Silly and/or Illegal GA Proposals. zOMG!

[The Dark Star Republic]

The "National Hunting Association" does not exist in the resolution, nor in NS.

Nor in RL. It's obviously talking about a hypothetical group rather than a literal one. So what's the illegality?

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

Technically, this doesn't require elections for Head of State, or even government office. Could be for Silliest Pants. I always liked that loophole.

I think you missed this:

5. "Elections" - a contest in which two or more contestants compete over the leadership of a member state and in which the winner is determined by the number of votes received by each contestant, as determined by each member state's law,

Heh. Doesn't even require that the person who receives the most votes wins.

[The Lanthanides]

Heh. Doesn't even require that the person who receives the most votes wins.

True enough, Kenny, except many pollsters would be inclined to disagree. In an alternative universe, where the winner of an election was the one who received the lowest number of votes, people would cast votes for the candidate they dislike the most. This would potentially create different results from if elections were done the kosher way, and it may be why it isn't required in point #5. Or the language is simply ambiguous. Take your pick.

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

Repeal "Nuclear Arms Possession Act"
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal
Resolution: GA#10
Proposed by: Schalovaihoff

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #10: Nuclear Arms Possession Act (Category: International Security; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: I feel that keeping these weapons to use against the nations seem like keeping a loaded gun to them I think we need to use more diplomatic ways of dealing with problems think of the Cold War and how it was won if we use nukes on our enemy's they will use them back or thearten us with the use of them the Cold War was ended because we used diplomatic standards which we need to as well
I notice that may not work everytime and we need nuke as maybe a comfort and the enemy's may still use nukes but the repeal of this act may help with that making the making and use of nukes illegal think of the Geneva convention and that stopped the use of chemical warfare if we repeal this act it will make the world a safer place
Why are people so scared of nukes why are they so useful because one reason people know what they can do the danger of them why were people so scared in the Cold War and people today scared of a nukes arm race because the fact it could bring about an apocalypse so for the sercurity of all nations don't we want to not start a war especially a nuke war so I ask for the repeal of this act to make the making of nukes and use of them illegal

Approvals: 1 (Jean Pierre Trudeau)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 86 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 2 hours

Formatting violations ("blogposal" or whatever the kids call it nowadays), RW violations (Cold War, Geneva Convention), Honest Mistake (repealing NAPA will not necessarily allow the WA to outlaw nukes, due to other resolutions on the topic), lack of punctuation makes reading this a painful chore...

Jean Pierre Trudeau will approve of just about anything in the queue, won't he?

[Jean Pierre Trudeau]

Jean Pierre Trudeau will approve of just about anything in the queue, won't he?

I only approved that one, because I thought it was funny. Someone has to encourage the noobs.

[Kaboomlandia]

Gotta love the run-on sentences where they just go on and on and you wis you could just catch your breath in the middle of the resolution so that you can collect your thoughts and see the rest of the illegalities in the proposal and so on and so forth...

[The Lanthanides]

... that Mr. Trudeau has approved a proposal that should've been taken down by the mods a long time ago. It's not funny. Look at the emoticon. It's not funny.

[Jean Pierre Trudeau]

:eyebrow: ... that Mr. Trudeau has approved a proposal that should've been taken down by the mods a long time ago. It's not funny. Look at the emoticon. It's not funny.

A long time ago? It was posted four hours ago. Do you expect the mods to nuke illegal proposals with five seconds of them being posted? Give me a break. I can approve whatever the hell I want, for any reason I want. If you don't like it, kick me out of the Delegate seat. (expect a quick ride to TRR if you try)

[The Lanthanides]

The delegation of the Lanthanides will note that Mr. Trudeau's "five-second" proposal is not at all outrageous, considering that Seioce, formerly The Free Land, had two proposals taken down at most 59 seconds after they went up. (NationStates tracks events realtime to the minute, but not to the second.) So mods nuking illegal proposals near-instantly isn't entirely outside the realm of possibility.

[Aksun]

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: hadrac_1427291051

Compulsory Vaccination

A resolution to modify universal standards of healthcare.


Category: Health

Area of Effect: Healthcare

Proposed by: Hadrac

Description: Acknowledging: Viruses are a leading cause of disease.
Note: this could be prevented easily if everyone was vaccinated
Proposition: We force all people to have vaccinations for their children to prevent viruses from spreading and causing death

Approvals: 12 (Swjistan, Rottingheim, Warlord Council, Austrombolia, Nickel Empire, Libertaria-Columbia, La Te Ra Lus, Ten Cities, Jean Pierre Trudeau, Sense makers, Geteria, Skoodilypoop)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 75 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days 7 hours

The Dragon Master of Aksun has not approved this proposal.

[Old Hope]

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: hadrac_1427291051

Compulsory Vaccination

A resolution to modify universal standards of healthcare.


Category: Health

Area of Effect: Healthcare

Proposed by: Hadrac

Description: Acknowledging: Viruses are a leading cause of disease.
Note: this could be prevented easily if everyone was vaccinated
Proposition: We force all people to have vaccinations for their children to prevent viruses from spreading and causing death

Approvals: 12 (Swjistan, Rottingheim, Warlord Council, Austrombolia, Nickel Empire, Libertaria-Columbia, La Te Ra Lus, Ten Cities, Jean Pierre Trudeau, Sense makers, Geteria, Skoodilypoop)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 75 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days 7 hours

The Dragon Master of Aksun has not approved this proposal.

What is your problem with this proposal?

[Three Weasels]

What is your problem with this proposal?

There are glaring problems with the proposal. It affects member and non-member nations alike. It doesn't make exception for cases involving allergies or cases where it would be wholly detrimental to the individual. It also doesn't account for cases where a disease may not affect a certain demographic or species. It also targets just children, ignoring adults and older vulnerable individuals. There is no means to help with distribution of the vaccination, no education to inform and ensure the masses receive vaccinations.

[Imperializt Russia]

Ideological Ban. Bans dictatorships.Illegal.
And duplication of the Elections and Assistance Act, GAR#130.

On the plus side, it doesn't state elections for what, as it assumes every nation will conclude they MUST have a presidential election to mirror the US. To be in compliance with this dreck a nation need only hold a single election once every ten years, for example, for the post of Assistant Sanitation Engineer.

FWIW, the Soviet Union held regular local elections.
You just didn't elect the central politburo.

[Kaboomlandia]

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: bok_land_1427367943

Protect The English Language

A resolution to promote funding and the development of education and the arts.


Category: Education and Creativity

Area of Effect: Educational

Proposed by: Bok Land

Description: The World Assembly,

Acknowledging that English is a lingua franca,

Alarmed at the abuse that the English language suffers from daily including, but not limited to:
a. Spelling errors
b. Grammatical errors
c. Punctuation errors,

Having devoted attention to publications by member nations of this body and having found many errors of the above types, both mistakenly or purposefully included in said publications,

Noting that attention to proper use of the English language has declined in recent years,

1. Urges all member nations to use proper grammar and avoid mistakes in any publications that they put forward;

2. Calls upon all member nations to check any works already published for spelling, grammatical, or punctuation errors and, whenever possible, correct the errors;

3. Suggests that any member nation that finds an error in a work published by another member nation reports that error to said owner of the publication in an assertive yet friendly manner;

4. Invites member nations to pass legislature within their nation that promotes the protection of proper English.

Approvals: 5 (Grey Earth, Storalia, Rottingheim, The USAR, New Cole)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 82 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days

Game mechanics (tries to force "proper" grammar)
Possibly an RL violation.

[The Dark Star Republic]

It's generally considered impolite to post proposals here that already have their own thread.

Game mechanics (tries to force "proper" grammar)

It doesn't force anything, and it's obviously talking about Dispatches, not proposals.

Possibly an RL violation.

No.

[Kaboomlandia]

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: bolgastan_1427389406

Protection of Lesser Regions

A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.


Category: International Security

Strength: Significant

Proposed by: Bolgastan

Description: The regions and nations of the World Assembly,

OBSERVING that we live in an era of seemingly International Peace,

RECOGNIZING that many smaller, insignificant regions are often overlooked,

FURTHER RECOGNIZING that small regions are much easier targets for invader regions,

BELIEVING that these overlooked regions are the future of the International community,

FURTHER BELIEVING that these regions should be conserved for the good of International Peace,

DECLARING the responsibility of nations and regions of the World Assembly to protect these regions from tyranny and oppression,

HEREBY ADOPT the following resolution:
1.) Definitions of:
a.) Lesser regions as regions comprised of less than 100 individual nations
b.) Invader regions as regions who intentionally attempt to gain control of another region through methods which causes protest from natives of the targeted nation
2.) Responsibilities of:
a.) World Assembly member nations and regions to support lesser regions in the event of invasion
b.) Lesser regions to establish themselves more powerfully than before to prevent against future attack
c.) Invader regions to only attack regions to which they are relatively equally matched

HOPING that other nations realize the significance of adopting this resolution, in the name of Global Peace.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 89 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 10 hours

Metagaming.

[Honor and Glory]

Possibly an RL violation.

No.

Still new to proposal drafting so forgive me if I'm mistaken but why do you not consider this a RL violation when Its specifically targeting the English Language? there's not necessarily a England for that language to have originated in NS and the language's rules that we would be checking for are obviously Real World stuff.

[The Dark Star Republic]

Still new to proposal drafting so forgive me if I'm mistaken but why do you not consider this a RL violation when Its specifically targeting the English Language?

Established precedent.

there's not necessarily a England for that language to have originated in NS and the language's rules that we would be checking for are obviously Real World stuff.

Well come on now, by the logic the laws of physics are a RL violation. Ban gravity!!

Further discussion on this really should go to the proposal thread, though; there was no cause for this proposal even to be posted in this thread given it already had a forum thread up.

[Grays Harbor]

Protection of Lesser Regions

A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.



Category: International Security

Strength: Significant

Proposed by: Bolgastan


Description: The regions and nations of the World Assembly,

OBSERVING that we live in an era of seemingly International Peace,

RECOGNIZING that many smaller, insignificant regions are often overlooked,

FURTHER RECOGNIZING that small regions are much easier targets for invader regions,

BELIEVING that these overlooked regions are the future of the International community,

FURTHER BELIEVING that these regions should be conserved for the good of International Peace,

DECLARING the responsibility of nations and regions of the World Assembly to protect these regions from tyranny and oppression,

HEREBY ADOPT the following resolution:
1.) Definitions of:
a.) Lesser regions as regions comprised of less than 100 individual nations
b.) Invader regions as regions who intentionally attempt to gain control of another region through methods which causes protest from natives of the targeted nation
2.) Responsibilities of:
a.) World Assembly member nations and regions to support lesser regions in the event of invasion
b.) Lesser regions to establish themselves more powerfully than before to prevent against future attack
c.) Invader regions to only attack regions to which they are relatively equally matched

HOPING that other nations realize the significance of adopting this resolution, in the name of Global Peace.

Game Mechanics

International Copyright

A resolution to develop industry around the world.



Category: Advancement of Industry

Area of Effect: Protective Tariffs

Proposed by: Jedislyvania


Description: Understanding that governments, parties, and industries rely on branding to promote products and services.
Realising that nations, businesses, and representatives have to legislature preventing the copying of flags, slogans, logos, or similar.
Recommending an international agreement of copyright to ensure the safety of branding for products and services.
Suggesting something be done about the industry and copyright within.
Wishing for a more creative world with nations that are regulated by copyright to allow for a more open collection of ideas.

Most likely duplicates #232

Repeal "Restrictions on Child Labor"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.



Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#4

Proposed by: Grant-topia


Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #4: Restrictions on Child Labor (Category: Human Rights; Strength: Strong) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: WHEREAS, The Restrictions on Child Labor voted on by the WA in April of 2008 is an extreme and detrimental overreach into the guaranteed rights of WA nations; and
WHEREAS, Families in developing nations are often starving and cannot feed their children; and
WHEREAS, The Restrictions on Child Labour prevents these starving children from getting jobs that would allow them to feed themselves, which has lead to the starvation of millions of children; and
WHEREAS, The WA should care deeply about the starvation of these children and the needs of developing nations; now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED, That the Restrictions on Child Labour resolution should be dissolved; and, be it
FURTHER RESOLVED, That a new resolution should be passes by the end of 2015 to protect children without harming them in the precess.

Uses "It's for the CHILDREN", which may not technically be illegal but makes it sound kinda stupid. I don't believe that last clause is allowed either.

[Kaboomlandia]

Idiotic proposals flying in fast and furious.

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: schalovaihoff_1427411116

Repeal "Nuclear Arms Possession Act"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#10

Proposed by: Schalovaihoff

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #10: Nuclear Arms Possession Act (Category: International Security; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: ACKNOWLEDGING. That hostile nations may use nuclear arms on the world assembly and that we are out matched
REALIZING we may need to defend ourselves from enemy attacks but if none have nuclear arms we can't have this problem
REQUIRES That no nations can hold,use,or make nuclear weapons for the safety of all
NOTICING That WA needs someway to defend itself, but can use diplomatic resources instead of war based weapons also noticing if no nations holds nuclear weapons this type of war can not happen
1 sercurity can possibly be raised and peaceful realtions between nations can be reached ( meaning a hostile state of said nation will not exist)
2 peaceful realtions between nations can be strengthened though the repeal of this act
3 people may see WA as not so much a treat but more a friend or working body for nations to make nations safer and more free from oppression

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 89 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 3 hours

None of this is going to get nukes banned.
Is the bold part a WA army violation?
Love the spelling mistakes.
Not written from WA perspective.

[Kaboomlandia]

Protection of Lesser Regions

A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.



Category: International Security

Strength: Significant

Proposed by: Bolgastan


Description: The regions and nations of the World Assembly,

OBSERVING that we live in an era of seemingly International Peace,

RECOGNIZING that many smaller, insignificant regions are often overlooked,

FURTHER RECOGNIZING that small regions are much easier targets for invader regions,

BELIEVING that these overlooked regions are the future of the International community,

FURTHER BELIEVING that these regions should be conserved for the good of International Peace,

DECLARING the responsibility of nations and regions of the World Assembly to protect these regions from tyranny and oppression,

HEREBY ADOPT the following resolution:
1.) Definitions of:
a.) Lesser regions as regions comprised of less than 100 individual nations
b.) Invader regions as regions who intentionally attempt to gain control of another region through methods which causes protest from natives of the targeted nation
2.) Responsibilities of:
a.) World Assembly member nations and regions to support lesser regions in the event of invasion
b.) Lesser regions to establish themselves more powerfully than before to prevent against future attack
c.) Invader regions to only attack regions to which they are relatively equally matched

HOPING that other nations realize the significance of adopting this resolution, in the name of Global Peace.

Game Mechanics

Got that one already.

International Copyright

A resolution to develop industry around the world.



Category: Advancement of Industry

Area of Effect: Protective Tariffs

Proposed by: Jedislyvania


Description: Understanding that governments, parties, and industries rely on branding to promote products and services.
Realising that nations, businesses, and representatives have to legislature preventing the copying of flags, slogans, logos, or similar.
Recommending an international agreement of copyright to ensure the safety of branding for products and services.
Suggesting something be done about the industry and copyright within.
Wishing for a more creative world with nations that are regulated by copyright to allow for a more open collection of ideas.

Most likely duplicates #232

"Suggesting something" isn't really much of an argument, don't you think?

Repeal "Restrictions on Child Labor"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.



Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#4

Proposed by: Grant-topia


Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #4: Restrictions on Child Labor (Category: Human Rights; Strength: Strong) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: WHEREAS, The Restrictions on Child Labor voted on by the WA in April of 2008 is an extreme and detrimental overreach into the guaranteed rights of WA nations; and
WHEREAS, Families in developing nations are often starving and cannot feed their children; and
WHEREAS, The Restrictions on Child Labour prevents these starving children from getting jobs that would allow them to feed themselves, which has lead to the starvation of millions of children; and
WHEREAS, The WA should care deeply about the starvation of these children and the needs of developing nations; now, therefore, be it
RESOLVED, That the Restrictions on Child Labour resolution should be dissolved; and, be it
FURTHER RESOLVED, That a new resolution should be passes by the end of 2015 to protect children without harming them in the precess.

Uses "It's for the CHILDREN", which may not technically be illegal but makes it sound kinda stupid. I don't believe that last clause is allowed either.

This does seem like an amendment to me.

[Flibbleites]

This does seem like an amendment to me.

It's not an amendment, it new legislation in a repeal, which is still not allowed. I also dinged it for an Honest Mistake since it reads like the author thinks that Restrictions on Child Labor completely bans child labor which it doesn't.

EDIT: Also, am i the only person who noticed what category that copyright proposal was filed under?

[Kaboomlandia]

This does seem like an amendment to me.

It's not an amendment, it new legislation in a repeal, which is still not allowed. I also dinged it for an Honest Mistake since it reads like the author thinks that Restrictions on Child Labor completely bans child labor which it doesn't.

EDIT: Also, am i the only person who noticed what category that copyright proposal was filed under?

Protective Tariffs. What category would that have fit under?

[The Lanthanides]

Seconded, Kaboomlandia. I mean, the description matched with the resolution does sound a little bit patronizing, but it's the best one we've got.

[Kaboomlandia]

Seconded, Kaboomlandia. I mean, the description matched with the resolution does sound a little bit patronizing, but it's the best one we've got.

I would guess copyright would probably fit under "Free Trade".