Golden Dawn gaining power in Greece! (Wake Up Greece!)

[Venizelist]

Unfortunately, a far-right extremist group known as the "Golden Dawn" or we Greeks know it as Χρυσή Αυγή or Chryssi Avghi is gaining support and has 15-22 percent support. Greece's unemployment is at 28 to 30 percent. Golden Dawn was a group created late in the 1980's by Nikolaos Michaloliakos who served in the Hellenic Armed Forces but was arrested on charges such as him illegially carrying weapons and meet the leaders of the Greek military junta which ruled the country from 1967-1974. Golden Dawn has a strong Anti-Turkish, Anti-Isreal, Anti-American, Greek Orthodox agenda. Extreme elements of the Greek Orthodox Church like Archbishop Seraphim of Piraeus have shown their support for the Golden Dawn movement and moderate elements like Archbishop Ieronymos II of Athens has criticized saying that the Greek Orthodox Church loves all people Christian or non-Christian. Golden Dawn oppose immigrants and say Greece should be only for Greeks. There members have been known for using Nazi style symbolism. Many scholars have described Golden Dawn as "far-right", "fascist", and "neo-nazist". I like to ask a few questions to you.

1. Do you support Golden Dawn's agenda?
2. Do you think Golden Dawn is defending Hellenic culture and Greek Orthodoxy?
3. Do you think if Golden Dawn gets in power they will go to war with Turkey?
4. How would Golden Dawn affect Greek-US relations?
5. How would Golden Dawn affect Greek-Israeli relations?
6. How would Golden Dawn affect Greek-Turkish relations?
7. Do you think the Greek Orthodox Church should hold the extreme elements of the church accountable?

[Kazarogkai]

Nice work my brothers, its showtime. When a civil war breaks out I will be going straight there to help out

[Forster Keys]

1. No.
2. No.
3. Probably not, if they know what's good for them.
4. Negative impact.
5. Negative impact.
6. Negative impact.
7. Yes.

[Saruhan]

"Golden Dawn has a strong Anti-Turkish, Anti-Isreal, Anti-American, Greek Orthodox agenda"

I see absolutely nothing wrong with this


1. Do you support Golden Dawn's agenda?
somewhat
2. Do you think Golden Dawn is defending Hellenic culture and Greek Orthodoxy?
Not right now as they don't form government
3. Do you think if Golden Dawn gets in power they will go to war with Turkey?
No, they aren't completely stupid
4. How would Golden Dawn affect Greek-US relations?
Probably the same, I doubt they'll go full Iran or anything
5. How would Golden Dawn affect Greek-Israeli relations?
Hopefully bringing them down
6. How would Golden Dawn affect Greek-Turkish relations?
Same as Israeli-Greek relations
7. Do you think the Greek Orthodox Church should hold the extreme elements of the church accountable?
No, they should support them

[Forster Keys]

Nice work my brothers, its showtime. When a civil war breaks out I will be going straight there to help out

You're black right? I don't think you've thought this through.

[Forster Keys]

"Golden Dawn has a strong Anti-Turkish, Anti-Isreal, Anti-American, Greek Orthodox agenda"

I see absolutely nothing wrong with this

The whole killing the immigrants thing is sort of bad don't you think? I really thought you were a good deal more sensible than this. They're Neo-Nazis unabashedly.

[Angleter]

1. No
2. Possibly, but in a bad way
3. No
4. Badly
5. Badly
6. Badly
7. Yes

[4years]

-snip-

1. Do you support Golden Dawn's agenda?
2. Do you think Golden Dawn is defending Hellenic culture and Greek Orthodoxy?
3. Do you think if Golden Dawn gets in power they will go to war with Turkey?
4. How would Golden Dawn affect Greek-US relations?
5. How would Golden Dawn affect Greek-Israeli relations?
6. How would Golden Dawn affect Greek-Turkish relations?
7. Do you think the Greek Orthodox Church should hold the extreme elements accountable?

Don't overreact, Syriza or even the KKE will get power long before the Golden Dawn ever comes close. Anyway...

1. No.
2. No.
3. Only if they want to get booted right back out of power.
4. Depends on how easily the Golden Dawn can be bought and how well they take orders.
5. The Nazi symbology, among other things, will offend Israel and relations will suffer.
6. Relations will suffer.
7. It should try to exercise a moderating influence, yes.

[Kazarogkai]

Nice work my brothers, its showtime. When a civil war breaks out I will be going straight there to help out

You're black right? I don't think you've thought this through.

sarcasm, it does not go well across the internet. though yes I am pretty right wing I am not that right wing

[Forster Keys]

You're black right? I don't think you've thought this through.

sarcasm, it does not go well across the internet. though yes I am pretty right wing I am not that right wing

Ah, good.

[Forster Keys]

-snip-

1. Do you support Golden Dawn's agenda?
2. Do you think Golden Dawn is defending Hellenic culture and Greek Orthodoxy?
3. Do you think if Golden Dawn gets in power they will go to war with Turkey?
4. How would Golden Dawn affect Greek-US relations?
5. How would Golden Dawn affect Greek-Israeli relations?
6. How would Golden Dawn affect Greek-Turkish relations?
7. Do you think the Greek Orthodox Church should hold the extreme elements accountable?

Don't overreact, Syriza or even the KKE will get power long before the Golden Dawn ever comes close. Anyway...

Though if the government backs them against the left, they've a chance.

[Lamoni]

1. Do you support Golden Dawn's agenda?

NO

2. Do you think Golden Dawn is defending Hellenic culture and Greek Orthodoxy?

NO

3. Do you think if Golden Dawn gets in power they will go to war with Turkey?

That'd be suicidal for them, so no.

4. How would Golden Dawn affect Greek-US relations?

Most they could do is to make Greece isolationist, which will screw them over in the end, anyway.

5. How would Golden Dawn affect Greek-Israeli relations?

Probably just sever diplomatic ties.

6. How would Golden Dawn affect Greek-Turkish relations?

Probably just sever diplomatic ties.

7. Do you think the Greek Orthodox Church should hold the extreme elements of the church accountable?

YES

***

I fail to see how anyone should be surprised that Golden Dawn is gaining converts in a time of high unemployment. This sort of situation is what brought Hitler to power in Germany, after all. Golden Dawn is nowhere near as powerful as the NSDAP was in 1936-1939, and I doubt that they'll even get close to that kind of political power.

Just wait until the economy improves, and Golden Dawn will be nothing but a fringe party again.

[Welsh Cowboy]

I think at this point it's often supported as an anti-establishment/protest party. People are unhappy in general.

[Divair]

1. Do you support Golden Dawn's agenda?
2. Do you think Golden Dawn is defending Hellenic culture and Greek Orthodoxy?
3. Do you think if Golden Dawn gets in power they will go to war with Turkey?
4. How would Golden Dawn affect Greek-US relations?
5. How would Golden Dawn affect Greek-Israeli relations?
6. How would Golden Dawn affect Greek-Turkish relations?
7. Do you think the Greek Orthodox Church should hold the extreme elements of the church accountable?

1. No.
2. No.
3. No.
4. Badly.
5. Badly.
6. Badly.
7. Yes.

[The Sivent Isles]

1.No
2. No
3. If their smart, no
4. Poorly
5. Poorly
6. Poorly
7. Absolutely

[Draakonite]

High unemployement. Bad economy. A "far right" party get's support.

Nazi germany, greek edition.

[Kazarogkai]

sarcasm, it does not go well across the internet. though yes I am pretty right wing I am not that right wing

Ah, good.

all good? so now get over here and gimme a huggy

[Torsiedelle]

1. Do you support Golden Dawn's agenda?
2. Do you think Golden Dawn is defending Hellenic culture and Greek Orthodoxy?
3. Do you think if Golden Dawn gets in power they will go to war with Turkey?
4. How would Golden Dawn affect Greek-US relations?
5. How would Golden Dawn affect Greek-Israeli relations?
6. How would Golden Dawn affect Greek-Turkish relations?
7. Do you think the Greek Orthodox Church should hold the extreme elements of the church accountable?

1: Yes
2: Yes, but they could do more.
3: Not likely, unless they have overwhelming support + military strength.
4: It would probably be a step back, if they do have an Anti-US agenda.
5: Most likely a step back.
6: Well, it's an Anti-Turkish, Greek party...so yea...step back.
7: Possibly. It's the Church's choice.

[Venizelist]

1. Do you support Golden Dawn's agenda?
I never did and I will never support their racist agenda.
2. Do you think Golden Dawn is defending Hellenic culture and Greek Orthodoxy?
Definitely not! We Greek Orthodox Christians are suppose to love all types of people. Golden Dawn is in my opinion is the anti-Christ.
3. Do you think if Golden Dawn gets in power they will go to war with Turkey?
Definitely because they have an anti-turkish stance.
4. How would Golden Dawn affect Greek-US relations?
The US would try to bring down a Golden Dawn led government.
5. How would Golden Dawn affect Greek-Israeli relations?
Golden Dawn hates Israel and in a commercial of there's they burn the Israel and US flags.
6. How would Golden Dawn affect Greek-Turkish relations?
Golden Dawn has an anti-turkish stance.
7. Do you think the Greek Orthodox Church should hold the extreme elements of the church accountable?
Yes!

[Saruhan]

"Golden Dawn has a strong Anti-Turkish, Anti-Isreal, Anti-American, Greek Orthodox agenda"

I see absolutely nothing wrong with this

The whole killing the immigrants thing is sort of bad don't you think? I really thought you were a good deal more sensible than this. They're Neo-Nazis unabashedly.

A agree, killing is poor form, deportation is a much better alternative. Well, it comes down to the Orthodox faith, it's quite clear to me that the west doesn't give a damn, so a protector is definitely needed. If it's a rather poor country like Greece then so be it, they just need to hold the line until Russia recovers

[Conserative Morality]

1. Do you support Golden Dawn's agenda?
2. Do you think Golden Dawn is defending Hellenic culture and Greek Orthodoxy?
3. Do you think if Golden Dawn gets in power they will go to war with Turkey?
4. How would Golden Dawn affect Greek-US relations?
5. How would Golden Dawn affect Greek-Israeli relations?
6. How would Golden Dawn affect Greek-Turkish relations?
7. Do you think the Greek Orthodox Church should hold the extreme elements of the church accountable?

1. No.
2. Not unless you think of Hellenic culture and Greek Orthodoxy as backwards relics of the 19th century.
3. I don't think they're nearly that stupid.
4, 5, 6. Terribly.
7. I think they should speak out against them.

[Forster Keys]

Ah, good.

all good? so now get over here and gimme a huggy

There you go man. Share the love.

[Kazarogkai]

all good? so now get over here and gimme a huggy

There you go man. Share the love.

love is good,

[4years]

Don't overreact, Syriza or even the KKE will get power long before the Golden Dawn ever comes close. Anyway...

Though if the government backs them against the left, they've a chance.

True, and that kind of thing has happen before *cough* Hitler *cough* but I doubt it will happen in Greece for a several reasons 1) governments have and multiple abject lessons in what happens when you back the extreme right against rising parties of the left, 2) Syriza's leadership is pretty moderate its the rank and file you are radicals, 3) people remember the last time a party using that kind of rhetoric and symbology got into power so the Golden Dawn's opens are likely to be pretty stubborn and unbending, and 4) Syriza will likely simply win the next election outright.

[The Gaelic Kingdoms of Britain]

I assume they're also Anti-EU? Sounds like they would be.

It seems to me like they're complete bastards, and they definitely wont be good for Greece (Although I am fairly Nationalist in my own right) , but it'll be interesting to see how this unfolds.