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Postby The United Universe » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:46 am

After the Universal Human Rights Act is through, what should we do about Human Rights.
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Postby Araraukar » Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:04 am

The United Universe wrote:After the Universal Human Rights Act is through, what should we do about Human Rights.

If you mean the thing that was submitted a couple of days ago, it's illegal for duplicating (and possibly contradicting) existing resolutions. And the WA already has done all sorts of things to advance human rights. I suggest you read the existing resolutions here: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30
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Postby The United Universe » Thu Jun 23, 2016 3:41 pm

Araraukar wrote:
The United Universe wrote:After the Universal Human Rights Act is through, what should we do about Human Rights.

If you mean the thing that was submitted a couple of days ago, it's illegal for duplicating (and possibly contradicting) existing resolutions. And the WA already has done all sorts of things to advance human rights. I suggest you read the existing resolutions here: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30

There are many resolutions that comment on Human Rights but I can't find one that defines what Human Rights are. If people think it's illegal than they will hopefully not approve it.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Thu Jun 23, 2016 3:50 pm

Every HR proposal ever passed. Have fun: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=381752#human_rights

Also, to the regulars, we need to concretely establish what HR is. MD has turned into HR over time simply because HR is a nicer name.

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Postby Tinfect » Thu Jun 23, 2016 4:53 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:Also, to the regulars, we need to concretely establish what HR is. MD has turned into HR over time simply because HR is a nicer name.


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I've always thought of Moral Decency as being the mirror to Human Rights, though, that isn't necessarily a bad thing, despite what it may imply.

As an example, the oft-"debated" point of Abortion. A Resolution prohibiting Abortion in all cases, should be Moral Decency, while one allowing them in all circumstances, would be Human Rights.

At the same end, and you'll have to excuse the whimsy of these examples, a Resolution prohibiting States from mandating that people wear clothes, would be Human Rights, and a Resolution mandating that people wear clothes in public spaces, would be Moral Decency. And, just for the record, I would argue that a Resolution prohibiting Slavery would be Moral Decency.

In my mind, it's always come down to a matter of Civil Liberties, and Restrictions thereof in the name of morality. I've never understood why this has been such a difficult distinction for some people, and I'll sure as hell never understand how the hell resolutions that are obvious fits for other categories managed to fly by as Human Rights.
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Postby The United Universe » Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:13 pm

Tinfect wrote:
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Also, to the regulars, we need to concretely establish what HR is. MD has turned into HR over time simply because HR is a nicer name.


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I've always thought of Moral Decency as being the mirror to Human Rights, though, that isn't necessarily a bad thing, despite what it may imply.

As an example, the oft-"debated" point of Abortion. A Resolution prohibiting Abortion in all cases, should be Moral Decency, while one allowing them in all circumstances, would be Human Rights.

At the same end, and you'll have to excuse the whimsy of these examples, a Resolution prohibiting States from mandating that people wear clothes, would be Human Rights, and a Resolution mandating that people wear clothes in public spaces, would be Moral Decency. And, just for the record, I would argue that a Resolution prohibiting Slavery would be Moral Decency.

In my mind, it's always come down to a matter of Civil Liberties, and Restrictions thereof in the name of morality. I've never understood why this has been such a difficult distinction for some people, and I'll sure as hell never understand how the hell resolutions that are obvious fits for other categories managed to fly by as Human Rights

In my opinion

Moral Decency = Religious and Spiritual Beliefs

Human Rights = Necessities for Survival
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:17 pm

The United Universe wrote:
Araraukar wrote:If you mean the thing that was submitted a couple of days ago, it's illegal for duplicating (and possibly contradicting) existing resolutions. And the WA already has done all sorts of things to advance human rights. I suggest you read the existing resolutions here: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=30

There are many resolutions that comment on Human Rights but I can't find one that defines what Human Rights are. If people think it's illegal than they will hopefully not approve it.

Human Rights is a defined category. You can find it at the top of the forum in the rules sticky. Hit Command+F and search for Category until you find it. If you need examples of HR resolutions, look here: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=381752#human_rights

Your proposal Universal Human Rights Act blatantly duplicates a large number of resolutions, especially 35 GA Charter of Civil Rights. This ground has been trod many times.

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Postby The United Universe » Fri Jun 24, 2016 1:38 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:
The United Universe wrote:There are many resolutions that comment on Human Rights but I can't find one that defines what Human Rights are. If people think it's illegal than they will hopefully not approve it.

Human Rights is a defined category. You can find it at the top of the forum in the rules sticky. Hit Command+F and search for Category until you find it. If you need examples of HR resolutions, look here: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=381752#human_rights

Your proposal Universal Human Rights Act blatantly duplicates a large number of resolutions, especially 35 GA Charter of Civil Rights. This ground has been trod many times.

Okay.
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