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Postby Gotham Network » Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:06 pm

Submitted for the consideration of delegates:

EDITED COOPERATION IN SCIENCE

Category: Education and Creativity
Area of Effect: Education

BE IT RESOLVED THAT THESE PEOPLES OF THE WORLD ASSEMBLED

CONSIDERING scientific research and advancement to be vital to the well-being, progress and development of sapientkind,

ASTONISHED that no provisions have been made for the international sharing and coordination of scientific research,

I. HEREBY task the WA Scientific Programme with the following responsibilities:

1) To collect, disseminate, and review such research as the governments and scientists of its member nations choose to release to public scrutiny, EDITED in compliance with all appropriate national and international laws regarding intellectual property and national security;;

2) To coordinate scientific studies and research projects of international scope, which scientists from many WA nations may choose to participate in under the auspices of the WASP in concert with their nations of origin or residence, such projects to be funded directly by grants from the governments, public research institutions, privately owned foundations, corporations, or other concerned entities, and donations from concerned individuals, of the nations involved;

3) To provide a public forum for free and unhindered debate on scientific research and issues which scientists from all member nations may participate in.

II. STRONGLY URGE all member states to contribute to scientific research and advance, to the best of their ability, and to release any and all scientific research conducted under the auspices of their governments and public bodies for consideration by the WASP, save only for studies directly related to national security and similar considerations.
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Postby Sionis Prioratus » Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:26 pm

Gotham Network wrote:SHARING AND COORDINATING SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH


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Postby Grays Harbor » Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:31 pm

How would proprietary research and development be handled, such as in new equipment upgrades, or medical, specifically pharmaceutical, work be arranged? Would they also be required to share this info regardless of patent and copyright law? Would they be fairly compensated if they are required to share this?
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Postby Gotham Network » Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:43 am

You will find that this bill does not require any state or individual to share any piece of research they do not choose to.
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Postby Gotham Network » Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:46 pm

My thanks to all of the honourable delegates who have sponsored this reasonable proposal. I look forward to the vote in the coming days, in full confidence that it will pass and be added to the body of WA resolutions.
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Postby American MapleStory » Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:50 pm

Some things have to remained classified though. This does not have enough regulations and will be subject to abuse.
For starters, there has to be an exemption from Naval Intelligence.
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Postby Quelesh » Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:08 pm

Everything is exempted from this resolution, because no one is required to share anything at all.

It can't hurt, and it might do some good, therefore: YEA.
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Postby American MapleStory » Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:13 pm

How would this 'trade off' let call it, work?
Would it be voluntary participation among the members of the WA and a requirement for those to consent that have signed the resolution or will it give them a choice of the content they wish to share even after signing this resolution?
And since Im sure this is an 'equal trade bill' since there isnt much passed special interest, how would the Delegation be viewing the trades to ensure equallity among the nations that are participating to make sure every nation is putting an equal amout of effort to this collaborative movement.
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Postby Gotham Network » Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:19 pm

I have edited this draft to reflect concerns added to the submitted resolution. I will point out, once again, that no member nation is required by this resolution to submit any research whatsoever for consideration by the WASP; that all relevant protections of copyright and national security, etc. are fully honoured by the resolution; and that WASP international research projects are to be funded entirely by grants and donations, and will not even fall under the budget of the GAO. These are major compromises on my part with the anticipated will of the Assembly, as the laws and policies of Gotham Network presently make provision for neither intellectual property nor government censorship for any reason. I would gladly have submitted a resolution making the dissemination and funding of scientific research mandatory, had I the slightest hope that it would pass through this chamber unscathed. As the resolution stands, I see little reason that any of the esteemed members could hold to vote against it, save that they stand directly athwart the cause of scientific progress in all respects.
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Postby Gotham Network » Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:29 pm

American MapleStory wrote:How would this 'trade off' let call it, work?
Would it be voluntary participation among the members of the WA and a requirement for those to consent that have signed the resolution or will it give them a choice of the content they wish to share even after signing this resolution?
And since Im sure this is an 'equal trade bill' since there isnt much passed special interest, how would the Delegation be viewing the trades to ensure equallity among the nations that are participating to make sure every nation is putting an equal amout of effort to this collaborative movement.


As to your first concern, honoured ambassador, I endeavoured to be entirely clear in wording the resolution to ensure it would not be taken to imply that any member nation would be required to share any specific piece of research. If your government so chooses, it may feel free to keep every study conducted or published from consideration by the WASP.

As to the second, it is common in scientific research for the institutions involved to contribute to the best of their ability. It is not common for there to be mechanisms involved to 'make sure that every [institution] involved is putting an equal amount of effort' into the project, as different institutions (or indeed, nations) have different levels of resources and such absolutely equal matches between levels of support cannot usually be made; it would simply be a waste of time and money. In any case, we consider scientific research to be not a matter of 'equal trade', but a public good, something which everyone involved benefits from in vast excess of whatever level of resources they put in; we respectfully consider the question moot.
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Postby American MapleStory » Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:35 pm

Mr Ambassador, I have just decided under a unanimous consent inquiry that I hereby support this bill. During the active vote cloture I conclude and submit my vote as YEA.
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Postby Ifsenwich » Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:13 pm

Although Ifsenwich strictly controls all internally produced research, our Leader is quite happy to benefit from other nations' efforts.

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<<door crashes open>>
!! I thought I was allowed to share the Leader's views?? Wait!! Get your hands off me!!

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Postby Masucciania » Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:59 am

Fellow Member States of the General Assembly:

The Confederacy rises in support of this proposed resolution.

This proposed resolution allows willing states to pool their resources and work towards scientific advancement, something that many states seek. Since participation in completely voluntary, the Confederacy finds nothing wrong with such a resolution.

The Confederacy respectfully yields the floor,
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Postby Unices » Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:07 am

Our government employs no scientists, all research is done in the private sector,
but I don't see a reason for private businesses to not participate in research
with other businesses or governments, as it is in for their benefit to do so.

However, who is going to pay for the WASP?
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I was actually weirded right the hell out: I noticed this resolution coming forth right after I had come up with the idea to form the Amalgamated Coalition for the Advancement of Psychology, or ACAP (formerly the International World Psychological Association).

As the Head of the Board, The Rich Port shall cast it's vote FOR this resolution, and encourages everyone to become a part of ACAP on my and all of our members' invitation. Let progress take hold! :DDDDD
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Postby Diatraba » Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:25 am

I assume that you are saying that we share statistics of pharmaceutical and other scientific research. I must inform you that our scientific sectors are state-owned.

They are:

State Pharmaceutical Society (manages all pharmaceuticals and pharmacies)
National league of science (manages every other scientific venture)

This means that our statistics may be falsified somewhat, as they have to be passed by the Directorate for Information before they are released. So long as members are willing to accept this, then I will support this resolution, as I believe that it takes us further along the pathway to openness about such matters

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Je suppose que vous voulez dire que les statistiques nous partageons de la recherche scientifique et d'autres produits pharmaceutiques. Je dois vous informer que nos secteurs scientifiques appartiennent à l'État.

Ils sont les suivants:
la société pharmaceutique de la population (gère tous les produits pharmaceutiques et les pharmacies)
réglementation nationale des sciences (gère toutes les études scientifiques d'autres / entreprise n'est pas réglementé par la société pharmaceutique)

Cela signifie que nos statistiques peuvent être falsifiés peu, car ils doivent être passés par la Direction de l'Information avant d'être libéré. Tant que les membres sont prêts à accepter cela, alors je vais soutenir cette résolution, car je crois que cela nous mène plus loin sur la voie de l'ouverture sur des sujets tels

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Supongo que usted está diciendo que las estadísticas de participación en la investigación científica farmacéutica y otras. Debo informarle que nuestros sectores científicos son de propiedad estatal.

Ellos son:
la sociedad farmacéutica del pueblo (gestiona todos los productos farmacéuticos y farmacias)
los reguladores nacionales de ciencias (gestiona todos los estudios científicos de otros / empresas no reguladas por la sociedad farmacéutica)

Esto significa que nuestras estadísticas puede ser falsificado un poco, ya que tienen que ser aprobadas por la Dirección de Información antes de ser puesto en libertad. En tanto que los miembros están dispuestos a aceptar esto, entonces voy a apoyar esta resolución, ya que creo que nos lleve más a lo largo de la vía a la apertura de esas cosas

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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:32 am

Diatraba wrote:IThis means that our statistics may be falsified somewhat, as they have to be passed by the Directorate for Information before they are released. So long as members are willing to accept this, then I will support this resolution, as I believe that it takes us further along the pathway to openness about such matters


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Postby Gotham Network » Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:35 am

Diatraba wrote:I assume that you are saying that we share statistics of pharmaceutical and other scientific research. I must inform you that our scientific sectors are state-owned.

They are:

State Pharmaceutical Society (manages all pharmaceuticals and pharmacies)
National league of science (manages every other scientific venture)

This means that our statistics may be falsified somewhat, as they have to be passed by the Directorate for Information before they are released. So long as members are willing to accept this, then I will support this resolution, as I believe that it takes us further along the pathway to openness about such matters


We of Gotham Network place full trust in the scientific method, and strongly assert that such corrupt and fallacious research would never be able to pass muster in the international scientific community at large. Therefore, we doubt this will constitute a major concern. I join the esteemed ambassador in hopes that this resolution shall lead to greater openness, transparency, and true scientific progress in not only in yours but in every nation of this world assembly.
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Postby Diatraba » Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:37 am

The Rich Port wrote:I was actually weirded right the hell out: I noticed this resolution coming forth right after I had come up with the idea to form the Amalgamated Coalition for the Advancement of Psychology, or ACAP (formerly the International World Psychological Association).

As the Head of the Board, The Rich Port shall cast it's vote FOR this resolution, and encourages everyone to become a part of ACAP on my and all of our members' invitation. Let progress take hold! :DDDDD


I would suggest, honourable Comrade, that you write a resolution which will enshrine the Amalgamated Coalition for the Advancement of Psychology (or the International World Psychology Association), as I think that this psychological association is a good thing - I believe that there must be some international regulation of psychology and psychologists

I will be happy to co-author such a resolution, as Andrew Karanovich (the deputy ambassador) is currently undertaking psychology at school, and may have valuable expertise which may be of use

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Nous suggérons, honorable camarade, que vous écrivez une résolution qui devrait entériner la fusion de la Coalition pour la promotion de la psychologie (ou de l'association internationale de psychologie du monde), que nous pensons que cette association psychologique est une bonne chose -, nous pensons qu'il doit y avoir une réglementation internationale de la psychologie et les psychologues

nous serons heureux de co-auteur d'une telle résolution, comme Andrew Karanovich (l'ambassadeur adjoint) entreprend actuellement la psychologie à l'école, et peuvent avoir des compétences précieuses qui peuvent être utiles

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A nuestro parecer, honorable camarada, que escribe una resolución que consagre la Coalición Amalgamado para el Avance de la Psicología (o la asociación de la psicología mundo internacional), ya que creemos que esta asociación psicológica es una buena cosa - creemos que debe haber parte de las normas internacionales de la psicología y los psicólogos

estaremos encantados de ser coautor de una resolución, como Andrew Karanovich (el embajador adjunto) está llevando a cabo la psicología en la escuela, y pueden tener una experiencia valiosa que puede ser de utilidad

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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:40 am

Diatraba wrote:I would suggest, honourable Comrade, that you write a resolution which will enshrine the Amalgamated Coalition for the Advancement of Psychology (or the International World Psychology Association), as I think that this psychological association is a good thing - I believe that there must be some international regulation of psychology and psychologists

I will be happy to co-author such a resolution, as Andrew Karanovich (the deputy ambassador) is currently undertaking psychology at school, and may have valuable expertise which may be of use


One of the most sacred tenets in ACAP is that neutrality be enforced. Politics should have ZERO standing in scientific progress. The ACAP shall extend an invitation to Mr. Karanovich, so long as he takes our oath and remains neutral from this corruption within your private sector. And this is actually a good idea... but I don't know how much support it will get. Let us work together on this, then! :)
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Postby Diatraba » Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:45 am

The Rich Port wrote:
Diatraba wrote:IThis means that our statistics may be falsified somewhat, as they have to be passed by the Directorate for Information before they are released. So long as members are willing to accept this, then I will support this resolution, as I believe that it takes us further along the pathway to openness about such matters


... Are you actually confessing your government sucks? :palm: :palm: ACAP withdraws your invitation. Everyone else still is invited. Jeebus Crys...


The constraints of this resolution does actually force us to relinquish such heavy control over our scientific statistics - we have rearranged things slightly - the societies who manage science are still under state control, but their statistics no longer have to be vetted by the government.

Does this relaxation of laws warrant an invitation to the Association on Psychology?

Die Einschränkungen in diesem Gesetz auch tatsächlich zwingen uns, wie schwer die Kontrolle über unsere wissenschaftlichen Statistiken zu verzichten - wir haben die Dinge neu geordnet leicht - die Gesellschaften, die Wissenschaft zu verwalten sind noch unter staatlicher Kontrolle, aber ihre Statistiken müssen nicht mehr von der Regierung überprüft werden.

Bedeutet dies Lockerung der Gesetze rechtfertigen eine Einladung an den Verein zur Psychologie?

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Die Einschränkungen in diesem Gesetz auch tatsächlich zwingen uns, wie schwer die Kontrolle über unsere wissenschaftlichen Statistiken zu verzichten - wir haben die Dinge neu geordnet leicht - die Gesellschaften, die Wissenschaft zu verwalten sind noch unter staatlicher Kontrolle, aber ihre Statistiken müssen nicht mehr von der Regierung überprüft werden.

Bedeutet dies Lockerung der Gesetze rechtfertigen eine Einladung an den Verein zur Psychologie?

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Les contraintes de la présente loi ne fait de nous forcer à renoncer à ce contrôle lourd sur nos statistiques scientifiques - nous avons réorganisé les choses un peu - les sociétés qui gèrent la science sont toujours sous contrôle de l'Etat, mais leurs statistiques n'ont plus à être approuvés par le gouvernement.

Est-ce que l'assouplissement des lois mandat d'une invitation à l'Association de psychologie?

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Las limitaciones de la presente Ley se en realidad nos obliga a ceder el control sobre tales pesados nuestras estadísticas científica - hemos reorganizado ligeramente las cosas - las sociedades que gestionan la ciencia todavía bajo control estatal, pero sus estadísticas ya no tienen que ser examinadas por el gobierno.

¿Esta relajación de las leyes garantiza una invitación a la Asociación de Psicología?

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Postby The Asylum Manager » Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:22 pm

Considering the replies (so far) I see nobody voting against, I'd almost be inclined to do just so because of it. However, if you look at how heavily I subsidize my education you can gather I do that just to further the interest in the sciences in general so I certainly can't hold anything against this.

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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:28 pm

Diatraba wrote:The constraints of this resolution does actually force us to relinquish such heavy control over our scientific statistics - we have rearranged things slightly - the societies who manage science are still under state control, but their statistics no longer have to be vetted by the government.

Does this relaxation of laws warrant an invitation to the Association on Psychology?


Uh... look at above post, in case you haven't noticed. The Rich Portian government has good reason to be suspicious of the Diatraban private sector and of it's connections to the government. We still don't like the fact you can freakin' eat and have sex with kids in your country. But I digress. So long as the international scientific representative (a neutral scientist) can remain as such, ACAP shall accept them.
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Postby Monocrat » Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:45 pm

I advise that you reword part I, section 3 to be more like part I, section 1. As it stands, you have free and unhindered debate without any government controls, which negates the wonderful job of protecting state secrets that you did in section 1.

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Postby Flibbleites » Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:34 pm

Monocrat wrote:I advise that you reword part I, section 3 to be more like part I, section 1. As it stands, you have free and unhindered debate without any government controls, which negates the wonderful job of protecting state secrets that you did in section 1.

Considering that this is at vote, it's a little late to be rewording anything.

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