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Postby Kryozerkia » Fri Sep 02, 2016 9:52 am

Bears Armed Mission wrote:
Kryozerkia wrote:I see two issues - domestic taxation and legalization of medicinal cannabis. Both have been previously covered by resolutions. GAR#124 already handled the issue of legalized medicinal marijuana (though it does refer to it as MED; it's inferred from the text that it does legalize medical marijuana.). Import tax is a form of domestic tax, it's not unreasonable to see this as a violation of 8 of GAR#17.

Actually past precedent, on the basis of rulings for several proposals, is that taxes on international trade don't count as 'domestic' taxation and that therefore proposals legally can affect this.

And if you do count taxes on international trade as "domestic reform", wouldn't that mean that GA R#17 completely blocks the 'Protective Tariffs' area-of-effect for 'Advancement of Industry' proposals?

If you consider those to be 'unfair' practices - and is it fair to tax something that is medicinal in nature? However, I concede your point when those are taken into consideration.
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Postby De Dreamland » Sat Sep 03, 2016 5:08 am

Repeal "Quarantine Regulation"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#385

Proposed by: Durghkhan

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #385: Quarantine Regulation (Category: Health; Area of Effect: Healthcare) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: AGAIN, YOU KEEP PROPOSING NEW RESOLUTIONS WITHOUT MY EXPRESS ORDERS! I WON'T TOLERATE THAT AGAIN!!! FROM NOW ON YOU WILL WAIT FOR MY ORDERS AND THE RESOLUTIONS PRESCRIBED AND ALREADY APPROVED BY ME ONLY. OR ELSE THIS ASSEMBLY WILL BE IMMEDIATELY DISSOLVED. YOU ALL HAVE BEEN WARNED...

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Status: Lacking Support (requires 90 more approvals)

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Postby Bananaistan » Sat Sep 03, 2016 5:21 am

De Dreamland wrote:
Repeal "Quarantine Regulation"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#385

Proposed by: Durghkhan

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #385: Quarantine Regulation (Category: Health; Area of Effect: Healthcare) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: AGAIN, YOU KEEP PROPOSING NEW RESOLUTIONS WITHOUT MY EXPRESS ORDERS! I WON'T TOLERATE THAT AGAIN!!! FROM NOW ON YOU WILL WAIT FOR MY ORDERS AND THE RESOLUTIONS PRESCRIBED AND ALREADY APPROVED BY ME ONLY. OR ELSE THIS ASSEMBLY WILL BE IMMEDIATELY DISSOLVED. YOU ALL HAVE BEEN WARNED...

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 90 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 3 hours


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I think you forgot to say that it appears to be illegal as it relies solely on a NatSov argument.
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Postby Merni » Sat Sep 03, 2016 5:25 am

Bananaistan wrote:
De Dreamland wrote:
Repeal "Quarantine Regulation"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#385

Proposed by: Durghkhan

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #385: Quarantine Regulation (Category: Health; Area of Effect: Healthcare) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: AGAIN, YOU KEEP PROPOSING NEW RESOLUTIONS WITHOUT MY EXPRESS ORDERS! I WON'T TOLERATE THAT AGAIN!!! FROM NOW ON YOU WILL WAIT FOR MY ORDERS AND THE RESOLUTIONS PRESCRIBED AND ALREADY APPROVED BY ME ONLY. OR ELSE THIS ASSEMBLY WILL BE IMMEDIATELY DISSOLVED. YOU ALL HAVE BEEN WARNED...

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 90 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 3 hours


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I think you forgot to say that it appears to be illegal as it relies solely on a NatSov argument.

It is not a NatSov argument since the author asserts supremacy over the entire WA.
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Postby Calladan » Sat Sep 03, 2016 5:33 am

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Bananaistan wrote:
I think you forgot to say that it appears to be illegal as it relies solely on a NatSov argument.

It is not a NatSov argument since the author asserts supremacy over the entire WA.


That is clearly a ludicrous argument. Everyone knows I am the true ruler of the galaxy!!!
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Postby Kryozerkia » Sat Sep 03, 2016 6:04 am

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: mariyno_1472894931
Repeal "Quarantine Regulation"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal


Resolution: GA#385


Proposed by: Mariyno

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #385: Quarantine Regulation (Category: Health; Area of Effect: Healthcare) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: Thats can nothing to do healthcare in countries more better

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 90 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 3 hours

Uhm... what?
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Postby States of Glory WA Office » Sat Sep 03, 2016 4:56 pm

Kryozerkia wrote:
GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: mariyno_1472894931
Repeal "Quarantine Regulation"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal


Resolution: GA#385


Proposed by: Mariyno

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #385: Quarantine Regulation (Category: Health; Area of Effect: Healthcare) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: Thats can nothing to do healthcare in countries more better

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 90 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 3 hours

Uhm... what?

The repeal suggests that the target doesn't improve healthcare when that's not the case. Clearly an example of an Honest Mistake. *nods head*
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Postby Grays Harbor » Sun Sep 04, 2016 6:31 am

The problems with diseases

A resolution to modify universal standards of healthcare.


Category: Health

Area of Effect: Healthcare

Proposed by: South Lord Gaben

Description: Current diseases are getting out of control, we also don't know what may come in the near future, for most countries highest death rate is from hart disease. There are others like cancer, Ebola, etc.

I propose that we...

- focus a bit more research into these diseases and attempt to find a cure
- this may also come in handy for what we can't see now, so we will be prepared for the future
- it will also increase the life span of the people with these diseases, giving them a better chance at a happy life

Not much of anything here I can see
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Postby Grays Harbor » Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:41 pm

Economic Freedom

A resolution to restrict political freedoms in the interest of law and order.


Category: Political Stability

Strength: Significant

Proposed by: The Peoples Republic of Azerbaijan

Description: In several nations such the the United Socialist States of the People's Republic of Azerbaijan, economic instability often leads to Political Instability. The plan of this resolution is to help bring economic aid and stability to nations such as the USSPRA. Bringing economic stability to such nations will help nations to focus on political, social, and international issues without having to worry about their economy. Should this resolution pass, monthly economic aid from richer nations will help bring stability to such nations. Every month the assembly will debate which nations to continue aid to based on economic growth and stability.

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Postby Kryozerkia » Sun Sep 04, 2016 2:01 pm

States of Glory WA Office wrote:
Kryozerkia wrote:
GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: mariyno_1472894931
Repeal "Quarantine Regulation"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal


Resolution: GA#385


Proposed by: Mariyno

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #385: Quarantine Regulation (Category: Health; Area of Effect: Healthcare) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: Thats can nothing to do healthcare in countries more better

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 90 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 3 hours

Uhm... what?

The repeal suggests that the target doesn't improve healthcare when that's not the case. Clearly an example of an Honest Mistake. *nods head*

Indeed. I was just baffled by the unconventional English.
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Postby Bears Armed Mission » Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:41 am

World Assembly Space Program
A resolution to promote funding and the development of education and the arts.

Category: Education and Creativity
Area of Effect: Educational
Proposed by: The Laurentian Federation

Description: Description: The World Assembly Space Program (WASP) will be a union of different space programs to drastically speed up the advancement of Human and

Recognizing the independence of other space programs

Further recognizing that this is a united effort made up of different space administrations, not a separate space agency.

Realizing the advancements in research and development that is needed to effectively make the WASP work.

NOT Demanding all space programs to join the WASP, just as all nations are not forced to join the WA.

Improving on the repealed and flawed WA General Assembly Resolution #336: World Space Administration

Hereby...

Commissioning the WASP to:
i. Permit regular Human spaceflight to low Earth orbit (LEO)
ii. Allow all space agencies in the WASP to share and communicate their research and development, which is not mandatory (but highly recommended).
iii. Create international space stations and planetary colonies
iv. Allow other countries that are part of the WASP to have independent space stations and colonies.
v. Permit space tourism
vi. Authorize the World Assembly to remove any country from the WASP.

Forbidding the WASP to:
i. Create laws regarding space laws and policies.
ii. Transport and test nuclear weapons in space and on other astronomical bodies.
iii. Build platforms for weaponry of any kind in space.

Approvals: 13 (Voxin Cariba, AGENTS OF TRUTH, Radials, Aramythia, Blahhia, Jabrilia, Ammar Empire, NewYorkState, Portugal and Brazil and Algarves, Vancouvia, Eclixia, Zasnia, Ancient Free and Accepted Masons)
Status: Lacking Support (requires 76 more approvals)
Voting Ends: in 2 days 11 hours

Illegal for Optionality... and we already have a "WASP", with a different meaning...

Flora and Fauna Reservoirs
A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.

Category: Environmental
Industry Affected: Logging
Proposed by: Vinkentoa

Description: General Assembly,

I propose that that nations should have a small part of their environment restricted from Logging, and the public. Each of these parts should be equal to 5% of the nation's parks and already in structure reservoirs.

This section of land should only be available to the nation's government and for scientific improvments such as

A) Use plants and shrubs in this area for medicinal purposes.
B) In extreme cases (but unlikely) test drugs on animals suffering from a disease that could cure.

These reservoirs could be home to endangered animals in need of shelter, which could also include our state animals.

Approvals: 5 (Ammar Empire, Eurpenansv, Vancouvia, Eclixia, Zasnia)
Status: Lacking Support (requires 84 more approvals)
Voting Ends: in 2 days 11 hours

Illegal for branding ("I propose..."), and no real operative clause.

Reviving the Art Of War
A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.

Category: International Security
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Zasnia

Description: This proposal suggests the idea of allowing nations the freedom to act freely in war, essentially removing the rules of warfare. This is a proposal following the philosophy of the Art Of War by Sun Tsu in the manner that:

a) Countries can use weaponry at their own free choice according to their objectives. (e.g You wouldn't nuke a country if you were wanting to claim its labour, infrastructure and resources, perhaps an action against an unexpecting military would be more effective)

b) This is not to say that nations that engage in unprovoked warfare are not subject to the consequences of other nations banding together to fight against the war starting nation.

This proposal also allows for the known mutually assured destruction situation between nations deterring each other from fighting.

Approvals: 3 (Zasnia, Nihiliston, Eclixia)
Status: Lacking Support (requires 86 more approvals)
Voting Ends: in 2 days 23 hours

Illegal for RL reference, and for contradicting (or for trying to repeal, all at once and without actually using the 'Repeal' category) all of the existing resolutions that limit member nations' wartime behaviour.
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Postby Wallenburg » Mon Sep 05, 2016 10:16 am

Bears Armed Mission wrote:
World Assembly Space Program

Illegal for Optionality... and we already have a "WASP", with a different meaning...

Also, house of cards and RL references.
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Postby The Laurentian Federation » Mon Sep 05, 2016 10:43 am

Wallenburg wrote:
Bears Armed Mission wrote:
World Assembly Space Program

Illegal for Optionality... and we already have a "WASP", with a different meaning...

Also, house of cards and RL references.


(No references were intended)

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Postby Wallenburg » Mon Sep 05, 2016 10:50 am

The Laurentian Federation wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Also, house of cards and RL references.

(No references were intended)

Ah, hello there, author. I'm afraid your proposal is quite illegal, and that "World Space Administration" quite severely poisoned the well for any future World Assembly space program. Nevertheless, if you ever want to try out another proposal idea, I highly suggest that you post it on the forums as a new topic, as players can then make suggestions and offer advice before it is too late to revise your work. I also encourage you to visit other debate threads to get accustomed to the GA. Welcome to the Festering Snakepit.
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Postby The Laurentian Federation » Mon Sep 05, 2016 10:57 am

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The Laurentian Federation wrote:(No references were intended)

Ah, hello there, author. I'm afraid your proposal is quite illegal, and that "World Space Administration" quite severely poisoned the well for any future World Assembly space program. Nevertheless, if you ever want to try out another proposal idea, I highly suggest that you post it on the forums as a new topic, as players can then make suggestions and offer advice before it is too late to revise your work. I also encourage you to visit other debate threads to get accustomed to the GA. Welcome to the Festering Snakepit.



It was my first proposal anyways, I knew there were going to be some flaws.

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Postby The Laurentian Federation » Mon Sep 05, 2016 3:14 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
The Laurentian Federation wrote:(No references were intended)

Ah, hello there, author. I'm afraid your proposal is quite illegal, and that "World Space Administration" quite severely poisoned the well for any future World Assembly space program. Nevertheless, if you ever want to try out another proposal idea, I highly suggest that you post it on the forums as a new topic, as players can then make suggestions and offer advice before it is too late to revise your work. I also encourage you to visit other debate threads to get accustomed to the GA. Welcome to the Festering Snakepit.


Thanks for the advice

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The Laurentian Federation wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Ah, hello there, author. I'm afraid your proposal is quite illegal, and that "World Space Administration" quite severely poisoned the well for any future World Assembly space program. Nevertheless, if you ever want to try out another proposal idea, I highly suggest that you post it on the forums as a new topic, as players can then make suggestions and offer advice before it is too late to revise your work. I also encourage you to visit other debate threads to get accustomed to the GA. Welcome to the Festering Snakepit.



It was my first proposal anyways, I knew there were going to be some flaws.

If you knew there were flaws then why did you submit it? That makes no sense.

And another one
Democratic Furtherment Plan

A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.


Category: Furtherment of Democracy

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: American Onion states

Description: This proposal is meant to
•Convince nations to adopt more democratic ideas
•persuade new nations towards the path of democracy
•provide new nations with democratic support
•further Democracy in the world

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Postby Grays Harbor » Tue Sep 06, 2016 4:14 am

Better health

A resolution to modify universal standards of healthcare.


Category: Health

Area of Effect: Healthcare

Proposed by: Imdoo

Description: There should be health committee which should perform a change in the current status of poor health.

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Postby Grays Harbor » Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:09 pm

Education Act

A resolution to promote funding and the development of education and the arts.


Category: Education and Creativity

Area of Effect: Educational

Proposed by: New Boniza

Description: •Some nations have not as smart children as others
•Most Nations Don't Spend as much money on education
•A few nations even Ban Education
•The Children are the future of the world
So please consider the option of Boosting education and Creativity.

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Postby Grays Harbor » Wed Sep 07, 2016 12:36 pm

Death Penalty Ban

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights

Strength: Mild

Proposed by: Boulderco

Description: Thank you world assembly for hearing me out.

I am proposing that the Death Penalty be reserved solely for serial murderers.

This will keep the innocent out of harms way form a wrongful conviction. This will also cut costs down from the long appeal process.

Thank you for your time.

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The Human Rights Act

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights

Strength: Significant

Proposed by: Baltic-balkan union

Description: If this is passed, all countries shall have to agree and enforce all the following terms, anyone who violates the rights shall be deemed an international criminal that all countries shall work to catch; major criminal cases shall be passed on to the security council for further measures (Any human rights act before this that conflicts is overriden).

Part 1: Punishment and General Law.
Right 1: All humans shall be treated equally under both international law and all other levels of law.

Right 2: The death penalty shall only be used in crimes which are murder or higher (in countries where murder is not a crime, another severe crime shall be put in place.).

Right 3: Torture that causes a level of 'severe' pain (according to the victim) is strictly prohibited by international law.

Right 4: Countries cannot enforce compliance with morality with punishment.

Part 2: Workers' rights

Right 5: Forced labour cannot exceed 100 hours per week, normal labour cannot exceed 70 hours per week or less than 500 Monetary Units per month and child labour cannot exceed 17.5 hours per week or less than 125 Monetary Units per month.

Right 6: Workers cannot work in enviroments that exceed -0.5 microlifes a day (15 minutes of less life a day), except for forced labourers that can work in -1 microlife a day enviroments (30 minutes of less life a day) or, as part of a death sentence, -100 microlifes a day (500 hours of less life a day.).

It's almost like they set out to see how many existing resolutions they could cram in as one-liners.
And I really love this bit (Any human rights act before this that conflicts is overriden) where they want anything which covers their horribly written bumperstickers to be considered repealed without a repeal. Cute.

Maybe try to read the rules and guidelines first, eh?
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Civilian Disarmament

A resolution to tighten or relax gun control laws.


Category: Gun Control

Decision: Tighten

Proposed by: Ethalria

Description: Description: The World Assembly,

Recognising the dangers posed by civilians, especially those untrained, possessing lethal firearms.

Notes that lethal firearms have no place among civilians in modern civilized society, and thus should only be used by police forces, private security and military and only after personnel has received sufficient training.

Resolves to remove all lethal firearms from civilians and make it forbidden for civilians to acquire any additional lethal firearms.

Dictates

A firearm shall be considered prohibited if it satisfies any of the following:

•Any firearm that is either fully automatic or burst-fire.
•Any rifle or shotgun which is either semi-automatic or pump-action.
•Any small firearm that possesses a barrel shorter than 30cm or a total length of less than 60cm.
Including any form of starting pistol which is blank-firing that may be readily convertible to fire any live ammunition.
•Any firearm which is able to be disguised as any other object.
•Any firearm capable of discharging any noxious liquid or gas.
•Mortars or rockets.

Hereby

1) Mandates that all member nations ensures that all civilians who are in current possession of any firearm which satisfies the aforementioned rules must immediately notify the Police force operating in their area of any firearms they possess.
2) Requires such Police forces to then arrange a specific time and date for said civilians to deliver their firearms, both unloaded and disassembled where possible as well as all live ammunition in a secure container to the decided station.

3) Permits confiscated firearms to then be freely redistributed between the aforementioned organisations permitted to possess lethal firearms, with any potential compensation being issued at the nations government's discretion.

Permits

1) Member nations to allow civilians to possess any forbidden firearm provided it is both an antique and has been converted to prevent it from discharging live ammunition.
2) Or any forbidden firearm that is being used for re-enactment or entertainment purposes, provided that said firearm has been converted to prevent it from discharging live ammunition.

Woohoo. Draconian one-size-fits-nobody legislation, complete with questionable, laughable and/or downright fallacious definitions. Let's hear it for runaway micromanaging.
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Postby Wallenburg » Sat Sep 10, 2016 1:09 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:Woohoo. Draconian one-size-fits-nobody legislation, complete with questionable, laughable and/or downright fallacious definitions. Let's hear it for runaway micromanaging.

Also, looking through the details of that prohibited weapons list, it just bans all guns. Warships and orbital laser platforms look like they are still legal, though.
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Postby Calladan » Sun Sep 11, 2016 1:54 am

Wallenburg wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:Woohoo. Draconian one-size-fits-nobody legislation, complete with questionable, laughable and/or downright fallacious definitions. Let's hear it for runaway micromanaging.

Also, looking through the details of that prohibited weapons list, it just bans all guns. Warships and orbital laser platforms look like they are still legal, though.


While I can see how the "banning guns" part of it would worry most nations, I think the part that concerns me most is where the weapons are redistributed into the hands of "private security" - so essentially this would allow private organisations to build up a MASSIVE armoury for free and be trained by the government on how to use it. It doesn't put any limits or require any checks on the political ideology or moral or ethical stances of the "private security" firms, nor does it define what "private security" actually means. Which (to me) seems to be asking for trouble.
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Bears Armed Mission » Sun Sep 11, 2016 5:21 am

Repeal "Quarantine Regulation"
A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal
Resolution: GA#385
Proposed by: Apathie

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #385: Quarantine Regulation (Category: Health; Area of Effect: Healthcare) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: Building quarantines in multi-species nations is recipe for disaster.

CONSIDERING the health hazard of introducing the infection to multiple species within a contained environment within a region,
RENDERING all multi-species quarantines inherently harmful and without use
KNOWING the standards as laid out in paragraph 4 are lacking, unclear, and incomplete,
MAKING enforcement impossible on a global scale,

I, The Empire of Apathie, hereby propose on behalf of Somewhere or another, and every region like it, to repeal this obtuse, naive, regulation. Thank you.

Approvals: 3 (Apathie, 1-502nd Airborne Inf, Opyros)
Status: Lacking Support (requires 85 more approvals)
Voting Ends: in 2 days 15 hours

Probably illegal for Meta-gaming ("multi-species nations"), and definitely illegal for Branding.
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