*** Commies!" are common statements. Although not many are Communist, they are terribly ridiculed and discriminated by the media and just the general public. We don't say, "Oh my God? You are a Republican? They're just a bunch of crackpots!" It is not fair how Communists and Socialist are treated.

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Postby Gaelic Celtia » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:23 pm

Soviet Communist wrote:Why are modern western cultures like the United States or France hateful towards Communism or even Socialism in general? If someone learns that you are a Communist, they are like, "Oh, well I don't think I should get into that." They call you crazy or unpatriotic, but isn't that what America is? Isn't it a place where no matter what you believe in, you have the right to be that way? "Well, this new President is just about as bad as a Communist!" or "Get rid of the God d*** Commies!" are common statements. Although not many are Communist, they are terribly ridiculed and discriminated by the media and just the general public. We don't say, "Oh my God? You are a Republican? They're just a bunch of crackpots!" It is not fair how Communists and Socialist are treated.

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France? Hateful towards socialism? Since when?

And it is probably due to the bad reputation it gets from the people who warped communism in the 20th century.
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Postby Organized States » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:23 pm

It's idealogical sentiment left over from the Cold War, which will never really subside...
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Postby Greater Bosna (Ancient) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:24 pm

France is socialist...
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:25 pm

because millions have died in the name of Communist revolutions... and this is especially well-known from the Cold War.

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Postby Aushanit » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:26 pm

Well the Cold War has nothing to do with /Sarcasm.

When you've basically had a war based on ideological lines you tend not to like that ideology. The dames for communist who for the most part dislike western style democracy. While the an amosite really has no reason to exist it is just such an aspect of our culture considering the West was at war with communism for a good 50 years.

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Postby Keventle » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:26 pm

Well you can thank Stalin for most of it. In the western eyes, most seem him as an ass. Secondly Capitalism has been extremely dominate in the western world compared to eastern countries. Third, correct me if Im wrong, but France is really close to Socialism.

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Postby Greater Bosna (Ancient) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:26 pm

Keventle wrote:Well you can thank Stalin for most of it. In the western eyes, most seem him as an ass. Secondly Capitalism has been extremely dominate in the western world compared to eastern countries. Third, correct me if Im wrong, but France is really close to Socialism.

Ruled by a socialist party.
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Postby Slavaska » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:26 pm

Organized States wrote:It's idealogical sentiment left over from the Cold War, which will never really subside...
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Soviet Communist wrote:Why are modern western cultures like the United States or France hateful towards Communism or even Socialism in general? If someone learns that you are a Communist, they are like, "Oh, well I don't think I should get into that." They call you crazy or unpatriotic, but isn't that what America is? Isn't it a place where no matter what you believe in, you have the right to be that way? "Well, this new President is just about as bad as a Communist!" or "Get rid of the God d*** Commies!" are common statements. Although not many are Communist, they are terribly ridiculed and discriminated by the media and just the general public. We don't say, "Oh my God? You are a Republican? They're just a bunch of crackpots!" It is not fair how Communists and Socialist are treated.

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France? Hateful towards socialism? Since when?

And it is probably due to the bad reputation it gets from the people who warped communism in the 20th century.



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Postby New haven america » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:27 pm

The Cold War(Stalin and Mao too)
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Postby Keventle » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:27 pm

New haven america wrote:The Cold War(Stalin and Mao too)

*Flinches at the name of Mao*

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Postby Bojikami » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:28 pm

The same reason why hate generally exists. Lack of education on the subject.
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Postby Aushanit » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:28 pm

Greater Bosna wrote:
Keventle wrote:Well you can thank Stalin for most of it. In the western eyes, most seem him as an ass. Secondly Capitalism has been extremely dominate in the western world compared to eastern countries. Third, correct me if Im wrong, but France is really close to Socialism.

Ruled by a socialist party.

Please it's at best a social democracy party which is really just social progressivism with mix market tendencies economically. That is in no way socialism.

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Postby UCR Bloodia » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:28 pm

Greater Bosna wrote:France is socialist...

Since when?

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Postby Greater Bosna (Ancient) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:28 pm

Aushanit wrote:
Greater Bosna wrote:Ruled by a socialist party.

Please it's at best a social democracy party which is really just social progressivism with mix market tendencies economically. That is in no way socialism.

I said France is ruled by a socialist party?
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Postby United States of Natan » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:30 pm

Soviet Communist wrote:Why are modern western cultures like the United States or France hateful towards Communism or even Socialism in general? If someone learns that you are a Communist, they are like, "Oh, well I don't think I should get into that." They call you crazy or unpatriotic, but isn't that what America is? Isn't it a place where no matter what you believe in, you have the right to be that way? "Well, this new President is just about as bad as a Communist!" or "Get rid of the God d*** Commies!" are common statements. Although not many are Communist, they are terribly ridiculed and discriminated by the media and just the general public. We don't say, "Oh my God? You are a Republican? They're just a bunch of crackpots!" It is not fair how Communists and Socialist are treated.

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1. Because Communism is an ideology inherently against freedom. It doesn't allow the freedom to own a business, and can keep many people poor, and can cause other economic issues as a result, such as inflation. It can also restrict other rights, and its very easy for someone to take over and become a dictator. Like reaganomics, it appears to work on paper, but in real life, when actually implemented, has disastrous results.

2. For the record, most republicans are not that far right. we call tea partiers crackpots, because they are too far right. just like the communists are too far left.
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Postby Shie » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:30 pm

State-Communism can't work but anarcho-communism just may.

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Postby Keventle » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:31 pm

Shie wrote:State-Communism can't work but anarcho-communism just may.

This might stir a few Communists out of their grave.

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Postby Master Shake » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:32 pm

Organized States wrote:It's idealogical sentiment left over from the Cold War, which will never really subside...


I agree.Those commies put my families in gulags and then raped Hungary in 1944 and again in 1956.

Plus a lot of people escaped the Eastern Bloc and became Americans,Canadians or Australians.So thats where the hate comes from.Those who escaped the evils of the USSR.
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Postby Souriya Al-Assad » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:32 pm

Soviet Communist wrote:Why are modern western cultures like the United States or France hateful towards Communism or even Socialism in general? If someone learns that you are a Communist, they are like, "Oh, well I don't think I should get into that." They call you crazy or unpatriotic, but isn't that what America is? Isn't it a place where no matter what you believe in, you have the right to be that way? "Well, this new President is just about as bad as a Communist!" or "Get rid of the God d*** Commies!" are common statements. Although not many are Communist, they are terribly ridiculed and discriminated by the media and just the general public. We don't say, "Oh my God? You are a Republican? They're just a bunch of crackpots!" It is not fair how Communists and Socialist are treated.

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Because of the intensive reprogramming that McCarthyism, Operation Mockingbird, Gladio, Ajax, MKUltra, neo-liberals & neo-conservatives have injected into our Western countries. Because of the NATO monopolisation of the mass merdias.

I at least have refused to allow myself to submit to the lies demonising Communism. I am eternally a proud anti-Revisionist Communist.

Furthermore, to address what some claim whence they say, "Being communist is unpatriotic", well, left-wing nationalism exists, whilst has also been utilised many times by Communist countries in reality. Communist anti-Colonial movements have been where it has been seen the most.

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Organized States wrote:It's idealogical sentiment left over from the Cold War, which will never really subside...


I agree.Those commies put my families in gulags and then raped Hungary in 1944 and again in 1956.

Plus a lot of people escaped the Eastern Bloc and became Americans,Canadians or Australians.So thats where the hate comes from.Those who escaped the evils of the USSR.

You mean all those reactionaries, as well as those aligned with the Gladio/Ajax stay-behinds, including most notoriously the Ukrainian supporters of Hitler, Horthy, Mussolini, Stephan Bandera, Franco as well as their anti-Soviet propaganda.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:35 pm

Keventle wrote:
New haven america wrote:The Cold War(Stalin and Mao too)

*Flinches at the name of Mao*

Fun fact: If you combine their kill count, both combined have killed around 99 million people.
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Postby Master Shake » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:36 pm

Bojikami wrote:The same reason why hate generally exists. Lack of education on the subject.


No I studied communism and the USSR for years and a lot of people thought I was a communist in school for the books I choose to read.I know why they wanted what they wanted and I know the methods they went to in the name of Communism.I learned as much as I could about the USSR and found no justification for killing over 20,000,000 people and putting millions in gulags.They only killed people who went against their form of communism and had no problems letting a murderer serve a five year sentence in a gulag,but someone who is anti'-communist got a death sentence for speaking out against their regime...

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Keventle wrote:*Flinches at the name of Mao*

Fun fact: If you combine their kill count, both combined have killed around 99 million people.


Makes the nazi's look like sissies...

Throw in Pol Pot and its over 100,000,000 million deaths... :shock:
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Postby Souriya Al-Assad » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:37 pm

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Greater Bosna wrote:France is socialist...

Since when?

Since never. Our so-called socialist party in recent times has allowed its mask to fall, revealing their pro-Sarkozy, pro-austerity, pro-Merkel Reich, reactionary & revisionist economics face. Putting Manuel Valls in as the new PM also made this mask fall even further.

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Postby Keventle » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:37 pm

New haven america wrote:
Keventle wrote:*Flinches at the name of Mao*

Fun fact: If you combine their kill count, both combined have killed around 99 million people.

Im half way into a biography about him. In a lot of ways he reminds me of Hitler, but thats not for here.

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Postby Gaelic Celtia » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:37 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:because millions have died in the name of Communist revolutions... and this is especially well-known from the Cold War.

And yet how many people did America kill in it's name yet it does not face the same hostilites.
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