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Tinfect
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Tinfect » Sat May 14, 2016 12:14 am

Perhaps your world is a perfect one and it isn't. In our world (OOC: and in RL) it often is, to one degree or another. My nation tries to be as fair as possible, and prevent problems arising, but we're not alone on our planet and thus have to deal with other nations and other peoples.

OOC: I agree. Too much of the time, the unfair starting places of different social classes and the inequitable distribution of opportunity creates structural barriers against heritability of crime... certain neighbourhoods and areas, from a sociological lens, have an effect of producing crime, even with very different inhabitants over a long period of time. Social disorganisation theory may be relevant here.


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I think we are talking about two entirely different things here. Markhov up there was arguing against a 'sins of the father' sort of deal, which is what I, apparently wrongly, had thought you were going for.
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Araraukar
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Araraukar » Sat May 14, 2016 6:27 am

Tinfect wrote:OOC: I think we are talking about two entirely different things here. Markhov up there was arguing against a 'sins of the father' sort of deal, which is what I, apparently wrongly, had thought you were going for.

OOC: Yeah, when I, the player behind Araraukar, say that "crime can be inherited", it's the societal status that I mean, and which I use as an excuse for some of the RP choices for Araraukar, like the parental licencing thing, to prevent such conditions where the inheritability of "bad start to life" (in more forms than criminality alone) would come to play. My ambassador's comment about "criminal genes" is less about how I view it and more about how Janis does. She also doesn't have a degree in genetics, so being taught "crime can be inherited and that's one reason why parenting licence is needed" has likely given her the wrong idea. :P

I'll try to remember to use the proper disclaimer next time.
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Postby Excidium Planetis » Sat May 14, 2016 11:56 pm

Schultz reaches the bottom of the stack labelled 'Convention on Execution Replacements'. Surprisingly, Markhov is the author of this one.

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Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby Mallorea and Riva » Sun May 15, 2016 8:20 am

Tinfect wrote:Sentencing the any citizen or non-citizen to execution, or enacting any executions, without first achieving conviction in a Criminal Trial,

First off you've got an extra word there. Second off this would bar the death penalty for military tribunals since those are typically considered to be outside the scope of Civil or Criminal trials.
Tinfect wrote:Further Prohibits Member States from;
  • Sentencing any pregnant convicts to be executed,
  • Any convicts lacking the mental capacity to comprehend their crime,
  • Any convict under the age of majority,

You need to actually include the fact that you're talking about execution in those last two list items.


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