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Postby Jazbaree » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:47 am

I was reading my friends statuses on my fbook homefeed arguing for the right of women over their body. I actually wasn't sure what was going on and what the bill was specifically about. When I read this article I became pretty shocked.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... davis.html

My bias upfront, I find this to be wrong. Would these patriotic liberals still be okay with abortion say a woman decided she didn't want to have the baby because she found out it had a gay gene? I'm sure the LBGT community would be in an uproar if they found that out. However, it was the woman's right over her body if she didn't want the child. Afterall it's her body.

What do you all think?

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Postby Divair » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:48 am

I'm pro-choice. Why a woman aborts doesn't matter to me.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:49 am

Divair wrote:I'm pro-choice. Why a woman aborts doesn't matter to me.


Pretty much this.
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Postby Quintium » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:50 am

I think life starts at conception, and that life should, in any case, only be ended for severe emergencies.
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Postby Carrasastova » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:51 am

Pro-choice.

Women have been gaining advances in society all over the walks of life, yet they still can't decide on what a woman does with her body or not?
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Postby Frisivisia » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:52 am

Quintium wrote:I think life starts at conception, and that life should, in any case, only be ended for severe emergencies.

And I think that the moon is made of cheese and must be worshiped on Wednesdays!

Now we both have potentially harmful conclusions from nonfactual "beliefs".
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:54 am

Quintium wrote:I think life starts at conception, and that life should, in any case, only be ended for severe emergencies.

How could a zygote possibly be considered a human life?
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Postby Risottia » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:55 am

Jazbaree wrote: Would these patriotic liberals still be okay with abortion say a woman decided she didn't want to have the baby because she found out it had a gay gene? I'm sure the LBGT community would be in an uproar if they found that out. However, it was the woman's right over her body if she didn't want the child. Afterall it's her body.


Exactly. Her body her choice, and no one else gets a say.
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Postby Risottia » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:56 am

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
Quintium wrote:I think life starts at conception, and that life should, in any case, only be ended for severe emergencies.

How could a zygote possibly be considered a human life?

Technically, it's human biological material and it's alive. Just like a toe.

Hint: human living tissue/organ =/= living human person.
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Postby Jukraina » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:56 am

Divair wrote:I'm pro-choice. Why a woman aborts doesn't matter to me.


I quite agree
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Postby Vazdania » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:57 am

Jazbaree wrote:I was reading my friends statuses on my fbook homefeed arguing for the right of women over their body. I actually wasn't sure what was going on and what the bill was specifically about. When I read this article I became pretty shocked.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... davis.html

My bias upfront, I find this to be wrong. Would these patriotic liberals still be okay with abortion say a woman decided she didn't want to have the baby because she found out it had a gay gene? I'm sure the LBGT community would be in an uproar if they found that out. However, it was the woman's right over her body if she didn't want the child. Afterall it's her body.

What do you all think?

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:57 am

Abort to the 20th year.

The world would be much cleaner. *nods*

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Postby TBA » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:58 am

While I respect a woman's right to choose what she does with her body, I think 20th week and up should be reserved for severe life threatening emergencies only, of the mother or the fetus.
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Postby Umbra Ac Silentium » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:58 am

Divair wrote:I'm pro-choice. Why a woman aborts doesn't matter to me.

There were go, that was a fast one.
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Postby Vazdania » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:59 am

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
Quintium wrote:I think life starts at conception, and that life should, in any case, only be ended for severe emergencies.

How could a zygote possibly be considered a human life?

Its developing into human life, as such it should be aborted.

If a women's body does it naturally, that is a different story.
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Postby Individuality-ness » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:59 am

Reason why we need people to be more scientifically literate. Otherwise, you'd know that abortions after the 20th week are done for medical reasons (fetus non-viable for example).
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Postby Nationalist State of Knox » Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:59 am

Risottia wrote:
Nationalist State of Knox wrote:How could a zygote possibly be considered a human life?

Technically, it's human biological material and it's alive. Just like a toe.

Hint: human living tissue/organ =/= living human person.

I doubt that Quintium (or indeed, any pro-life advocate) objects to abortion on the basis that human tissue is destroyed. You're playing with lexis here.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:00 am

Divair wrote:I'm pro-choice. Why a woman aborts doesn't matter to me.

I'd like to copy Divair's lack of bother with why a woman wants to abort.

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Postby Agritum » Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:00 am

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Abort to the 20th year.

The world would be much cleaner. *nods*

This is sarcasm.

Offing the offspring is what any parent would dream to do, I guess.
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Postby Vazdania » Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:01 am

Nationalist State of Knox wrote:
Risottia wrote:Technically, it's human biological material and it's alive. Just like a toe.

Hint: human living tissue/organ =/= living human person.

I doubt that Quintium (or indeed, any pro-life advocate) objects to abortion on the basis that human tissue is destroyed. You're playing with lexis here.

I object to it because of a fairly similar reason
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Postby Individuality-ness » Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:01 am

Ceannairceach wrote:
Divair wrote:I'm pro-choice. Why a woman aborts doesn't matter to me.

I'd like to copy Divair's lack of bother with why a woman wants to abort.

Too bad we can't end thread right now.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:01 am

Agritum wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Abort to the 20th year.

The world would be much cleaner. *nods*

This is sarcasm.

Offing the offspring is what any parent would dream doing, I guess.

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Postby Umbra Ac Silentium » Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:02 am

Individuality-ness wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:I'd like to copy Divair's lack of bother with why a woman wants to abort.

Too bad we can't end thread right now.

We can. Just don't post any more. It's that simple.

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Postby Zokorias personal views » Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:03 am

Divair wrote:I'm pro-choice. Why a woman aborts doesn't matter to me.

Same here.

What's the point of being "pro-life" anyway when they're like arguing for pregnant teenagers or such?
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:03 am

Umbra Ac Silentium wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:Too bad we can't end thread right now.

We can. Just don't post any more. It's that simple.


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