[PASSED] Repeal "Sexual Privacy Act"

[Knootoss]

"Amendments are illegal. A repeal is the only means of addressing the situation. Genetic counselling, as you suggest, would be much preferable to a ban, but even that would not be permitted with the resolution in place."

~ Daisy Chinmusic
Legislative Intern

"Oh dear, sweet girl. I understand that you're well-meaning, but that's technically not entirely... true. Nothing in the existing resolution stops member state governments from offering genetic counselling or advice!"

Contribution by,

Ambassador Rozemijn Reuvelkamp
World Assembly representative for the Dutch Democratic Republic of Knootoss

[Old Hope]

"Amendments are illegal. A repeal is the only means of addressing the situation. Genetic counselling, as you suggest, would be much preferable to a ban, but even that would not be permitted with the resolution in place."

~ Daisy Chinmusic
Legislative Intern

"Oh dear, sweet girl. I understand that you're well-meaning, but that's technically not entirely... true. Nothing in the existing resolution stops member state governments from offering genetic counselling or advice!"

Contribution by,

Ambassador Rozemijn Reuvelkamp
World Assembly representative for the Dutch Democratic Republic of Knootoss

But it stops member states to require the needed counseling.

[Knootoss]

"... and?"

[Land of Boggaire]

Not to conceive (accidents will always happen anyway), only to give birth. We need to educate the people on the severe perils of babies born from incest, not legislate on their sexual practises.

Its folly to outlaw any private consensual sexual practise since its private, it will make it more private so it becomes unpoliceable, not stop it! We cant stop human desire. Leave it out in the open where it can be tackled with education and resources (like free contraception etc).

There is no reason to repeal this Act, it will be an great injustice!

[Nabta Playa]

Not to conceive (accidents will always happen anyway), only to give birth. We need to educate the people on the severe perils of babies born from incest, not legislate on their sexual practices.

Its folly to outlaw any private consensual sexual practice since its private, it will make it more private so it becomes un-policeable, not stop it! We cant stop human desire. Leave it out in the open where it can be tackled with education and resources (like free contraception etc).

There is no reason to repeal this Act, it will be an great injustice!

The Grand-Arch-Hegemon of Nabta Playa applauds the representative from the Land of Boggaire.

[Defwa]

"Oh dear, sweet girl. I understand that you're well-meaning, but that's technically not entirely... true. Nothing in the existing resolution stops member state governments from offering genetic counselling or advice!"

Contribution by,

Ambassador Rozemijn Reuvelkamp
World Assembly representative for the Dutch Democratic Republic of Knootoss

But it stops member states to require the needed counseling.

I don't see any mandate against requiring sexual education for all people. Seems like everyone should be educated about the risks and benefits of sex and how to handle both. Regardless of whether they're doing their brother, their boyfriend or their brother's boyfriend.

[Bears Armed Mission]

"Being concerned about the risk of potential genetic problems due to excessive in-breeding, and considering that the resolution in question goes beyond what we consider appropriate for international legislation anyhows, we have cast our vote for this repeal."


Artorrios o SouthWoods,
ChairBear,
Bears Armed Mission at the World Assembly.

[The Dark Star Republic]

Seems like everyone should be educated about the risks and benefits of sex and how to handle both.

OOC: Then perhaps those whining about this repeal might rethink their whining about the WA legislating on sex education. You have brought this repeal upon yourselves by not addressing the situation in the years since the SPA passed.

[Carterheim]

I believe that the Sexual Privacy Act should not be abolished do to the health concerns that it poses to our people.

[Kakhovske]

Drinking does harm. Eating junk food does harm. Even crossing the road can do harm. These all place a "burden" on the state. Yet no-one is advocating the banning of these. Of course, it is the state's responsability to ensure people are aware of the problems incest can cause, through education etc, but it is still the state's responsability to care for them. People must also accept other peoples customs, even if it contravenes their own moral code. No, this act should not be repealed.

[The Dark Star Republic]

Drinking does harm. Eating junk food does harm. Even crossing the road can do harm.

"No one is proposing banning self-harming actions.

Of course, it is the state's responsability to ensure people are aware of the problems incest can cause, through education etc, but it is still the state's responsability to care for them.

"A pity, then, that the WA showed no interest in recognising that responsibility through actually ensuring access to sex education.

People must also accept other peoples customs, even if it contravenes their own moral code.

"No, they mustn't. The WA has quite commonly legislated against "customs", such as forced marriage and marital rape, female genital mutilation, and hunting of endangered species."

~ Daisy Chinmusic
Legislative Intern

[Statevia]

Statevia firmly supports this revolution because of the extreme dangers posed by incest, support this resolution for the future of the worlds children so that they can live in a world where they know that their children will have a happy life.

[Frustrated Franciscans]

The Organic Vegan Commune of Frustrated Franciscans
Official Delegation to the World Assembly
“We praise You, Lord, for Sister Death!”
Friar John Sanders, OFM Ambassador and WA representative
Friar Tuck Ferguson, OFM Assistant Ambassador
Brother Maynard, TOR Keeper of the Holy Hand-grenade

We strongly support this repeal. There are times when governments have a compelling interest in the bedroom. Incest is the most obvious example and the best one to use against this resolution. Therefore we support this repeal.

[Seekeria]

While I'd like the wording prominently quoted and explained where it notes it directly legalizes Incest (instead of allowing all of age sexual activity) I'd have to accept the repealing of this due to health concerns unaddressed on a WA level directly caused by this in regards to "free sex without education and health steps directly imposed with it" as a problem to this previously passed resolution.


As decided I, as does our region's WA delegate and most of The Great American Union (but WA voting in this issue has been slow so I will be flexible in this last trend as well as they "For" decision may vary for the reason besides mine.)

As for the claim (after reading the amendment,) the amendment directly states the support of incest,

Acknowledging that WA Resolution #16, "Sexual Privacy Act", mandates that all member nations legalise incest,

I hereby state to the author of the repeal in no uncertain words:


LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!

[Old Hope]

While I'd like the wording prominently quoted and explained where it notes it directly legalizes Incest (instead of allowing all of age sexual activity) I'd have to accept the repealing of this due to health concerns unaddressed on a WA level directly caused by this in regards to "free sex without education and health steps directly imposed with it" as a problem to this previously passed resolution.


As decided I, as does our region's WA delegate and most of The Great American Union (but WA voting in this issue has been slow so I will be flexible in this last trend as well as they "For" decision may vary for the reason besides mine.)

As for the claim (after reading the amendment,) the amendment directly states the support of incest,

Acknowledging that WA Resolution #16, "Sexual Privacy Act", mandates that all member nations legalise incest,

I hereby state to the author of the repeal in no uncertain words:


LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!

Ambassador, this law does legalize incest. By not allowing exceptions to its restriction ban regarding private sexual acts.

[Alqania]

"The Queendom has voted against this repeal, as we do not find the reason compelling enough", explained Lord Raekevik. "However, we would like to congratulate the author in any case, as our opposition does not stem from any fault or deficit on their part, and we appreciate the succinctness and simplicity of this repeal. In case it passes, we hope this august assembly will not take too long to pass a replacement."

[Statevia]

It is time for the World Assembly to stop it's self righteous civil liberties talk. Governments have the perfect right to make incest illegal seeing as incest is a dangerous act.

[Statevia]

Sure, go ahead with this. It'll be rightfully voted down to oblivion.

Really, it looks like it's going to be passed with a resounding super majority.

[Danasterra]

Delegates and colleagues,

There is no reason to get hostile, in fact we might as well quit debating. A draft has already begun on replacing the SPA, which will surely come back to the GA eventually. While we may lose this battle, the battle for Human Rights and sexual protection is not over.

However I do believe that in the new bill we can and should include that all nations should have the right to ban unsafe sexual practices or those which may lead to health hazards. All are welcome to join the discussion on the replacement bill. I cannot imagine anyone being against a Human Rights bill, so we should work together to make it as clear and concise as possible.

Thank you,

The Office of THE Lord of International Relations Lucas Visaige

[Not Quite Goth]

While I'd like the wording prominently quoted and explained where it notes it directly legalizes Incest (instead of allowing all of age sexual activity) I'd have to accept the repealing of this due to health concerns unaddressed on a WA level directly caused by this in regards to "free sex without education and health steps directly imposed with it" as a problem to this previously passed resolution.


As decided I, as does our region's WA delegate and most of The Great American Union (but WA voting in this issue has been slow so I will be flexible in this last trend as well as they "For" decision may vary for the reason besides mine.)

As for the claim (after reading the amendment,) the amendment directly states the support of incest,

I hereby state to the author of the repeal in no uncertain words:


LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!

Ambassador, this law does legalize incest. By not allowing exceptions to its restriction ban regarding private sexual acts.

This is patently false. Because of the scope of the original ordinance and the syntax at which is accomplishes its goal, it is within reason to outlaw incest as an unconsentable act. I would even argue that this interpretation is encouraged in the wording, which states without irony, "No Nation shall construe the notion of consent in such a way as to summarily deny that capacity to heterosexuals, homosexuals, bisexuals, transsexuals or transgendered individuals," and wholly defines consent as being between individuals not "suffering from a severe mental illness." Arguably, the original resolution has so many holes in it that I'd argue it cannot ensure the rights of sexual liberation to anyone. It simply does not guarantee the protection of anything in its flimsiness.

[Palakistan]

Statevia firmly supports this revolution because of the extreme dangers posed by incest, support this resolution for the future of the worlds children so that they can live in a world where they know that their children will have a happy life.

The Armed Republic of Palakistan support statevia in their statment. The Armed Republic of Palakistan votes aye on the repeal of act #16.

[The Eternal Kawaii]

Drinking does harm. Eating junk food does harm. Even crossing the road can do harm. These all place a "burden" on the state. Yet no-one is advocating the banning of these. Of course, it is the state's responsability to ensure people are aware of the problems incest can cause, through education etc, but it is still the state's responsability to care for them. People must also accept other peoples customs, even if it contravenes their own moral code. No, this act should not be repealed.

Most nations have laws regulating the sale and consumption of alcohol, and may have consumer protection laws banning unhealthy foods as well. And most nations with streets include pedestrian crosswalks and and penalize you for ignoring them.

If the esteemed ambassador is making the case that the State must assume responsibility for its people's welfare, then the State must be given the tools of law to do so. This includes the ability to outlaw harmful sexual practices.

[Wolvershire]

The Dominion has voted in favour of this motion, as the Wolvershirean government realizes the importance of a stable family. Sexual relations with family members, whether consenting or not, jeopardizes that stability and can harm growing children.

[Aaaah Snaaaake]

The nation of Aaaah Snaaaaake feels this repeal is a blatant attack on the sexual freedoms of peoples across the world. Nothing in the original Sexual Privacy Act speaks anything of mandating legalized incest. It blatantly ignores the original act and cherry picks and sensationalizes anything it can within the said act. While this nation believes the act itself can be revised to ease the minds of other nations, repealing the act in and of itself is discriminatory, for it as afforded much more freedom than what it has detracted. Incest, rape, and other horrible sexual assault offenses should be taken into account and revised within the original law proposal, amendments if you will, but repealing completely shall erode decades worth of effort of sexual freedom and equality between consenting, sentient adults. Therefore we shall vote against, and hope those of you that, as we, see the need in the recent proposal to address such concerns, to not make haste and repeal and instead try and resolve the issues within the past proposal to begin with. Repealing the entire act based upon a few concerns will destroy all that the amendment achieved. Please join Aaaah Snaaaake in amending the past Sexual Privacy Act, and not in repealing it.

[Aaaah Snaaaake]

It is time for the World Assembly to stop it's self righteous civil liberties talk. Governments have the perfect right to make incest illegal seeing as incest is a dangerous act.

Aaah Snaaake diplomats would like to remind Statevia that the Sexual Privacy Act gives all governments the right to deal with certain sexual acts - certainly including this one, as long as they do not infringe upon the lives of others - which in the case of incest producing a child, would certainly be infringing upon the rights of the born child in the case of incest. Essentially you are repealing an act that would allow you to make laws about incest all you want and protect those that immoral sexual activities would have a direct, physical, and harmful effect upon. Instead you wish to repeal it, and have less control over such. The Act gives your government many rights - as long as it is between willing adults that is one thing. You could easily include the rights of your own country to include unborn children - thus sexual acts resulting in children born of incest, to be unlawful, but also your own responsibilities. It is not the responsibility of the rest of the world if people in -your- nation decide to produce incest children. That is your nation's responsibility. So before you bring up self-righteous civil liberty talk, please think about what you say in accordance with the current act, and the repeal.... because frankly it makes no sense. If anything the act affords you much more than it takes away, and you can create your own laws concerning incest and familial rape in the first place, and protect the children and genetics of your nation.