How can you not be christian?

[Balantania]

My question is how can you not be christian. People who are athiest, I believe say there is no god as an excuse for them to get away wiht something they know is a sin. Also people say why doesnt god just show himself and my answer to that is Faith. What use what it be if god just showed himself to everyone and then everyone just switched to christian, God wants people who have faith and are loyal not people who see him and then suddenly believe. Also Athiest who dont belive in god explain to me about ghosts then? Dont say thier not real either because my dad and stepmother have both seen demons, and if you want to know about it i would be more than happy to explain.

Also people who belive Obama is the Anti-Christ, I can see this to some point because in the bible it says that the Anti-Christ will try to make peace wiht everyone and be a nice handsome smooth talker whihc obama is so yes i can see obama being the anti-christ. But i wouldnt freak out about it because if your saved then you will go to heaven. just like 2012 why freak out when you will be going to a better place thats why i think the people who freak out about it are the ones who are worried because they no about the sins they have committed.


Also all of these different religons like catholics, prodestants and judism and all the others i think are in my opinion are not needed because all you have to do is belive in god and the virgin marry and that jesus gave his sins for us, also god didnt make religon, humans made religon in thier own way that they seen fit. For example reilgon is formed like a club and then one day a member form that club doesnt like the ideas of it so then they go and make thier own club meaning religon. But really all you have to do is belive in virgin marry, jesus sacrifice and belive in god as your heavenly father and you will go to heaven.

Im not a perfect christian, no one is infact ive had my doubts but after talking wiht my Step Mom and my Dad and thinking about the miracles that have happened to me i do belive there is a god and thats called faith. So please anyone is welcome to comment but do not argue or make stupid comments or make fun of anyones religon. This is meant to be a discussion not a argument about which religon is better or calling someone stupid because of thier beliefs.

[Amazonian Beasts]

Wrong forum dude.

[Dinosians]

First of all I think this is in the wrong section.

Secondly I can not be christian simply because I choose not to place my believe.

[Balantania]

First of all I think this is in the wrong section.

Secondly I can not be christian simply because I choose not to place my believe.

Oh im sorry maybe the mods will move the thread or somthing i think?

And why dont you believe?

[Dinosians]

because I choose not to.

[2nd PLT]

I wish i could move stuff like this...
And this won't end well.
I can't be a christian because, every time I hear about the stories, I get the impossibly strong feeling that God, as Christians and Catholics know him, is evil, and the Devil is good.
And the being of evil shouldn't be good. Thus I remain Neo Pagan, in which there are a plethora of fates, one god to rule them, and the enemy you have no sympathy for, Angra Manryu, All evils in the world.

[For tea too]

I'm atheist (or rather agnostic I guess) simply because there is no proof of God as far as I am aware, and since Christianity is a faith -and proof denies faith- then there cannot ever be proof of Gods existence (in my own humble opinion). If there was ever any proof of Gods existence, then Christianity would no longer be considered a faith, but rather fact...

[Balantania]

I wish i could move stuff like this...
And this won't end well.
I can't be a christian because, every time I hear about the stories, I get the impossibly strong feeling that God, as Christians and Catholics know him, is evil, and the Devil is good.
And the being of evil shouldn't be good. Thus I remain Neo Pagan, in which there are a plethora of fates, one god to rule them, and the enemy you have no sympathy for, Angra Manryu, All evils in the world.

In the bible its against god to participate in ind of witchcraft and no satan is not good that is why he was casted out of heaven when he tried to question god. Alot of people dont believe because they tink the storys are all fairytales but no thier true and if you take a look at what the bible says about things that are going to happen they actually are happening yet the bible was written many many years ago so thats a reason. Also your pegan so im curious does that mean you worship satan or a witch god im sorry but im not familiar with it.

[Happy Pandas]

I can't be a Christian the same reason why you can't be a Muslim.

[Balantania]

I'm atheist (or rather agnostic I guess) simply because there is no proof of God as far as I am aware, and since Christianity is a faith -and proof denies faith- then there cannot ever be proof of Gods existence (in my own humble opinion). If there was ever any proof of Gods existence, then Christianity would no longer be considered a faith, but rather fact...

And see thats the problem people try to make up facts and reasons about why god isnt real but explain to me this how do you explain spirits then that people see because my step-mom and my step dad have seen demons before. Also there is proof the bible and also beliveing in god is all about faith hes not going to come down and show himself to you because then what would be the point to it rather than have you believe on your own and love and accept him wihtout him having to physicly sho you. Plus god does occur around you though hence "miracles" like if you get a promotion you think its luck but no its a miracle from god.

For exaple i had menangitis when i was 4 and menangitis has been known to kill teens and sometime adults who have stornger immune systems but yet i survived and i belie that was a miracle form god, that it wasnt my time to die yet, that he has somthing in store for me that he needs me to be alive still. Because believe it or not you have a purpose and you wont know it but somthing you do can maybe help wiht someone in the future which you will never know.

[Lackadaisical2]

I can't be a Christian the same reason why you can't be a Muslim.

He doesn't want to lop off part of his wang?

I was raised in an environment which, thankfully, allowed me to form my own opinions about reality. I eventually chose the rationalist perspective.

It was more fun without the edit.

[Sith Korriban]

Pagans don't worship Satan. Or a 'witch god', because there's no such thing.

They believe in different deities. Also, if they are not Christian, the Bible saying 'no witchcraft' does not apply.

Furthermore, I find your suggestion that atheists only deny god to get away with sin to be laughably uninformed, much like the rest of your remarkably incoherent, grammatically flawed and epically misspelled post.

[Collective Systems]

I say there's no god because there's no evidence of a god. I don't do it to get away with murder or bang allot of chicks (not that I don't... the second one), but there's no real proof besides a book written by a bunch of people. By that case, Harry Potter is god.

Oh, and by the way, Christianity emerged from Judaism. It's just the alternate religion in which the followers of Jesus created after his death.

[Happy Pandas]

It was more fun without the edit.

I know, but I felt like I needed to expand more. I'll edit it again.

[Balantania]

I can't be a Christian the same reason why you can't be a Muslim.

Im not a muslim for one reaosn they belive in a Allah who rewards them for killing which is completely wrong because what god would creat someone and then reward someone else for killing the other person he made? No i believe in the christian god infact religon itself is man made thought up by humans. God didnt make religon, like i said you dont have to be apart of all of those different christians because they were just made up from someone who didnt agree with somthing and decided to make thier own religon with its own beliefs. All you have to do is belive jesus died on the cross for your sins and that God is your heavenly father and you belive in the virgin marry.

[Blitzkrenia]

My question is how can you not be christian. People who are athiest, I believe say there is no god as an excuse for them to get away wiht something they know is a sin. Also people say why doesnt god just show himself and my answer to that is Faith. What use what it be if god just showed himself to everyone and then everyone just switched to christian, God wants people who have faith and are loyal not people who see him and then suddenly believe. Also Athiest who dont belive in god explain to me about ghosts then? Dont say thier not real either because my dad and stepmother have both seen demons, and if you want to know about it i would be more than happy to explain.

I neither believe in ghosts, nor believe anecdotes.

[Avenio]

I am an atheist. I believe that the universe, though an inordinately complicated, interconnected and beautiful place, does not need a creator. Its processes, creation and ultimate destruction are explained well by rational, scientific means. The archaic conglomerate of bronze age desert shephards' morality tales that is Christianity, despite claims by its proponents to the contrary, shows no evidence whatsoever of being true, and, until evidence to the contrary exposes itself, I shall continue to treat it as it warrants; an ancient coping mechanism developed by the human mind to explain the world around it, long since obsoleted by science.

[Happy Pandas]

I can't be a Christian the same reason why you can't be a Muslim.

Im not a muslim for one reaosn they belive in a Allah who rewards them for killing which is completely wrong because what god would creat someone and then reward someone else for killing the other person he made? No i believe in the christian god infact religon itself is man made thought up by humans. God didnt make religon, like i said you dont have to be apart of all of those different christians because they were just made up from someone who didnt agree with somthing and decided to make thier own religon with its own beliefs. All you have to do is belive jesus died on the cross for your sins and that God is your heavenly father and you belive in the virgin marry.

All Muslims have to believe is that Allah is god, and Muhammad is his prophet.

[Jugs of Unicorns]

TC, I am guessing you were raised to be Christian. If that's the case, you don't know any other way so logically it's going to make the most sense to you.

Just because Christianity feels right to you doesn't make it truth. Religion in general can only be approached subjectively. To approach it objectively (as you are) is the very definition of egocentrism.

And for the record, before you think I am being a typical atheist or whatever, I do believe in God.

[Greater Rhodes]

I can't be a Christian the same reason why you can't be a Muslim.

He doesn't want to lop off part of his wang?

Aren't those Jews?

[Balantania]

I say there's no god because there's no evidence of a god. I don't do it to get away with murder or bang allot of chicks (not that I don't... the second one), but there's no real proof besides a book written by a bunch of people. By that case, Harry Potter is god.

Oh, and by the way, Christianity emerged from Judaism. It's just the alternate religion in which the followers of Jesus created after his death.

But see again the human mind is never going to be able to get facts about god, we only know what god wants us to know. Its all about faith you have ot have faith in god you cant try to look for facts you just have to believe and thats what god wants. he doesnt want to have to show himself so someone can have a fact that hes real instead he wants people on thier own free will to belive in him.

[Jugs of Unicorns]

I can't be a Christian the same reason why you can't be a Muslim.

Im not a muslim for one reaosn they belive in a Allah who rewards them for killing which is completely wrong because what god would creat someone and then reward someone else for killing the other person he made? No i believe in the christian god infact religon itself is man made thought up by humans. blah blah

Allah is the same God as the Judeo-Christian God. And are you kidding? The God of the Old Testament rewards killing as if it's his hobby.

[Happy Pandas]

I say there's no god because there's no evidence of a god. I don't do it to get away with murder or bang allot of chicks (not that I don't... the second one), but there's no real proof besides a book written by a bunch of people. By that case, Harry Potter is god.

Oh, and by the way, Christianity emerged from Judaism. It's just the alternate religion in which the followers of Jesus created after his death.

But see again the human mind is never going to be able to get facts about god, we only know what god wants us to know. Its all about faith you have ot have faith in god you cant try to look for facts you just have to believe and thats what god wants. he doesnt want to have to show himself so someone can have a fact that hes real instead he wants people on thier own free will to belive in him.

When there are facts that are staring you in the face, it's downright immoral to believe otherwise.

[Balantania]

TC, I am guessing you were raised to be Christian. If that's the case, you don't know any other way so logically it's going to make the most sense to you.

Just because Christianity feels right to you doesn't make it truth. Religion in general can only be approached subjectively. To approach it objectively (as you are) is the very definition of egocentrism.

And for the record, before you think I am being a typical atheist or whatever, I do believe in God.

Yes i was rised in a christian family but belive me it wasnt perfect my dad used ot be a drug dealer and outlaw and my mom still is a person who is sneaky and uses people. But i love my dad because he decided to change to the lord but hes still not perfect and no one can be. Also like ive said religon its self is useless in my opinion woht all these different types of christians and catholics it just peoples different ideas but im just a christian who belives in the virgin marry and that god is my heavenly father and jesus died on the cross for my sins. Thats all you need ot go to heaven you dont have ot be a jehova witness who belive only a select few are going to heaven or prodestant or anything else you just have to accept god and jesus into your heart

[Collective Systems]

Im not a muslim for one reaosn they belive in a Allah who rewards them for killing which is completely wrong because what god would creat someone and then reward someone else for killing the other person he made?

Yes, why did God tell Abraham to kill Isaac, eh? Anyways, religion has no point, just like Nancy Pelosi. Oh, and Allah doesn't believe that people should kill other people. It was just this huge mix-up with the Prophet Muhammad, and what he did a long time ago. Long story.