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(Moved) OOC 1870 REAL-WORLD RP: Sign up and discussion

Postby Shimon-Zhivago » Sat Sep 28, 2013 12:52 pm

THE OP OF THIS RP IS NO LONGER PARTICIPATING. THUS, THIS PAGE IS NO LONGER UPDATED OR VALID. THE PRESENT PLAYERS HAVE STARTED ANOTHER OOC, WHICH CAN BE REACHED THROUGH THE LINK BELOW!






Welcome to the 1870s real-world RP sign-up page! Please read the rules and regulations below! Once you have applied and have been approved, the IC can be reached here: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=264149 .

Here's a brief outline of what is below:
-1- A description of the RP
-2- A map of the RP
-3- A list of countries and their players
-4- Applications for key powers
-5- The application process for non-key power nations
-6- The rules


1870 Real-World RP


It is August of 1870, and several wars across the world are winding down. The Paris Commune has risen in France; Austria has emerged as a dominant world power; Sweden has been forced to give up her colonies; Egypt pushes to expand it's borders.

In this RP, you will be taking control of a nation that existed in the year 1870. Your job is to help that country survive through the turmoil that is world affairs.

Below is the official map of this RP. It shows major powers (with or without players) and nations belonging to players. This map will be updated as often as possible.
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Here's a list of the nations on the map (and their players). This is not a list of the only countries allowed to be played.

Red: British Empire [TAKEN BY: Alleniana]
Blue: Second Empire (France) [TAKEN BY: Kalmath]
Black: Northern German Confederation [TAKEN BY: Jamessonia]
Dark Green: Russian Empire [TAKEN BY: Of the Quendi]
Dark Red: Austria-Hungary [TAKEN BY: Brissa]
Darkest Grey: The United States of America [TAKEN BY: Gibberan]
Pink: Meiji Japan [TAKEN BY: Waztaskio]
Yellow: Kingdom of Spain [TAKEN BY: Bolovia]
Apple Green: Qing China [TAKEN BY: Versail]
Orange: Ottoman Empire [TAKEN BY: Phoenix2012]
True Green: Brazilian Empire [TAKEN BY: Reatra]
Darkest Blue: Republic of Argentina [TAKEN BY: The Time Alliance]
Dull Blue: Kingdom of Italy [TAKEN BY: Cobaltania]
Light Blue: Kingdom of Southern Germany [TAKEN BY: Shimon-Zhivago]
Cream: Mexico [TAKEN BY: Baja California y Sonora]
Spanish Protectorate: Korea [TAKEN BY: Yalos]
Dull Green: Sweden [TAKEN BY: The Norrland]
British Protectorate: Madagascar [TAKEN BY: Saxophonistan]
Red-Orange Dots: Albania [TAKEN BY: Dangelia]
Russian Protectorate: Khiva [TAKEN BY: Kizilkol]
Red-Grey Dots: Siam [TAKEN BY: Zumreed]
Light Puke Green: Orange Free State [TAKEN BY: Gold state]
Dark Puke Green: Transvaal [TAKEN BY: Machtergreifung]
Austrian Protectorate: [TAKEN BY: Kryskov]
Ottoman Protectorate: Egypt [TAKEN BY: Seljuq Kyiv]
Dark Grey: Columbia [TAKEN BY: The Grand Republic of Hannover]


Several powers are essential to the playing of this RP. Keeping this in mind, and in order to help preserve realism, I have constructed application forms for all of them. If you would like to play one of these powers, please view the spoilers in the list below. If not, see instructions for application farther down. Please consider playing a power if any are available. If you are playing one of these powers, I except you to do some more research so that you know your nation inside and out.

British Empire[/b] [TAKEN]
Population (The Isles): 27,500,000
Population (Empire Total): 200,000,000
Standing Military and Reserves: 230,000
Maximum Conscription (Native): 2,200,000
Maximum Conscription (Empire Total): 16,000,000
Country and Territories: http://www.antiquemapsandprints.com/p-16821.jpg
Head of State: Her Majesty the Queen, Alexandrina Victoria
Head of Government: Prime Minister William Ewart Gladstone
Government Style: Constitutional Monarchy
Primary Weapon: Snider-Enfield Rifle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snider-Enfield (1870)
Martini-Henry Rifle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martini-Henry (Starting June, 1871)
Secondary Weapon: Beaumont-Adams Revolver http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaumont-Adams_Revolver
Standard Machine-Gun: Gatling-Gun (limited numbers) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatling_Gu ... a_.26_Asia
Standard Artillery: RBL 12 pounder 8 cwt Armstrong gun http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RBL_12_pou ... strong_gun (1870) Changed to a muzzle-loading variant (1871)
Main Naval Vessels: 40 Ironclads-(1870) 48 Ironclads-(1871) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ir ... .931882.29
Additional Reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Ar ... torian_Era

Second Empire of France [TAKEN]
Population (France): 36,870,000
Population (Empire Total): 60,000,000
Standing Military and Reserves: 800,000
Maximum Conscription (Native): 2,949,600
Maximum Conscription (Empire Total): 4,800,000
Country and Territories: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e ... 870%29.png
Head of State: His Imperial Majesty Napoleon the Third, By the Grace of God and the will of the Nation, Emperor of the French.
Head of Government: Prime Minister Émile Ollivier
Government Style: Authoritarian Democracy
Primary Weapon: Chassepot Rifle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chassepot_rifle
Secondary Weapon: Lefaucheux M1858 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lefaucheux_M1858
Standard Machine-Gun: Mitrailleuse http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitrailleuse
Standard Artillery: Reffye 85 mm cannon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reffye_85mm_cannon
Main Naval Vessels: 27 Ironclads http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ba ... _ironclads
Additional Reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-pru ... ing_forces

Northern German Confederation [TAKEN]
Population (The Confederation): 30,000,000
Standing Military and Reserves: 1,00,000
Maximum Conscription (Native): 1,9600,000
Country and Territories: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Map-NDB.svg
Head of State: His Majesty, the King of Prussia, Wilhelm Friedrich Ludwig
Head of Government: Chancellor Otto von Bismarck
Government Style: Authoritarian Democracy
Primary Weapon: Dreyse Needle-Gun-(1870) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreyse_needle_gun Mauser Model 1871-(Starting in 1871) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauser_Model_1871
Secondary Weapon: Unknown
Standard Artillery: Krupp C64 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C64_%28field_gun%29
Main Naval Vessels: 7 Ironclads-(1870) 10 Ironclads-(1871)
Additional Reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_a ... cteristics

Russian Empire [TAKEN]
Population (Motherland): 84,500,000
Population (Empire Total): 96,000,000
Standing Military and Reserves: +/- 1,500,000
Maximum Conscription (Native): 6,760,000
Maximum Conscription (Empire Total): 7,680,000
Country and Territories: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... n_1914.svg
Head of State: His Imperial Majesty, the Emperor and Autocrat of All the Russians, Aleksandr II Nikolaevich
Government Style: Absolute Monarchy
Primary Weapon: Berdan Rifle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berdan_rifle
Secondary Weapon: Smith & Wesson Model 3 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_3 (After 1871)
Standard Artillery: Krupp C64 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C64_%28field_gun%29
Main Naval Vessels: 24 Ironclads http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Russian_ironclads
Additional Reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_R ... my#Reforms

United States of America [TAKEN]
Population (The States): 38,555,983
Standing Military and Reserves: 50,000
Maximum Conscription (Native): 3,084,478
Country and Territories: http://xroads.virginia.edu/~map/territory/us_1870.jpg
Head of State: President Ulysses S. Grant
Head of Government: Vice President Schulyer Colfax/Speaker of the House James G. Blaine
Government Style: Federalist Republic
Primary Weapon: Springfield Model 1870-(1870) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Model_1870 (Limited use; older variants were more common)
Secondary Weapon: M1860/61 Colt http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Army_Model_1860
Standard Machine-Gun: Gatling Gun http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatling_gun
Standard Artillery: 3-Inch Ordinance Rifle (muzzle-loader)
Main Naval Vessels: 10 Steam Frigates

Austria-Hungary [TAKEN]
Population (Austria and Hungary): +/- 40,000,000
Population (Empire Total): +/- 45,000,000
Standing Military and Reserves: 800,000
Maximum Conscription (Native): 3,200,000
Maximum Conscription (Empire Total): 3,600,000
Country and Territories: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... 914%29.svg
Head of State: His Imperial and Royal Apostolic Majesty, Francis Joseph I
Head of Government: Minister-President Baron Ignaz von Plener
Government Style: Dual Constitutional Monarchy
Primary Weapon: M1867 Werndl-Holub http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1867_Werndl-Holub
Secondary Weapon: M1870 Gasser http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1870_Gasser
Standard Artillery: Unknown
Main Naval Vessels: 8 Ironclads-(1870) 10 Ironclads-(1871) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sh ... r_Monitors
Additional Reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austro-Hun ... _World_War

Meiji Japan [TAKEN]
Population (Japanese Mainland): 33,000,000
Standing Military and Reserves: 12,000
Maximum Conscription (Native): 2,640,000
Country and Territories: [see map of Modern-Day Japan: the borders were exactly the same]
Head of State: His Imperial Majesty, the Emperor of Japan Meiji the Great
Government Style: Absolute Monarchy
Primary Weapon: Various Rifles (Western imports)
Secondary Weapon: Smith & Wesson Model 3 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_3 (limited use after 1871)
Standard Machine-Gun: Gatling Gun http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatling_gun (Limited use)
Standard Artillery: Unknown locally-produced models http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artillery_ ... modern_era
Main Naval Vessels: 11 Ironclads
Additional Reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boshin_War

Kingdom of Italy [TAKEN]
Population (Italy): 25,000,000
Standing Military and Reserves: +/- 50,000
Maximum Conscription (Native): +/- 2,000,000
Country and Territories: http://wps.pearsoncustom.com/wps/media/ ... p21_15.jpg
Head of State: Father of the Homeland Victor Emmanuel II
Head of Government: Prime Minister Giovanni Lanza
Government Style: Constitutional Monarchy
Primary Weapon: Repetiergewehr Vetterli, Modell 1869, 69/71 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vetterli_r ... 2C_69.2F71 (Limited use: older variants were more common)
Secondary Weapon: Unknown
Standard Artillery: Unknown
Main Naval Vessels: 13 Ironclads-(1870) 14 Ironclads-(1871) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ir ... s_of_Italy
Additional Reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Ital ... dependence

Ottoman Empire [TAKEN]
Population (Turkey): Unknown
Population (Empire Total): +/- 28,000,000
Standing Military and Reserves: +/- 280,000
Maximum Conscription (Native): Unknown
Maximum Conscription (Empire Total): 2,240,000
Country and Territories: http://tomatobubble.com/sitebuildercont ... 0335_6.gif
Head of State: Sultan Abdülaziz
Head of Government: Grand Vizier Mehmed Emin Aali Pasha
Government Style: Absolute Monarchy
Primary Weapon: Various Rifles (British, German, and American imports) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_in ... man_Empire
Secondary Weapon: Smith & Wesson Model 3 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_3 (1871)
Standard Artillery: Various German imports
Main Naval Vessels: +/- 10 Ironclads http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ma ... d_warships

Qing China [TAKEN]
Population (China): 360,000,000
Standing Military and Reserves: +/- 3,500,000 (only 100,000 with modern equipment)
Maximum Conscription (Native): 32,000,000
Country and Territories: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... ion%29.svg
Head of State: Tongzhi Emperor
Government Style: Absolute Monarchy
Primary Weapon: Dreyse Needle-Gun-(1870) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreyse_needle_gun Mauser Model 1871-(Starting in 1871) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mauser_Model_1871
Secondary Weapon: Unknown
Standard Artillery: Unknown
Main Naval Vessels: 3 wooden warships http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beiyang_Fleet

Kingdom of Spain [TAKEN]
Population (Spain): 16,200,000
Population (Empire Total): ?20,000,000?
Standing Military and Reserves: ?100,000?
Maximum Conscription (Native): 1,296,000
Maximum Conscription (Empire Total): 1,600,000
Country and Territories: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... n_1898.png
Head of State: His Majesty, the King of Spain, Amadeo I
Head of Government: Prime Minister Juan Bautista Topete
Government Style: Constitutional Monarchy
Primary Weapon: Remington Rolling Block Rifle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_ ... lock_rifle
Secondary Weapon: Lefaucheux M1858 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lefaucheux_M1858
Standard Artillery: Unknown
Main Naval Vessels: ?5? Steam Frigates
Additional Reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-ninete ... tury_Spain

Republic of Argentina [TAKEN]
Population (Argentina): 2,250,000
Standing Military and Reserves: ?60,000?
Maximum Conscription (Native): 180,000
Country and Territories: http://image.shutterstock.com/display_p ... 874587.jpg
Head of State: Domingo Faustino Sarmiento
Head of Government: Vice President Adolfo Alsina/ Provisional President Manuel Quintana
Government Style: Democratic Republic
Primary Weapon: Remington Rolling Block Rifle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_ ... lock_rifle (Limited numbers: British, American, and German imports often used)
Secondary Weapon: Unknown
Standard Artillery: Unknown
Main Naval Vessels: Unknown

Brazilian Empire
Population (Brazil): +/-9,500,000
Standing Military and Reserves: +/- 550,000
Maximum Conscription (Native): 760,000
Country and Territories: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... dit%29.png
Head of State: His Imperial Majesty, the Emperor Dom Pedro II
Head of Government: Viscount of São Vicente
Government Style: Constitutional Monarchy
Primary Weapon: Pattern 1853 Enfield rifle-musket http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pattern_1853_Enfield
Secondary Weapon: Unknown
Standard Artillery: Unknown
Main Naval Vessels: 6 Ironclads
Additional Reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armed_Forc ... erial_Navy


Additionally, if any of the data I have is wrong or incomplete, please let me know ASAP. Your input is greatly appreciated!

If you do not want to play one of the above listed powers, please make a post with the following information on it:
Name of Nation: (What it was called in 1870)
Population: (the population of your nation)
Population [Empire Total]: (if your nation is an empire, put the population of the entire empire, including your nation, here)
Standing Military and Reserves: (the total number of soldiers in standing or reserve units)
Maximum Conscription [Native Only]: (take your nation's population, divide it by 100, and multiply that number by 8. Put your result here)
Maximum Conscription [Empire Total]: (if your nation is an empire, take the total empire population, divide it by 100, and multiply that number by 8. Put your result here.)
Country and Territories: (a link to a map of your nation in 1870)
Head of State: (your nation's sovereign in 1870)
Head of Government: (whoever was in charge of your nation's parliament/congress in 1870)
Government Style: (I don't need to explain this, do I?)
Primary Weapon: (the official service rifle of your nation in 1870. Link a picture or article of the weapon as well. If your nation adopted a new rifle in 1871, please put that here as well)
Secondary Weapon: (the official service pistol of your nation in 1870. Link a picture or article of the weapon as well. If your nation adopted a new pistol in 1871, please put that here as well)
Standard Machine-Gun: (if your nation had a machine-gun in 1870 or starting in 1871, put it here. Link a picture or article of the weapon as well. Also mention if it was lightly used or heavily used, and be honest)
Standard Artillery: (the most common field gun of your nation in 1870. Link a picture or article of the weapon as well. If your nation adopted a new field gun in 1871, please put that here as well)
Main Naval Vessels: (the creme of your nation's fleet, either ironclads or steam frigates. Place the number of those ships of your nation in 1870 here, followed by the number of those ships in 1871)


I'd recommend Chile, Iran, or Bolivia for those not wanting to play one of the aforementioned powers.

I will be background checking all of your application for accuracy. You will not be accepted until your application is as accurate as can be. Don't worry, I will help you out if you don't know any information.

Last but certainly not least, there are a few rules to go over:


Timescale:
In this RP, I will be generally directing the timescale, although you are welcome to help out with that in the game. Because of the nature of the way RPs like this work, a single day can elapse over countless posts, or a single post can advance the timeline by a month. All that is asked is that no-one advance the timeline unreasonably. By this I mean that if two nations are at a conference and are engaging in discussions, some other player can't make a post that takes place a week in the future. That being said, try to keep such conferences to a minimum in order to keep the timeline moving. And be aware of the limitations that exist in communication technologies at this time.

Historical Accuracy:

What does this mean? Obviously, it doesn't mean that we're going to be following history's course exactly, or at all. That would ruin the point of this RP! I encourage players to seek different alliances, find new technologies, and make different decisions that their nations did in 1870. However, this does NOT give you the right to futz with everything all the time always. What do I mean? Well, you can't instantly change your country's goals, for one. Killing off certain figures and promoting new ones for convenience is frowned upon. More specific rules regarding historical accuracy can be found below:

Waging War:

Any conflict that is started must be waged reasonably and realistically. This is 1870, people! Troops can't move more than twenty miles in a day on land, unless they are transported by train, and there are some very obvious limitations that train travel poses. Ship travel is very limited too, with weeks being needed to transport soldiers and supplies across the world. Troop mobilization takes time as well, at the very least two weeks for the most advanced nations. Furthermore, troops are constantly hampered by the technological limitations of the day, which I will go into more detail about below:

Technology:
Understanding the limitations of your nation's technology is important. Anyone whose nation uses the Dreyse Rifle, for example, should know that the rifle was unreliable, inaccurate, had terrible range, and released a choking gas whenever the bolt was opened after firing. The American player, as another example whose main artillery is the 3-inch muzzle-loader, will almost always be at a disadvantage when paired up against European powers. Make sure you research your nation's technology well, and make sure that you play according to that technology. Additionally, I should mention the rules regarding further development of technology: Since it can take years to develop new technologies, programs and designs put into place in 1870 and 1871 can't be cancelled, slowed down, or sped up. Also, there will be no sudden races towards advancement in technology unrealistically early: for example, no developing multi-round-mag. rifles until at least 1890. However, if you wish to start a new tech. program a year or so before it was really started, you can do that, as long as you realistically display the negative effects that accompany staring any program earlier than it should start. Likewise, you can delay a program if you wish to do so for whatever reasons. Just be realistic about it.

Know How to Lose:
This is the biggest problem I see in RPs, and I have no doubt that some dummy will cause this issue at some point. In every battle, at every second, every side tries to describe some heroic definitive victory move, a "checkmate" if you will, that causes their army to emerge victorious. This results in an incredibly childish back-and-forth and makes the game un-enjoyable. if you are losing due to decisions made earlier on, then for god's sake lose! Don't try to make up some bullcrap about a single unit of soldiers that manages to survive and win the day, that's not how real war works. Now, I'm not saying that occasionally, in certain circumstances, definitive heroics aren't allowed. But when that Prussian army that is sent to crush the French main line gets decimated in a suicide charge (like many Prussian armies did), that army has LOST. If I catch anyone breaking this simple rule of integrity in a major way, there will be one warning, followed by out-the-door.

Meta-Gaming:
This is the last point I need to make. What is meta-gaming? Well, when the Japanese start thinking about negotiating a takeover of Korea, and suddenly China sends troops to occupy Korea, that's meta-gaming: because China couldn't possibly know exactly what the Japanese were thinking, but the Chinese player has chosen to act on what the Japanese player posted. This is unacceptable. Espionage was severely limited in effectiveness during this time. A player stating a simple idea in a private setting should expect that the idea remains secret. Yes, there are situations where espionage makes sense, but if you are caught acting on information that your player wouldn't have known about, you will receive a single warning, and if you do it again you will be kicked.






That is all, enjoy!




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Postby Gibberan » Sat Sep 28, 2013 12:56 pm

Can I take the USA?
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Postby Sibator » Sat Sep 28, 2013 12:57 pm

I would like to play as the British Empire, and thank you again for naming me Co-OP.
Call me Teddy.

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Postby Shimon-Zhivago » Sat Sep 28, 2013 12:59 pm

Gibberan wrote:Can I take the USA?


Read the Application for the USA and make sure you're okay with choosing that nation. I'll mark down the USA as taken.

Sibator wrote:I would like to play as the British Empire, and thank you again for naming me Co-OP.


No problem.

Read the Application for Great Britain and make sure you're okay with choosing that nation. I'll mark down the British as taken.
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Postby Gibberan » Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:00 pm

We've got a Tommy and a Yank!
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his son in the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through himJohn 3:16-17

RP Name the Ambrosian Confederal Republic, or Ambrose
(you can still call me Gibbs)

Proud Esquarian!
(but also consider Kylaris)
Kassaran wrote:NSG, the one place where your opinion is the wrong one if it aint liberal enough for them... unless you're me, I'm well known for generally just despising human rights and the whole idea of entitlement.
Timothia wrote:My bad, I should have known better than to challenge the unchanging hive-mind of NSG. Won't happen again any time soon.

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Postby Shimon-Zhivago » Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:05 pm

I should also mention that I will be playing as Bavaria.

Here is my App:

Population: = +/- 5,500,000
Standing Military and Reserves: +/- 200,000
Maximum Conscription: 440,000
Country and Territories: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... a_1815.svg
Head of State: His Royal Highness, the Crown Prince of Bavaria, Ludwig the Second
Head of Government: Chairman Count Otto von Bray-Steinburg
Government Style: Constitutional Monarchy
Primary Weapon: M1869 Bavarian Werder http://www.militaryrifles.com/Bavaria/W ... iertes.htm
Secondary Weapon: Unknown
Standard Artillery: C64 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C64_%28field_gun%29
Additional Reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavarian_Army
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Postby Sibator » Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:05 pm

I made sure to read the app, and I just have to applaud you for extra time and effort you took making sure everything is as historical as can be.
Call me Teddy.

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Postby Gibberan » Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:06 pm

Sibator wrote:I made sure to read the app, and I just have to applaud you for extra time and effort you took making sure everything is as historical as can be.

Ditto. It looks very authentic.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his son in the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through himJohn 3:16-17

RP Name the Ambrosian Confederal Republic, or Ambrose
(you can still call me Gibbs)

Proud Esquarian!
(but also consider Kylaris)
Kassaran wrote:NSG, the one place where your opinion is the wrong one if it aint liberal enough for them... unless you're me, I'm well known for generally just despising human rights and the whole idea of entitlement.
Timothia wrote:My bad, I should have known better than to challenge the unchanging hive-mind of NSG. Won't happen again any time soon.

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Postby Shimon-Zhivago » Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:08 pm

Gibberan wrote:
Sibator wrote:I made sure to read the app, and I just have to applaud you for extra time and effort you took making sure everything is as historical as can be.

Ditto. It looks very authentic.


Thank you =)

I just thought that it's going to be a pain for people to dig around the inter-webs trying to find this info. Anyway, I'm signing off for the night.
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Postby Sibator » Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:10 pm

Shimon-Zhivago wrote:
Gibberan wrote:Ditto. It looks very authentic.


Thank you =)

I just thought that it's going to be a pain for people to dig around the inter-webs trying to find this info. Anyway, I'm signing off for the night.

One last thing, you labeled Spain as the Kingdom of Italy.

Anyway, good nigh, you certainly deserve a good rest.
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The High Tatras
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Founded: Oct 06, 2012
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Postby The High Tatras » Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:13 pm

I would consider playing in this RP, but I am already juggling three different RPs, one of which I am the originator of (fortunately I have a co-OP).

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Kannap
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Postby Kannap » Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:48 pm

I'd like to take France.
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Sovjetia
Minister
 
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Founded: Feb 23, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Sovjetia » Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:55 pm

I will take The Russian Empire
any questions or comments just tg me!

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Tribea
Minister
 
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Founded: Aug 19, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Tribea » Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:01 pm

Can i be Northern Germanic Confederation?
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No Taxes
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Posts: 15
Founded: Jan 24, 2006
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Postby No Taxes » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:23 pm

I'd like to be Qing China. I very much like the emphasis on realism, so in that vain I'd like to add that the population for China seems to be a bit high so close to the end of the Taiping Rebellion - I'd say more like 360 million. Also, the military numbers and equipment should be understood to be optimistic estimates - yes there might be that many under arms, but the number of modern-style troops armed with modern weapons like those you've listed under the primary equipment would be a much smaller number - probably somewhere around 100,000 to 150,000. The Beiyang fleet didn't quite exist yet in 1870; my count of the number of Chinese naval vessels at this time comes out to 3 wooden gunboats. I don't mean to criticize or seem nitpicky, but I just have a particular interest in China in this period and want to make sure it's accurately portrayed.

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Shimon-Zhivago
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Posts: 1299
Founded: Jun 06, 2013
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Postby Shimon-Zhivago » Sat Sep 28, 2013 7:13 pm

No Taxes wrote:I'd like to be Qing China. I very much like the emphasis on realism, so in that vain I'd like to add that the population for China seems to be a bit high so close to the end of the Taiping Rebellion - I'd say more like 360 million. Also, the military numbers and equipment should be understood to be optimistic estimates - yes there might be that many under arms, but the number of modern-style troops armed with modern weapons like those you've listed under the primary equipment would be a much smaller number - probably somewhere around 100,000 to 150,000. The Beiyang fleet didn't quite exist yet in 1870; my count of the number of Chinese naval vessels at this time comes out to 3 wooden gunboats. I don't mean to criticize or seem nitpicky, but I just have a particular interest in China in this period and want to make sure it's accurately portrayed.


Don't worry, I figured that I wasn't going to get everything right. Especially with China. I greatly appreciate your input, and will make the necessary changes. Seeing as you seem to have a good grip of Chinese History, I look forward to RPing with you once the IC opens =)

As for everyone else who has requested nations, I'll add you in. To the person requesting the North German Confederation: I have someone else requesting that position, but seeing as you took the time to come to this OOC to make your request, I'll see if he will settle for Austria-Hungary.
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Neros
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Founded: Dec 22, 2011
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Postby Neros » Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:41 pm

I'd like to be Austria-Hungary. I'll be doing some research on their artillery and their machine gun (if they used them at this time, most likely not).

It will be interesting to play through the Balkan Troubles, especially between our old nemesis with the Ottomans, and a future adversary (or ally), Russia. We've already lost our prestige to Prussia, and a rising Italy would be a scary thought. Sounds like fun.

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Tribea
Minister
 
Posts: 2891
Founded: Aug 19, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Tribea » Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:37 pm

Shimon-Zhivago wrote:
No Taxes wrote:I'd like to be Qing China. I very much like the emphasis on realism, so in that vain I'd like to add that the population for China seems to be a bit high so close to the end of the Taiping Rebellion - I'd say more like 360 million. Also, the military numbers and equipment should be understood to be optimistic estimates - yes there might be that many under arms, but the number of modern-style troops armed with modern weapons like those you've listed under the primary equipment would be a much smaller number - probably somewhere around 100,000 to 150,000. The Beiyang fleet didn't quite exist yet in 1870; my count of the number of Chinese naval vessels at this time comes out to 3 wooden gunboats. I don't mean to criticize or seem nitpicky, but I just have a particular interest in China in this period and want to make sure it's accurately portrayed.


Don't worry, I figured that I wasn't going to get everything right. Especially with China. I greatly appreciate your input, and will make the necessary changes. Seeing as you seem to have a good grip of Chinese History, I look forward to RPing with you once the IC opens =)

As for everyone else who has requested nations, I'll add you in. To the person requesting the North German Confederation: I have someone else requesting that position, but seeing as you took the time to come to this OOC to make your request, I'll see if he will settle for Austria-Hungary.

Its was italy, japan, germany or A.H., then Italy, japan, germany, then japan or germany.
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Jamessonia
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Founded: Jun 02, 2012
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Postby Jamessonia » Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:58 am

So. I see someone else wants the NGC. Is it possible for us to work something out so that you could maybe play someone else? I've wanted to be them and waited for this to start for the better part of a week now.
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Shimon-Zhivago
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Postby Shimon-Zhivago » Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:05 am

Neros wrote:I'd like to be Austria-Hungary. I'll be doing some research on their artillery and their machine gun (if they used them at this time, most likely not).

It will be interesting to play through the Balkan Troubles, especially between our old nemesis with the Ottomans, and a future adversary (or ally), Russia. We've already lost our prestige to Prussia, and a rising Italy would be a scary thought. Sounds like fun.


Only four nations had machine-guns at this time: America, Britain, France, and Japan.

I'll add you in as Austria-Hungary.
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Atorea
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Posts: 1106
Founded: Jun 26, 2013
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Postby Atorea » Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:16 am

I claim Ottoman Empire.
Colonies: The Dominion of The Colony of Atorea, and The Community of Colonial State of Atorea
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Atorea
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Postby Atorea » Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:18 am

Or maybe could I control the Canadian Tin Pot Navy.... HEHEHE.
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Shimon-Zhivago
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Postby Shimon-Zhivago » Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:26 am

How about we just stick with the Ottomans?

Make sure you've read over the application for the Ottomans. I expect you to do some extra research as well so you know the country and it's functions inside and out.
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Sovjetia
Minister
 
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Founded: Feb 23, 2012
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Postby Sovjetia » Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:27 am

Shimon-Zhivago wrote:How about we just stick with the Ottomans?

Make sure you've read over the application for the Ottomans. I expect you to do some extra research as well so you know the country and it's functions inside and out.

Hello
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Shimon-Zhivago
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Postby Shimon-Zhivago » Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:29 am

Greetings.
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