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Postby The Dark Star Republic » Fri May 22, 2015 2:00 am

Alqania wrote:"The Queendom has voted against this repeal, as we do not find the reason compelling enough", explained Lord Raekevik. "However, we would like to congratulate the author in any case, as our opposition does not stem from any fault or deficit on their part, and we appreciate the succinctness and simplicity of this repeal. In case it passes, we hope this august assembly will not take too long to pass a replacement."

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Aaaah Snaaaake wrote:While this nation believes the act itself can be revised to ease the minds of other nations, repealing the act in and of itself is discriminatory, for it as afforded much more freedom than what it has detracted.

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Postby Land of Boggaire » Fri May 22, 2015 4:46 am

Statevia wrote:It is time for the World Assembly to stop it's self righteous civil liberties talk. Governments have the perfect right to make incest illegal seeing as incest is a dangerous act.


Incest, the sexual activity between relations, is not at all dangerous, I am far more in danger while driving my car than while sleeping with my dear auntie, I can personally assure you of that! Only having babies from incest is dangerous due to the risks of genetic abnormalities, which can be tackled through education, contraception and neutering offenders. There is a clear distinction between incest (which some just find irrationally abhorrent) and a baby being born from incest (danger of genetic abnormality). Ripping up an excellent piece of legislation that protects billions of people, for this, is madness! We should leave the people with the right to their sexual privacy, the very reason the Sexual Privacy Act was established in the 1st place.

Thank you.

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Postby The Argentum Legion » Fri May 22, 2015 6:40 am

I will not stand idly by and allow such barbaric practices to be...practiced. Incest just isn't right, I don't care how hot your sister or mom is. Leave other men, like myself, to think about them!

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Postby Statevia » Fri May 22, 2015 7:05 am

Incest is unacceptable barbarism and should be banned in every country.
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Postby Statevia » Fri May 22, 2015 7:07 am

Land of Boggaire wrote:
Statevia wrote:It is time for the World Assembly to stop it's self righteous civil liberties talk. Governments have the perfect right to make incest illegal seeing as incest is a dangerous act.


Incest, the sexual activity between relations, is not at all dangerous, I am far more in danger while driving my car than while sleeping with my dear auntie, I can personally assure you of that! Only having babies from incest is dangerous due to the risks of genetic abnormalities, which can be tackled through education, contraception and neutering offenders. There is a clear distinction between incest (which some just find irrationally abhorrent) and a baby being born from incest (danger of genetic abnormality). Ripping up an excellent piece of legislation that protects billions of people, for this, is madness! We should leave the people with the right to their sexual privacy, the very reason the Sexual Privacy Act was established in the 1st place.

Thank you.

Incest not dangerous to the people committing the act. It is dangerous because the child that is born from incest most likely will have birth defects.
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Postby Land of Boggaire » Fri May 22, 2015 7:08 am

I would be most appreciative if you can stop thinking about my beautiful family for a moment and enlighten me as to why incest is so wrong.

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Postby Statevia » Fri May 22, 2015 7:24 am

Land of Boggaire wrote:I would be most appreciative if you can stop thinking about my beautiful family for a moment and enlighten me as to why incest is so wrong.

Incest is wrong solely because of the fact that it produces a strain upon our society.
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Postby Land of Boggaire » Fri May 22, 2015 7:50 am

So, we should leave the Sexual Privacy Act as it is, and make giving birth to an incest baby illegal instead. Incestual lovers should be allowed to take responsibility for their own actions, the same as everyone else. This is why I propose education, contraception, and also neutering offenders! :)

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Postby Aaaah Snaaaake » Fri May 22, 2015 10:25 am

The Dark Star Republic wrote:"We feel we must remind the Assembly, yet again, that amendments are illegal. A repeal is the only means of revising the law."

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(I'm pretty new... but why are amendments illegal? >_> That's dumb. Anyway, didn't know that, thanks)

Amendments being illegal is quite besides the point. In our nation's second statement we clearly noted that whether amendments could be made or not, the current Sexual Privacy Act gives governments the freedom to regulate these matters as long as the rights of others are not infringed upon. In this case, unborn children. It is all of your nation's responsibilities to conduct this accordingly. For seven years the act has been fine, and yet suddenly now, a small argument over incest that ignores the largest parts of the law, which -includes- giving individual nations the freedom how to handle such things -as- incest, it has been sensationalized to repeal the entire thing.

The nation of Aaah Snaaake and its citizens know sensationalist propaganda and ulterior motives when they see it. The Sexual Privacy Act is in no need of appeal and the repeal proposals are blatant lies. It is your nation's responsibilities to handle incest and punish those accordingly that harm unborn and born children through their acts.
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Postby The Dark Star Republic » Fri May 22, 2015 10:35 am

Aaaah Snaaaake wrote:(I'm pretty new... but why are amendments illegal? >_> That's dumb. Anyway, didn't know that, thanks)

OOC: "Why Amendments Are Illegal". There is also a new discussion about whether that rule should be kept here.

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Aaaah Snaaaake wrote:The nation of Aaah Snaaake and its citizens know sensationalist propaganda and ulterior motives when they see it.

"Out of interest, given our strong support for the Alqanian draft which would reinstate virtually every provision of the original resolution, what do you think our "ulterior motive" is?"

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Postby Frustrated Franciscans » Fri May 22, 2015 12:10 pm

Statevia wrote:Incest is unacceptable barbarism and should be banned in every country.


Now really. While I am fully in support of this repeal, I strongly object to the notion that incest is "barbarism." Why some of the most barbaric nations I know clearly outlaw it and some of the most so called "civilized" nations permit it. Let's just say it's "unacceptable" and totally against the "Natural Law" and leave it at that. Or you could add "gross" and "offensive" and downright "disgusting." You could loose your eyesight over it. (Isn't that right Oedipus?)
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Postby Illtopilosia » Fri May 22, 2015 12:30 pm

To all people against the repealing of the Sexual Privacy Act,

Is it not unkind to allow a weakened child to struggle through life, always at a disadvantage to colleagues, peers, friends and others.
Is it not a burden on the Health Service, having to deal with multiple issues.

This is why we SHOULD repeal the Sexual Privacy Act

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Postby Defwa » Fri May 22, 2015 12:53 pm

Illtopilosia wrote:To all people against the repealing of the Sexual Privacy Act,

Is it not unkind to allow a weakened child to struggle through life, always at a disadvantage to colleagues, peers, friends and others.
Is it not a burden on the Health Service, having to deal with multiple issues.

This is why we SHOULD repeal the Sexual Privacy Act

Your point is poorly targeted. You can avoid the problem by just killing the unborn and then you get some good use out of the stem cells
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Fri May 22, 2015 12:56 pm

Defwa wrote:
Illtopilosia wrote:To all people against the repealing of the Sexual Privacy Act,

Is it not unkind to allow a weakened child to struggle through life, always at a disadvantage to colleagues, peers, friends and others.
Is it not a burden on the Health Service, having to deal with multiple issues.

This is why we SHOULD repeal the Sexual Privacy Act

Your point is poorly targeted. You can avoid the problem by just killing the unborn and then you get some good use out of the stem cells

"BABYKILLER!" :p

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Postby Defwa » Fri May 22, 2015 1:02 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Defwa wrote:Your point is poorly targeted. You can avoid the problem by just killing the unborn and then you get some good use out of the stem cells

"BABYKILLER!" :p

Precisely, the Illtopilosian delegate is advocating baby killing
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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Fri May 22, 2015 1:48 pm

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"Like Reader's Digest, only lazier."

World Assembly tries to corner 'youth incest' market, but will it work?

K-SPAN's hit "diplomacy" reality series took an unexpected plot turn this week when Daisy introduced a repeal of Sexual Privacy Act. Not only when it turned out the repeal was actually expecting to pass in the sex-crazed General Assembly, but also when peculiar remarks began to issue from repeal opponents, who, far from simply expressing concern over eroding personal freedoms, actually professed to extol the virtues of incest, claiming "it's not as serious a problem in itself as a lot of people think," "not at all dangerous," and beseeching the assembly to vote the repeal down "for the sake of human dignity."

It was a likely baffling display for many viewers, until one wise diplomat invoked a name that helped put all the pieces together: "Joffrey."

Yes, it seems that incest is the Cool New Thing among kids these days, at least if you go by plotlines in their favorite shows, like Game of Thrones or some of its more softcore alternatives, such as the adult-film series Brother and Sisters Are Doin' It for Themselves -- and now World Assembly wants a piece of the action. The show had already dropped hints of this new direction of theirs last year, when diplomats suggested that incest should not be a problem in the WA -- as "there might be space aliens whose alien biochemistry means that inbreeding isn't genetically harmful to them" -- and when it was revealed that Susa and Capt. Chiang are actually cousins (although the latter is likely a hoax; frankly, it would be more believable if they were space aliens).

"You know like a few years ago when Glee came out, and suddenly being gay was the cool new fad, and then practically every show on television had a main character that was gay? Well, that's kind of what's happening here," said Kent Rucker, a culture critic for TV Filth Weekly. "Clearly K-SPAN is angling for more youth viewers."

"I don't really see the point, mind you," he continued. "The entire World Assembly cast is already a bunch of whiny, catty, drunken adolescents; you'd think they already had the youth demographic nailed down."
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Postby The United Neptumousian Empire » Fri May 22, 2015 1:51 pm

"Children conceived through incest have as much right to exist as you or I, ambassadors.

Incest is not a vile offence because of the very small likelihood it could adversely impact the child, it's vile because it's a brother having sexual relations with his own sister. Such is an abomination, in and of itself. Such people are sick, and need to be rehabilitated."
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Postby Merlinton » Sat May 23, 2015 7:24 am

Land of Boggaire wrote:
Statevia wrote:It is time for the World Assembly to stop it's self righteous civil liberties talk. Governments have the perfect right to make incest illegal seeing as incest is a dangerous act.


Incest, the sexual activity between relations, is not at all dangerous, I am far more in danger while driving my car than while sleeping with my dear auntie, I can personally assure you of that! Only having babies from incest is dangerous due to the risks of genetic abnormalities, which can be tackled through education, contraception and neutering offenders. There is a clear distinction between incest (which some just find irrationally abhorrent) and a baby being born from incest (danger of genetic abnormality). Ripping up an excellent piece of legislation that protects billions of people, for this, is madness! We should leave the people with the right to their sexual privacy, the very reason the Sexual Privacy Act was established in the 1st place.

Thank you.


If you go to the original legislation, nothing is mentioned about incest and it's all around a beneficial act that limits government interference in any individual's sexual life. It also states that each nation may set an age of consent, as long as it is fair and equal to all genders and sexual preferences. It never mentions incest, and anyway I completely agree with you. Incest is not a problem unless a baby results. Adequate education and contraception will allow consensual incest to take place safely.

So instead of repealing an important act with many excellent outcomes, why didn't someone just add a new sub-act banning incest? Or even just leave each nation to decide its own policy on incest?

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Postby The Dark Star Republic » Sat May 23, 2015 7:39 am

Merlinton wrote:So instead of repealing an important act with many excellent outcomes, why didn't someone just add a new sub-act banning incest? Or even just leave each nation to decide its own policy on incest?

"Because amendments are illegal."

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Postby Bears Armed Mission » Sat May 23, 2015 7:44 am

The Dark Star Republic wrote:
Merlinton wrote:So instead of repealing an important act with many excellent outcomes, why didn't someone just add a new sub-act banning incest? Or even just leave each nation to decide its own policy on incest?

"Because amendments are illegal."
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"Hwhat's that, the fifth ambassador so far during this discussion who didn't already know about the 'No amendments' rule?"

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Postby Palakistan » Sat May 23, 2015 12:51 pm

Defwa wrote:
Illtopilosia wrote:To all people against the repealing of the Sexual Privacy Act,

Is it not unkind to allow a weakened child to struggle through life, always at a disadvantage to colleagues, peers, friends and others.
Is it not a burden on the Health Service, having to deal with multiple issues.

This is why we SHOULD repeal the Sexual Privacy Act

Your point is poorly targeted. You can avoid the problem by just killing the unborn and then you get some good use out of the stem cells

The Armed Republic of Palakistan is disgusted at your viewpoint. Preventing incest prevents the deformities.
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Postby Blaccakre » Sat May 23, 2015 12:57 pm

Palakistan wrote:
Defwa wrote:Your point is poorly targeted. You can avoid the problem by just killing the unborn and then you get some good use out of the stem cells

The Armed Republic of Palakistan is disgusted at your viewpoint. Preventing incest prevents the deformities.

Agreed. We're shocked how many nations are actually arguing that a WA law forcing all nations to legalize incest is okay because incest is okay.
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Postby Defwa » Sat May 23, 2015 1:21 pm

Palakistan wrote:
Defwa wrote:Your point is poorly targeted. You can avoid the problem by just killing the unborn and then you get some good use out of the stem cells

The Armed Republic of Palakistan is disgusted at your viewpoint. Preventing incest prevents the deformities.

We can be disgusted at each other all day. See how far it gets us
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Postby Statevia » Sat May 23, 2015 1:28 pm

Land of Boggaire wrote:So, we should leave the Sexual Privacy Act as it is, and make giving birth to an incest baby illegal instead. Incestual lovers should be allowed to take responsibility for their own actions, the same as everyone else. This is why I propose education, contraception, and also neutering offenders! :)

Well, the health care system would still have a defective baby who would cost the state huge amounts of money.
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Postby Palakistan » Sat May 23, 2015 4:03 pm

Defwa wrote:
Palakistan wrote:The Armed Republic of Palakistan is disgusted at your viewpoint. Preventing incest prevents the deformities.

We can be disgusted at each other all day. See how far it gets us

Not far since this repeal will be enacted.
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