[DRAFT] Outlaw Polygamous Marriage

[Grays Harbor]

We applaud K10 for their due diligence

[The Walden Estates]

I think because there was a grammatical error in it (I misspelled disspossessed), and maybe for strength violation? I'm not sure. They're going to post soon.

No, I think you misunderstood the telegram. I was slow to post here after the removal because I was spellchecking my post when I saw your GHR.

Ah got you.

[Poree]

So in the end, as many representatives had attempted to point out, the proposal was not a legal one?

Sarah Woodman
Representative of The Empire of Poree

[The Walden Estates]

So in the end, as many representatives had attempted to point out, the proposal was not a legal one?

Sarah Woodman
Representative of The Empire of Poree

Yes, because of a previously unimportant clause of previous ruling, which I wish I had known about sooner...

[The Walden Estates]

So in the end, as many representatives had attempted to point out, the proposal was not a legal one?

Sarah Woodman
Representative of The Empire of Poree

Yes, because of a previously unimportant clause of previous ruling, which I wish I had known about sooner...

I concede to the judicial wisdom of Kryozerkia!

[Poree]

So in the end, as many representatives had attempted to point out, the proposal was not a legal one?

Sarah Woodman
Representative of The Empire of Poree

Yes, because of a previously unimportant clause of previous ruling, which I wish I had known about sooner...

Well I learned a lot reading this debate.

[Sionis Prioratus]

This and the other clause imply that the number of persons to a union is left to the member state, which could be two or more, or none if marriage is non-existent.

And this is the way it should remain.

OOC: Thanx K10, for the Ruling. I know you speak strictly about (il)legalities. I recognize I am quoting a Mod Ruling to base a SP's personal opinion, and that is not necessarily your personal opinion.

IC: Yours,

[The Walden Estates]

This brings up an important question: if moderation did not notice the illegality of this proposal until it was pointed out to them by the honorable ambassador from Sionis Prioratus, how many other proposals have gone to vote and actually been passed that have similar contradictions? We recognize that although moderation does an excellent job at catching illegalities and are to be applauded for such diligent work, they are not omnipotent.

And does this mean ever proposal should have as diligent opposition as this one did, so as to increase the probability of finding an illegality and thus making WA law better?

[Kryozerkia]

This brings up an important question: if moderation did not notice the illegality of this proposal until it was pointed out to them by the honorable ambassador from Sionis Prioratus, how many other proposals have gone to vote and actually been passed that have similar contradictions? We recognize that although moderation does an excellent job at catching illegalities and are to be applauded for such diligent work, they are not omnipotent.

If they have, I wouldn't know. I haven't been doing this long. This is a question more suited for Ard or one of the other long-serving WA mods. I'm fairly new so I wouldn't be able to say.

[Enn]

This brings up an important question: if moderation did not notice the illegality of this proposal until it was pointed out to them by the honorable ambassador from Sionis Prioratus, how many other proposals have gone to vote and actually been passed that have similar contradictions? We recognize that although moderation does an excellent job at catching illegalities and are to be applauded for such diligent work, they are not omnipotent.

And does this mean ever proposal should have as diligent opposition as this one did, so as to increase the probability of finding an illegality and thus making WA law better?

OOC: In the past, there've been cases when illegality hasn't been realised until a proposal's got the the voting floor. Max Barry Day, back in the UN, was an example of that. Grammatical errors are another thing - one of the Education resolutions under the UN technically only supported schools in the proposer's nation, due to a single misplaced apostrophe.
Unfortunately, once something's on the floor, the mods can't touch it (and the admins don't want to).

It's always important for proposals to be debated, yes. Otherwise we end up with contradictory or otherwise illegal resolutions, and then have the difficulty of repealing something without mentioning that it is illegal.

[The Walden Estates]

Hey hey! So... debate is open now about whether polygamy is good for society or not.

[Arumdaum]

We can not support this narrow-minded view.

Wow. If this actually gets put on vote, I'm voting against it.

[Linux and the X]

We can not support this narrow-minded view.

Wow. If this actually gets put on vote, I'm voting against it.

Don't worry about that; it's illegal.

[The Walden Estates]

We can not support this narrow-minded view.

Wow. If this actually gets put on vote, I'm voting against it.

Don't worry about that; it's illegal.

Boing! Boing! *Can the ambassador from Greys Harbor please take his head back.* Yes those are gnomes melting into the ceiling.

[Grays Harbor]

We can not support this narrow-minded view.

Wow. If this actually gets put on vote, I'm voting against it.

Don't worry about that; it's illegal.

Boing! Boing! *Can the ambassador from Greys Harbor please take his head back.* Yes those are gnomes melting into the ceiling.

"Beth yw'r uffern ydych chi'n siarad am? My point, which you are refering to, was 4 days ago. While debate on this travesty was still ongoing." *shakes head* "Yr wyf yn dechrau credu bod dueling yn syniad iawn a dylid dal i fod cyfreithiol."

[The Walden Estates]

We can not support this narrow-minded view.

Wow. If this actually gets put on vote, I'm voting against it.

Don't worry about that; it's illegal.

Boing! Boing! *Can the ambassador from Greys Harbor please take his head back.* Yes those are gnomes melting into the ceiling.

"Beth yw'r uffern ydych chi'n siarad am? My point, which you are refering to, was 4 days ago. While debate on this travesty was still ongoing." *shakes head* "Yr wyf yn dechrau credu bod dueling yn syniad iawn a dylid dal i fod cyfreithiol."

Are you cursing me in Welsh?

[A mean old man]

Actually, that's the native language of Grays Harbor. You'll come in contact with it quite often if you kick around in the GA forums for long enough.

OOC: No joke, it is.

[The Walden Estates]

Actually, that's the native language of Grays Harbor. You'll come in contact with it quite often if you kick around in the GA forums for long enough.

OOC: No joke, it is.

Interesting.

OOC: Is Grey's harbor a real place then? Where they speak this celtic looking langauge?

[Grays Harbor]

Actually, that's the native language of Grays Harbor. You'll come in contact with it quite often if you kick around in the GA forums for long enough.

OOC: No joke, it is.

Interesting.

OOC: Is Grey's harbor a real place then? Where they speak this celtic looking langauge?

I'm not sure about this "Greys Harbor" person, but that is indeed the language of Grays Harbor. And yes, I do frequently post in Harberian, and it is alway IC.

[NERVUN]

Locked on request of OP.