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Should African-Americans Leave America, If Possible ?

Postby Gurgle Snort » Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:54 am

I am writing this because I am seriously considering the question. African-Americans have suffered from low income, cities with littkle to none city wide income to keep the city like European-American cities and other ills. I ask this question NOT that I am some bigot or think or wish African-Americans to leave the United States, but in consideration for the fact that within it's history the African-American community has received such ill treatment.
I know if I was given the chance, I would move. Being with the disabled community, I most certainly would move to a country that was disabled, where the A.D.A was not a joke and I could receive a job as most Americans want. So I can totally understand if an African-American would be of the opinion that moving from the United States would be a good move.
So here it comes: If you are an African-American, would you want to move from the United States ? And whhere do you think you would move?

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Postby Frazers » Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:56 am

I'd be straight off to Liberia to enjoy the many freedoms and all the economic prosperity.....

......

Oh wait shit.

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Postby Gurgle Snort » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:01 am

Frazers wrote:I'd be straight off to Liberia to enjoy the many freedoms and all the economic prosperity.....

......

Oh wait shit.


True. But you wouldn't have to put up with the historical effects of racism.

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Postby Estado Paulista » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:04 am

Gurgle Snort wrote:
Frazers wrote:I'd be straight off to Liberia to enjoy the many freedoms and all the economic prosperity.....

......

Oh wait shit.


True. But you wouldn't have to put up with the historical effects of racism.


Except there are a lot of ethnic tensions between Americo-Liberians and native ethnic groups in Liberia
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Postby Avenio » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:05 am

Gurgle Snort wrote:
Frazers wrote:I'd be straight off to Liberia to enjoy the many freedoms and all the economic prosperity.....

......

Oh wait shit.


True. But you wouldn't have to put up with the historical effects of racism.


Yes, because Africa definitely hasn't had to deal with the problems generated by racist colonial overlords.

Oh... wait...

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Postby Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:06 am

They are just as American as everyone else in this country.
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Postby Estado Paulista » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:08 am

Frazers wrote:I'd be straight off to Liberia to enjoy the many freedoms and all the economic prosperity.....

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Oh wait shit.


Well, to be fair, their economy seems to be improving, and because of help from the UN, things have remained relatively stable since the end of the Second Civil War. They're still one of the poorest countries in Africa, though.
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Postby Distruzio » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:08 am

Gurgle Snort wrote:I am writing this because I am seriously considering the question. African-Americans have suffered from low income, cities with littkle to none city wide income to keep the city like European-American cities and other ills. I ask this question NOT that I am some bigot or think or wish African-Americans to leave the United States, but in consideration for the fact that within it's history the African-American community has received such ill treatment.
I know if I was given the chance, I would move. Being with the disabled community, I most certainly would move to a country that was disabled, where the A.D.A was not a joke and I could receive a job as most Americans want. So I can totally understand if an African-American would be of the opinion that moving from the United States would be a good move.
So here it comes: If you are an African-American, would you want to move from the United States ? And whhere do you think you would move?


Hell no.

Not because of race.
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Postby L Ron Cupboard » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:10 am

Why reply to a thread by a nation created 20 mins ago, whose motto is "please do not erase me", with a name like "Gurgle Snort"? Couldn't they make it any more obvious? Who goes off-line within minutes of posting their thread.
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Postby Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:11 am

They wouldn't be African American if they left America now, would they? :roll:
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Postby Avenio » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:12 am

L Ron Cupboard wrote:Why reply to a thread by a nation created 20 mins ago, whose motto is "please do not erase me", with a name like "Gurgle Snort"? Couldn't they make it any more obvious?


What, are you saying that Sir Summertime-Noposts von Defaultflag here isn't entirely serious about his provocative thread?!

I'm shocked, shocked, I tell you!

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Postby Squeeheart » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:12 am

Regardless of ethnicity I must say I am not satisfied with this country. I would either move to Japan or Britain, depending on whether or not I could learn how to speak and read in Japanese. From what I understand though the majority of African Americans do not wish to leave America. Although racism is a pain here, it isn't any better in Africa. Even if you take out racial and national tensions there are still the issues of climate and diseases to put up with. Economic opportunity is especially not a reason to move over to Africa (unless your some billionaire of a huge corporation profiting off the poor in those African states, in which case you'd be living in a mansion or palace).

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Postby L Ron Cupboard » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:14 am

Avenio wrote:
L Ron Cupboard wrote:Why reply to a thread by a nation created 20 mins ago, whose motto is "please do not erase me", with a name like "Gurgle Snort"? Couldn't they make it any more obvious?


What, are you saying that Sir Summertime-Noposts von Defaultflag here isn't entirely serious about his provocative thread?!

I'm shocked, shocked, I tell you!


No, I am saying people should know better than to feed trolls.
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Postby Gurgle Snort » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:18 am

L Ron Cupboard wrote:
Avenio wrote:
What, are you saying that Sir Summertime-Noposts von Defaultflag here isn't entirely serious about his provocative thread?!

I'm shocked, shocked, I tell you!


No, I am saying people should know better than to feed trolls.


Sir, excuse me if I have offended you. Sir, I have had problems with Nationstate. Sir, I do not mean to troll. Sir, please except my apology if I have said, did or even thought of doing wrong, Sir. Thank you, Sir.

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Postby Estado Paulista » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:19 am

The things is: no matter how hard black nationalists, Rastafarians and anti-black racists shout, blacks are not going to leave the American continent.

The American government tried to incentive blacks to move to Liberia after the end of the Civil War, and not many of them did. Marcus Garvey financed a few settling expeditions to Liberia in the 1920's and no more than 200 persons moved there. Haile Selassie gave Rastafarians (he was pressured to do it, but still) a few acres of land in Ethiopia and less than 100 people moved there.

Face facts, they're here to stay and even though they were brought to the Americas in a brutal and inhumane way, it's completely safe to say that they belong here.
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Postby Nervium » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:23 am

L Ron Cupboard wrote:Why reply to a thread by a nation created 20 mins ago, whose motto is "please do not erase me", with a name like "Gurgle Snort"? Couldn't they make it any more obvious? Who goes off-line within minutes of posting their thread.


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Postby Hladgos » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:25 am

Too costly to move to another nation unless it's Canada or something. If you want to succeed, you can do it yourself. Granted, blacks have to work their asses off to get anywhere near where white guys are, but it's possible.
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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:26 am

I would move to Europe, but only because America sucks, not because of my race.

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Postby Kyuji » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:31 am

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:I would move to Europe, but only because America sucks, not because of my race.

There is no europe.
And there is no afrika
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Postby Viritica » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:38 am

This is the most unintelligent thing I've ever seen.

Black people can better themselves just like everyone else.
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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:39 am

Kyuji wrote:There is no europe.
And there is no afrika

No, I'm pretty sure that my globe has the words Africa and Europe written on them.

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Postby Pope Joan » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:43 am

Frazers wrote:I'd be straight off to Liberia to enjoy the many freedoms and all the economic prosperity.....

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Oh wait shit.


That was the "happy ending" for Uncle Tom's Cabin.

Having escaped to Canada (a British dominion then), the now free young family decided to go to Liberia.

Some happy ending.
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Postby United Marxist Nations » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:45 am

History has shown that their culture is too different to merge into an African nation. While it is true that they face many difficulties in the US, the cultural and demographic landscape necessitates that they cannot form their own nation; instead, trying to achieve greater equality here is the better option.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:45 am

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:I would move to Europe, but only because America sucks, not because of my race.


^this
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Postby Imperium of the Gliusor Species » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:48 am

Gurgle Snort wrote:I am writing this because I am seriously considering the question. African-Americans have suffered from low income, cities with littkle to none city wide income to keep the city like European-American cities and other ills. I ask this question NOT that I am some bigot or think or wish African-Americans to leave the United States, but in consideration for the fact that within it's history the African-American community has received such ill treatment.
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So here it comes: If you are an African-American, would you want to move from the United States ? And whhere do you think you would move?

Fool, we'd encounter the same problems we have in America, only it wouldn't be those dirty white greedy bastards doing it to us!
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