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Proclamation of Victory

Postby Brattahild » Tue May 29, 2012 7:55 am

Proclamation of Victory

Concerning The United Kingdom of Britain

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During the last major update, the Imperial Army stormed The United Kingdom of Britain and unseated the Delegate of The Greater German Reich. This military operation was conducted in concert with The Pacific, The New Inquisition, Europeia, The Black Riders, Unknown, Asgard and Empires of Earth. This diverse coalition of independent regions in opposition to GGR, treatied allies and close raider friends all receive The LKE's highest appreciation and thanks for their invaluable assistance.

We have now successfully fulfilled the first objective of our War on The Greater German Reich, namely reclaiming The United Kingdom of Britain. GGR's embassies in TUKB are being dismantled, their regional message board posts have been suppressed and soon their remnant forces will be cleared out of the region. We will continue a temporary occupation of TUKB in order to achieve this and ensure TUKB's security in the future. By achieving victory in this battle, The LKE has acted in accordance with the Kelkia Doctrine for the protection of former LKE colonies. Let no one say we do not meet our obligations. As recently as Belgium, forces from United Kingdom of Britain aided the raider and imperialist world in battle. We are glad to return this debt to our former colony.

The LKE will continue to vigorously pursue the War on The Greater German Reich and believe that this victory has confirmed the efficacy of our actions. We stand implacably opposed to their Nazi ideology as a matter of foreign policy. Our specific casus belli derives from GGR's strike on TUKB. They will face further retaliation. As much as anything, this victory is a lesson that disrespecting current or former LKE territory will be dealt with swiftly and harshly. This issue is also at the heart of our wars on the Founderless Regions Alliance and the United Defenders League. Indeed, FRA invading into United Kingdom of Britain in May 2010 and ejecting LKE units, before being repulsed by a revived founder, was the source of The LKE's War with the FRA.

Nothing better illustrates The LKE's determination to protect TUKB than the fact this victory was attained before the passage of the Security Council Resolution. As The LKE has removed regional password protection from TUKB, this liberation resolution has been rendered redundant.

The LKE has not stopped looking for ways to help TUKB. We supported the UDL's original draft text, drafted our own text when the UDL withdrew their proposal and even, after the discourtesy of the UDL resubmitting their proposal, backed that proposal again. We are pleased that this victory has been attained sooner rather than later. The LKE celebrates this victory and will now press the War onwards.

TERRA REGUM IMPERATORUMQUE TOTUM MUNDUM REGET

His Supreme Majesty, Onder, by unquestionable right, Emperor of The Land of Kings and Emperors, King of Norwood, Basileus of Polis, Grand Prince of Niso, Prince of Ilum, Prince of Maxonberg, Shogun of The Land of Dragonia, Doge of Imperial Elite, Voivode and Hospodar of Moldavia and Elector of Munster. His Highness The Royal Duke of York, formerly His Majesty King Alfred of United Kingdom of Britain.



Posted on behalf of His Supreme Majesty Onder, Emperor of The Land of Kings and Emperors, etc, by Athelstan MacGregor, Baron of Westexshire, Companion of the Order of Empire, and Prime Minister of The Land of Kings and Emperors
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Tue May 29, 2012 8:01 am

Indeed, FRA invading into United Kingdom of Britain in May 2010 and ejecting LKE units, before being repulsed by a revived founder, was the source of The LKE's War with the FRA.

Thought it was Valhalla or is that TNI?

My main question is, how did you manage to get the password? Its hard enough at the best of times to guess a password.

Edit: Congrads, nice to see things worked out.
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Postby Swift Sure » Tue May 29, 2012 8:09 am

Drop Your Pants wrote:
Indeed, FRA invading into United Kingdom of Britain in May 2010 and ejecting LKE units, before being repulsed by a revived founder, was the source of The LKE's War with the FRA.

Thought it was Valhalla or is that TNI?

My main question is, how did you manage to get the password? Its hard enough at the best of times to guess a password.

Edit: Congrads, nice to see things worked out.

Valhalla, was/is a colony of TNI.

There had been many groups searching for the password. We obtained it, although I'm not at liberty to discuss the specifics and they might never be revealed :P
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Postby A Million Voices » Tue May 29, 2012 10:29 am

A decisive victory, and great demonstration of LKE's power. Congratulations!
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Postby Frattastan » Tue May 29, 2012 12:22 pm

Swift Sure wrote:There had been many groups searching for the password. We obtained it, although I'm not at liberty to discuss the specifics and they might never be revealed :P


Endless possibilities. It's the GGR, after all. :P
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Tue May 29, 2012 7:55 pm

Sounds like I was the only person who couldn't be bothered to infiltrate. Onwards!

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Postby Cromarty » Tue May 29, 2012 8:09 pm

The LKE will continue to vigorously pursue the War on The Greater German Reich
You didn't 'vigorously pursue' anything.

You were negligent in TUKB's defence, slow to get off your asses and draft a WASC resolution to liberate, instead relying on people you declared on to do it, and your 'war' hasn't done anything more than set off a chain reaction of sheep-like copy-cat declarations of war, a war that likely won't go further than this, other than to cause a dozen or so 'so... what now?' questions that you've done all that you can conceivably do. You may claim this was your 'first objective' in this war, but it very much looks like it's only objective, with nothing else achievable for you to do. Not that you'll shut up about it.

This 'proclamation of victory' is nothing more than hot air. It's a realisation of what was always going to happen: TUKB would be liberated. Your 'victory' here is that you get to write another multi-paragraphed, narcissistic, self-publicising glorified pat on the back.

Yes, yes, well done, you did what you should've done days ago.

Oh, and you even managed to throw a barb at the UDL in there. How... unsurprising. Ungrateful too, considered they were doing what you were either too busy, too negligent or too self-absorbed to do, and that was take the initiative and try to get a liberation passed for TUKB.
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Tue May 29, 2012 8:14 pm

Cromarty wrote:
The LKE will continue to vigorously pursue the War on The Greater German Reich
You didn't 'vigorously pursue' anything.

You were negligent in TUKB's defence, slow to get off your asses and draft a WASC resolution to liberate, instead relying on people you declared on to do it, and your 'war' hasn't done anything more than set off a chain reaction of sheep-like copy-cat declarations of war, a war that likely won't go further than this, other than to cause a dozen or so 'so... what now?' questions that you've done all that you can conceivably do. You may claim this was your 'first objective' in this war, but it very much looks like it's only objective, with nothing else achievable for you to do. Not that you'll shut up about it.

This 'proclamation of victory' is nothing more than hot air. It's a realisation of what was always going to happen: TUKB would be liberated. Your 'victory' here is that you get to write another multi-paragraphed, narcissistic, self-publicising glorified pat on the back.

Yes, yes, well done, you did what you should've done days ago.

Oh, and you even managed to throw a barb at the UDL in there. How... unsurprising. Ungrateful too, considered they were doing what you were either too busy, too negligent or too self-absorbed to do, and that was take the initiative and try to get a liberation passed for TUKB.

Leaving aside the blatant misrepresentations in your post, I have just two questions:

Are you sure you actually left the UDL? And why did you leave, since you seem to agree with everything they have to say?
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Tue May 29, 2012 8:28 pm

Cromarty wrote:
The LKE will continue to vigorously pursue the War on The Greater German Reich
You didn't 'vigorously pursue' anything.

You were negligent in TUKB's defence, slow to get off your asses and draft a WASC resolution to liberate, instead relying on people you declared on to do it, and your 'war' hasn't done anything more than set off a chain reaction of sheep-like copy-cat declarations of war, a war that likely won't go further than this, other than to cause a dozen or so 'so... what now?' questions that you've done all that you can conceivably do. You may claim this was your 'first objective' in this war, but it very much looks like it's only objective, with nothing else achievable for you to do. Not that you'll shut up about it.

This 'proclamation of victory' is nothing more than hot air. It's a realisation of what was always going to happen: TUKB would be liberated. Your 'victory' here is that you get to write another multi-paragraphed, narcissistic, self-publicising glorified pat on the back.

Yes, yes, well done, you did what you should've done days ago.

Oh, and you even managed to throw a barb at the UDL in there. How... unsurprising. Ungrateful too, considered they were doing what you were either too busy, too negligent or too self-absorbed to do, and that was take the initiative and try to get a liberation passed for TUKB.


viewtopic.php?f=24&t=181261

OUT. *points*

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Postby Eist » Tue May 29, 2012 8:29 pm

Swift Sure wrote:Valhalla, was/is a colony of TNI.


Is?

EDIT: FIXED >:(
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Postby Cromarty » Tue May 29, 2012 8:36 pm

Cerian Quilor wrote:Leaving aside the blatant misrepresentations in your post,
No, how about you address the post.

Are you sure you actually left the UDL?
Yes.
And why did you leave,
None of your, nor anyone else's business.
since you seem to agree with everything they have to say?

You mean aside from opposition to Liberate RORMS? My former opposition to Liberate TUKB?
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Posted a full week after the one by Fisch. Again, negligence.

Oh, I'm sure Onder or someone will be along shortly to declare that TUKB was 'independent' or some such shit. But their independence didn't seem to matter when accusing the UDL of 'discourtesy'.
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Tue May 29, 2012 8:43 pm

Check the timing. It was posted because the UDL chose to remove their proposal from the floor; why should the LKE do the job that the UDL is considerably more likely to succeed at (get an SC proposal passed) unless the UDL suddenly decides that they don't want to do it?

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Postby Cromarty » Tue May 29, 2012 8:52 pm

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:Check the timing. It was posted because the UDL chose to remove their proposal from the floor; why should the LKE do the job that the UDL is considerably more likely to succeed at (get an SC proposal passed) unless the UDL suddenly decides that they don't want to do it?

Because it's a region LKE claims as part of it's 'sphere of influence' bullshit, but was unwilling or unable or too incompetent to protect.
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Tue May 29, 2012 9:45 pm

Cromarty wrote:
Klaus Devestatorie wrote:Check the timing. It was posted because the UDL chose to remove their proposal from the floor; why should the LKE do the job that the UDL is considerably more likely to succeed at (get an SC proposal passed) unless the UDL suddenly decides that they don't want to do it?

Because it's a region LKE claims as part of it's 'sphere of influence' bullshit, but was unwilling or unable or too incompetent to protect.


Because there's about 5 different regions that United Kingdom of Britain have been in;

United Kingdom of Britain (current)
United Kingdoms of Britain
The United Kingdom of Britain
The united Kingdoms of Britain
The United Kingdom of Britain and Ireland (citation needed)

and The United Kingdom of Britain isn't the current one.

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Postby King HEM » Tue May 29, 2012 9:59 pm

Cromarty wrote:
The LKE will continue to vigorously pursue the War on The Greater German Reich
You didn't 'vigorously pursue' anything.

You were negligent in TUKB's defence, slow to get off your asses and draft a WASC resolution to liberate, instead relying on people you declared on to do it, and your 'war' hasn't done anything more than set off a chain reaction of sheep-like copy-cat declarations of war, a war that likely won't go further than this, other than to cause a dozen or so 'so... what now?' questions that you've done all that you can conceivably do. You may claim this was your 'first objective' in this war, but it very much looks like it's only objective, with nothing else achievable for you to do. Not that you'll shut up about it.

This 'proclamation of victory' is nothing more than hot air. It's a realisation of what was always going to happen: TUKB would be liberated. Your 'victory' here is that you get to write another multi-paragraphed, narcissistic, self-publicising glorified pat on the back.

Yes, yes, well done, you did what you should've done days ago.

Oh, and you even managed to throw a barb at the UDL in there. How... unsurprising. Ungrateful too, considered they were doing what you were either too busy, too negligent or too self-absorbed to do, and that was take the initiative and try to get a liberation passed for TUKB.


The Land of Kings and Emperors did not "rely" on anybody to do anything for them -- clearly. Perhaps the reason they were not "swift" to draft a Security Council resolution was because their primary method of getting the region back was not liberation. Perhaps they were just open minded to the concept of defender's cooperation, and were is disbelief when such cooperation was semi cast aside.

Also, note that it is you not Onderkelkia or anybody else starting the argument here. Everybody else was, and is, happy that the Nazi scourge was cleansed from the UKB. Your clear and faulty political agenda here is not likely to be seen as defender "nobility" and you may indeed run the risk of somebody calling you out on your...perhaps..motivated...statements.
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Postby A Million Voices » Tue May 29, 2012 10:10 pm

Cromarty wrote:Because it's a region LKE claims as part of it's 'sphere of influence' bullshit, but was unwilling or unable or too incompetent to protect.


Well they pulled it off, so I'd say that they were certainly willing, capable, and competent.
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Postby Cromarty » Tue May 29, 2012 10:10 pm

King HEM wrote:Also, note that it is you not Onderkelkia or anybody else starting the argument here. Everybody else was, and is, happy that the Nazi scourge was cleansed from the UKB. Your clear and faulty political agenda here is not likely to be seen as defender "nobility" and you may indeed run the risk of somebody calling you out on your...perhaps..motivated...statements.

Someone hasn't been paying the fuck attention.

I am not, nor have I been for two weeks now, a defender.
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Cromarty wrote:Because it's a region LKE claims as part of it's 'sphere of influence' bullshit, but was unwilling or unable or too incompetent to protect.


Well they pulled it off, so I'd say that they were certainly willing, capable, and competent.
Eventually, and with help. Like everything LKE does.
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Postby King HEM » Tue May 29, 2012 10:21 pm

Cromarty wrote:
King HEM wrote:Also, note that it is you not Onderkelkia or anybody else starting the argument here. Everybody else was, and is, happy that the Nazi scourge was cleansed from the UKB. Your clear and faulty political agenda here is not likely to be seen as defender "nobility" and you may indeed run the risk of somebody calling you out on your...perhaps..motivated...statements.

Someone hasn't been paying the fuck attention.

I am not, nor have I been for two weeks now, a defender.
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Well they pulled it off, so I'd say that they were certainly willing, capable, and competent.
Eventually, and with help. Like everything LKE does.


You seem to be under the impression that a single gram of care is given to who you are and what you do. All I know is that you are erroneously, arrogantly, and presumptuously trying to invent your own version of history about the LKE.

With help? Like everything the LKE does?

Tell me about the revolution in New Europe and the assistance the LKE had in squashing it.

Tell me about the Land of Dragonia and how regional criminals tried to cease it.

Tell me about the Empire of Democracy and numerous split off regions and how the LKE were crippled by them.

Tell me about the politics, the government, the incredible legal accomplishments of the following LKE Lord Chancellors:

    Chuck_W
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Tell me about the military battles of Iraq, Valhalla, the Pactium Imperium alliance, the Grand Alliance, the Congress of Sovereigns.

You sir, know nothing about what the LKE has done and what the LKE is doing. You perhaps envision yourself as some sort of sage on the issue, but your ignorance is cloaked accordingly over your wordplay and sense of unmerited self importance. Full stop.

Now tell me who -- exactly who -- has not been paying the fuck attention.
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Postby Cromarty » Tue May 29, 2012 10:30 pm

King HEM wrote:
Cromarty wrote:Someone hasn't been paying the fuck attention.

I am not, nor have I been for two weeks now, a defender.Eventually, and with help. Like everything LKE does.


You seem to be under the impression that a single gram of care is given to who you are and what you do. All I know is that you are erroneously, arrogantly, and presumptuously trying to invent your own version of history about the LKE.

With help? Like everything the LKE does?

Tell me about the revolution in New Europe and the assistance the LKE had in squashing it.

Tell me about the Land of Dragonia and how regional criminals tried to cease it.

Tell me about the Land of Democracy and numerous split off regions and how the LKE were crippled by them.

Tell me about the politics, the government, the incredible legal accomplishments of the following LKE Lord Chancellors:

    Chuck_W
    Westiana
    Anumian Captain
Tell me about the military battles of Iraq, Valhalla, the Pactium Imperium alliance, the Grand Alliance, the Congress of Sovereigns.

You sir, know nothing about what the LKE has done and what the LKE is doing. You perhaps envision yourself as some sort of sage on the issue, but your ignorance is cloaked accordingly over your wordplay and sense of unmerited self importance. Full stop.

Oh please. Like any of those things have a single iota of relevance to what LKE is doing and has been doing over the past 8 months at all.

LKE requires help in everything it does. When it raids, it's when TNI and Euro. When it griefs, it's with those two groups again. And when it liberates a region it's with help again.

LKE is a special needs child, needing help in everything it does.

And I don't envision myself as anything HEM, nor do I have a 'sense of unmerited self importance'.

And to quote yourself 'you seem to be under the impression that a single gram of care is given' to what you think of me. Go back to writing simplistic propaganda pieces disguised as sudden and important realisations.
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Postby Sichuan Pepper » Tue May 29, 2012 10:31 pm

Congratulations on liberating the region.
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Postby King HEM » Tue May 29, 2012 10:38 pm

I'm not going to drag this on further, but I will ask: how do you know what's relevant or important?

You only see a tiny picture of the region, one that you have distorted in your own mind. The LKE has accomplished great things -- some alongside allies, and others not. I already proved how your own "lagging in SC resolution" idea was bonk, and you just seem to be grasping at straws.

The LKE was a region that died for over a year, and then came back. That rarely happens, and they have done some impressive stuff -- like them or not.

And I will also toss out there, that perhaps my writing is simplistic because what I say is so obvious that it doesn't require much depth ;)
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Postby New Rogernomics » Tue May 29, 2012 10:48 pm

Cromarty wrote:And to quote yourself 'you seem to be under the impression that a single gram of care is given' to what you think of me. Go back to writing simplistic propaganda pieces disguised as sudden and important realisations.
So you devote a several post rant to HEM, even though you apparently don't care what people think of you; or for that matter what HEM thinks of himself. :p
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Postby Cromarty » Tue May 29, 2012 10:52 pm

King HEM wrote:I'm not going to drag this on further, but I will ask: how do you know what's relevant or important?
Because of my 'unmerited sense of self importance', obviously.

You only see a tiny picture of the region, one that you have distorted in your own mind. The LKE has accomplished great things -- some alongside allies, and others not. I already proved how your own "lagging in SC resolution" idea was bonk, and you just seem to be grasping at straws.
This must've been in another thread... because the SC isn't mentioned in your post...

The LKE was a region that died for over a year, and then came back. That rarely happens, and they have done some impressive stuff -- like them or not.
I never said they didn't have impressive accomplishments. Indeed, the subject was never even mentioned.

And I will also toss out there, that perhaps my writing is simplistic because what I say is so obvious that it doesn't require much depth ;)

But it wasn't. Image
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Cromarty wrote:And to quote yourself 'you seem to be under the impression that a single gram of care is given' to what you think of me. Go back to writing simplistic propaganda pieces disguised as sudden and important realisations.
So you devote a several post rant to HEM, even though you apparently don't care what people think of you; or for that matter what HEM thinks of himself. :p
I get very, very bored.

And only other thing to do would be go argue in NSG. And that gets me deleted.
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Postby Antariel » Wed May 30, 2012 12:07 am

So you don't like the war. Still. Again. As you have been noting, repeatedly, around every forum thread and IRC channel for the past few days that I have seen. It's not going to detract from the success that the other nations have had. If you don't like it, and aren't going to respond to it in any way more than 'I don't like it' posts, surely the need for discussion is over?
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Wed May 30, 2012 3:13 am

Oops just caught myself there...

Will LKE be refounding the region?
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