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Atomic Utopia
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Postby Atomic Utopia » Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:31 pm

So would a "WA National Investment Fund" be a good idea? It would provide low interest loans to developing nations in the WA using money from the WA General Fund. The goal behind it would be to both develop WA nations and keep those fictional dollars flowing into the WA general fund.
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Christian Democrats
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Postby Christian Democrats » Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:55 pm

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Atomic Utopia
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Postby Atomic Utopia » Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:42 am


Should of known that such a good idea would have already been made into a resolution.
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The Adarch Confederacy
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Founded: Apr 20, 2015
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Is this proposal Valid?

Postby The Adarch Confederacy » Sat Jun 27, 2015 12:06 am

Hi guys.
I'm a relatively new nation to the WA and recently submitted a proposal to the General Assembly, and it was canned for metagaming. I'm confused as to why, although it was probably also due to a spelling accident i forgot to delete.
Essentially, my proposal was based on the Outer Space Treaty of 1967, which prohibited WMD in space and the claimant of celestial bodies by nations.
It was designed to construct a scientific and military committee that would determine which types of spacebound weaponry and fortifications were acceptable, whilst also prohibiting the use of nuclear weaponry in a vacuum, mainly due to theoretical physics work, determining that a nuclear explosion in the near-vacuum of space would cause a shockwave that would be almost infinite.
Could I have some advice please?
Many Thanks.

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Jean Pierre Trudeau
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Founded: Nov 20, 2013
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Postby Jean Pierre Trudeau » Sat Jun 27, 2015 12:08 am

The Adarch Confederacy wrote:Hi guys.
I'm a relatively new nation to the WA and recently submitted a proposal to the General Assembly, and it was canned for metagaming. I'm confused as to why, although it was probably also due to a spelling accident i forgot to delete.
Essentially, my proposal was based on the Outer Space Treaty of 1967, which prohibited WMD in space and the claimant of celestial bodies by nations.
It was designed to construct a scientific and military committee that would determine which types of spacebound weaponry and fortifications were acceptable, whilst also prohibiting the use of nuclear weaponry in a vacuum, mainly due to theoretical physics work, determining that a nuclear explosion in the near-vacuum of space would cause a shockwave that would be almost infinite.
Could I have some advice please?
Many Thanks.


viewtopic.php?f=9&t=548&p=25057396&sid=dc73cd41dd63de5738a74fcccbe6713a#p25053584
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Whovian Tardisia
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Founded: Jun 25, 2015
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Exception Clauses

Postby Whovian Tardisia » Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:08 am

I recently submitted a proposal that wound up being deleted for duplication despite the fact that the clause in question clearly stated, in brackets, "UNLESS this is covered by a previously passed resolution". I would like to submit a version without that clause to this forum soon, but I am quite annoyed that my little exception clause was not heeded.
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Whovian Tardisia
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Postby Whovian Tardisia » Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:12 am

Jean Pierre Trudeau wrote:
The Adarch Confederacy wrote:Hi guys.
I'm a relatively new nation to the WA and recently submitted a proposal to the General Assembly, and it was canned for metagaming. I'm confused as to why, although it was probably also due to a spelling accident i forgot to delete.
Essentially, my proposal was based on the Outer Space Treaty of 1967, which prohibited WMD in space and the claimant of celestial bodies by nations.
It was designed to construct a scientific and military committee that would determine which types of spacebound weaponry and fortifications were acceptable, whilst also prohibiting the use of nuclear weaponry in a vacuum, mainly due to theoretical physics work, determining that a nuclear explosion in the near-vacuum of space would cause a shockwave that would be almost infinite.
Could I have some advice please?
Many Thanks.

One word here makes me think of the secondary reason for the removal: Military. Military forces of the WA are not allowed to be proposed. I read your proposal when it was on the floor, however, and saw nothing wrong with it on first reading.
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Whovian Tardisia
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Postby Whovian Tardisia » Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:23 am

TailsPrower wrote:How do I get endorsements for a proposal

Tell WA delegates. I think they are the only ones who can approve (not endorse, that refers to nations, not proposals) a proposal.
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New Matawan
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Postby New Matawan » Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:29 am

Hi. Longtime member, second-time writer. I have a question regarding something I'm writing. Would a proposal on regulating hateful and violent speech overlap too much or conflict with GA#30, GA#35, or clause 3 of GA #27? And even then, would it be a good idea or not, given the WA's scope? I just want to see if I have my bases covered before I begin writing.

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Defwa
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Founded: Feb 11, 2014
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Postby Defwa » Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:43 am

Whovian Tardisia wrote:I recently submitted a proposal that wound up being deleted for duplication despite the fact that the clause in question clearly stated, in brackets, "UNLESS this is covered by a previously passed resolution". I would like to submit a version without that clause to this forum soon, but I am quite annoyed that my little exception clause was not heeded.

You can't just say "this proposal is legal because it follows the rules". It has to actually follow the rules.

Also, it's worth noting that while the shockwave is infinite, its strength is not. By the time it reaches the next planet over it would be indistinguishable from solar radiation.
If you want further help on your proposal, submit it in its own thread (after correcting the issues pointed out in the Silly/Illegal Proposals thread).
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Imperium Anglorum
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Founded: Aug 26, 2013
Left-Leaning College State

Postby Imperium Anglorum » Sat Jun 27, 2015 10:09 am

Defwa wrote:(after correcting the issues pointed out in the Silly/Illegal Proposals thread).

That thread really needs to be toned down. It sounds so horrifyingly caustic in there. Turns away possible WA players.
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Imperium Anglorum
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:07 am

Heavens... the mods must be having a bad day today. (Two whole pages of adspam).
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The Dark Star Republic
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Founded: Oct 19, 2013
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Postby The Dark Star Republic » Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:11 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:
Defwa wrote:(after correcting the issues pointed out in the Silly/Illegal Proposals thread).

That thread really needs to be toned down. It sounds so horrifyingly caustic in there. Turns away possible WA players.

That's the entire point of that thread.

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Jean Pierre Trudeau
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Founded: Nov 20, 2013
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Postby Jean Pierre Trudeau » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:56 am

The Dark Star Republic wrote:
Imperium Anglorum wrote:That thread really needs to be toned down. It sounds so horrifyingly caustic in there. Turns away possible WA players.

That's the entire point of that thread.


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Caracasus
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Postby Caracasus » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:06 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:Heavens... the mods must be having a bad day today. (Two whole pages of adspam).



Yeah it was pretty grim there for a while.
As an editor I seam to spend an awful lot of thyme going threw issues and checking that they're no oblivious errars. Its a tough job but someone's got too do it!



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Ehrereich
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Postby Ehrereich » Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:17 pm

Question concerning specific mechanics regarding WA resolutions and their actual in game effect on a nation: specifically, is there an effect? Say for instance, in a hypothetical resolution where WMDs are banned, would that subsequently be reflected on my actual nation? I've been on NS for a very long time, but I've never actually given this any consideration and it would make a difference on whether or not I actually partake in the WA. I apologize if this is the wrong thread for the question.
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Vancouvia
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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Vancouvia » Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:38 pm

Ehrereich wrote:Question concerning specific mechanics regarding WA resolutions and their actual in game effect on a nation: specifically, is there an effect? Say for instance, in a hypothetical resolution where WMDs are banned, would that subsequently be reflected on my actual nation? I've been on NS for a very long time, but I've never actually given this any consideration and it would make a difference on whether or not I actually partake in the WA. I apologize if this is the wrong thread for the question.


It depends on the category and strength. So, like global disarmament would obviously decrease military spending.

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Ehrereich
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Postby Ehrereich » Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:52 pm

Okay, so there is an actual measurable mechanic effect on the actual nations. Interesting. Interesting. I'll have to see what that looks like.

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Flibbleites
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Postby Flibbleites » Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:12 pm

Ehrereich wrote:Okay, so there is an actual measurable mechanic effect on the actual nations. Interesting. Interesting. I'll have to see what that looks like.

It should be noted that the stats change only occurs when a resolution passes.

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Kinckobanina and Wherpvelna
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Postby Kinckobanina and Wherpvelna » Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:43 pm

As representative of the Democratic Republic of Kinckobanina and Wherpvelna, I wish to enquire on behalf of my people whether there is legislation pertaining to a ban on cannibalism even of the consensual sort, passed by the General Assembly.
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Separatist Peoples
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:27 am

Kinckobanina and Wherpvelna wrote:As representative of the Democratic Republic of Kinckobanina and Wherpvelna, I wish to enquire on behalf of my people whether there is legislation pertaining to a ban on cannibalism even of the consensual sort, passed by the General Assembly.

There isn't.

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Losthaven
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Postby Losthaven » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:26 am

Kinckobanina and Wherpvelna wrote:As representative of the Democratic Republic of Kinckobanina and Wherpvelna, I wish to enquire on behalf of my people whether there is legislation pertaining to a ban on cannibalism even of the consensual sort, passed by the General Assembly.

My delegation would strongly support a "Respect for the Dead" type Human Rights resolution. But if you're banning consensual cannibalism you might be in Moral Decency (which nobody likes even when it's on a position they agree with).
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The Defwaen Confederation
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Founded: Jul 07, 2015
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Postby The Defwaen Confederation » Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:52 am

Kinckobanina and Wherpvelna wrote:As representative of the Democratic Republic of Kinckobanina and Wherpvelna, I wish to enquire on behalf of my people whether there is legislation pertaining to a ban on cannibalism even of the consensual sort, passed by the General Assembly.

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30

Here is a helpful thread, stickied to the top of the forum. You can use the forum's search function to search all the resolutions with keywords like "cannibalism" in order to see if the topic has been legislated on.

Though I encourage you, like I encourage everyone, to participate in existing debates before trying to author your own proposal. It's the best, most organic way to learn the finesse of writing, the general tone of this assembly, and it will also give you an idea of what has been legislated on (because its a topic that comes up regularly in the development of legislation).

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Imperium Anglorum
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:44 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Kinckobanina and Wherpvelna wrote:As representative of the Democratic Republic of Kinckobanina and Wherpvelna, I wish to enquire on behalf of my people whether there is legislation pertaining to a ban on cannibalism even of the consensual sort, passed by the General Assembly.

There isn't.

This delegation will only support legislation on cannibalism if it would permit the eating of live people. The reason for this is because such legislation would never get passed.

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Postby Islamic Meritocratic Transoxiana » Sun Jul 12, 2015 11:58 am

Question: Is sending telegrams to regional delegates (to convince them to approve) campaigning too much?
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