OOC:...I think you should spend more time debating in other threads before attempting to draft. Maybe then you'll get the chance to learn how the Roleplaying and GA resolutions actually work instead of simply assuming.
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by Separatist Peoples » Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:25 am
by Polinasia » Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:28 am
Separatist Peoples wrote:Polinasia wrote:
Well all nations really don't do anything, because the whole game is actually a great big role play and well you are really going off subject to say that your nation doesn't use ratios
OOC:...I think you should spend more time debating in other threads before attempting to draft. Maybe then you'll get the chance to learn how the Roleplaying and GA resolutions actually work instead of simply assuming.
by Defwa » Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:56 am
by Polinasia » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:01 am
Defwa wrote:Your definition of "socially backwards' makes it apparent that your motivation is racist and ableist.
I suppose we're all fortunate you're not mandating these subhumans be required to take these jobs. Of course were this to pass, that might as well be what happens- it gives license to nations to draft undesirables into psuedo slavery because if they don't, their government may not be able to function.
You're addressing this from the wrong direction and the fact that you start this with a definition that mandates the segregation of the elderly, the disabled, and whatever race a government has a grudge against is a poor sign regarding your preparedness to undertake this challenge.
by The Dark Star Republic » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:13 am
by Polinasia » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:20 am
The Dark Star Republic wrote:OOC: The problem is you are trying to tackle too much. What your proposal comes down to is "poverty is bad". That's a huge topic area. Proposals are best when they are tightly focus to tackle one single problem. And if once that's passed, there's still more to do? Well, we pass another proposal. We're not running out of ideas! This is why most general "give everyone human rights", "stop all pollution", "give peace a chance" type proposals are doomed: the ideas may be nice but they're simply too expansive to have merit.
I would recommend picking one single aspect of your proposal, whether it's access to education, or distribution of food welfare, or public transit subsidies, or something else, and concentrating solely on that. It will be much easier to deal with as opposed to being encumbered by an omnibus WA welfare package.
by Fortschrin » Wed Mar 04, 2015 9:39 pm
by Imperium Anglorum » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:10 pm
Polinasia wrote:a. 20% of Government jobs should be reserved for the socially backward of society.
Polinasia wrote:b. Government Schools, Colleges and Universities should have special decreased fee for socially backward students.
Polinasia wrote:c. Special train, bus and other transport fair should be introduced for the socially backward population.
Polinasia wrote:d. The minimum food items required by the population should be distributed at low cost to the socially backward through government ration shops.
Polinasia wrote:2.Defines Socially Backward Population as: The part of the population of a nation who are below poverty and are progressing comparatively slow in society and unable to deal with the increasing demands on society like price rise, Technological advancements due to their economic conditions and are Underdeveloped ;[/box]
by Polinasia » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:28 pm
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Polinasia wrote:a. 20% of Government jobs should be reserved for the socially backward of society.
Why should the economically backward be given government positions? Why not the educated and the persons who are actually... qualified for positions?Polinasia wrote:b. Government Schools, Colleges and Universities should have special decreased fee for socially backward students.
They should have a decreased fee? Is this an operative clause or no? Also, in a state of undeveloped nations, it seems that you are presuming here that there even are universities.Polinasia wrote:c. Special train, bus and other transport fair should be introduced for the socially backward population.
This Assembly is no centre for platitudes. Please make operative clauses, not platitudes. Now, if you wanted to say that 'The World Assembly hereby— ... Mandates the extension of infrastructure projects into low-income communities', that would at least be more clear. I have no objection to infrastructure programmes in undeveloped areas of the globe. The question then is: Who will pay for it? Who will design it? What will it do?Polinasia wrote:d. The minimum food items required by the population should be distributed at low cost to the socially backward through government ration shops.
Why does the government have to set up ration shops for this? What is the issue with the private sector accepting government coupons, like how the US runs the SNAP programme?Polinasia wrote:2.Defines Socially Backward Population as: The part of the population of a nation who are below poverty and are progressing comparatively slow in society and unable to deal with the increasing demands on society like price rise, Technological advancements due to their economic conditions and are Underdeveloped ;[/box]
Put this first. Define your terms, then say your operative clauses. Secondarily, this definition is rambling and practically incoherent, since it ends up referring to itself. You shouldn't say 'socially backward', then immediately switch to economic issues. I'm not sure why you say that inabilities to deal with inflation (i.e. rises in price level), which, by the way, affects everyone; technological progress; the fact that they are undeveloped (i.e. a circular definition) are issues.
I don't see how approaching this from a top-down perspective, namely, more welfare (when there is presumably no economic base to support it) and wealth distribution could possibly alleviate poverty. If this is regarding third-world countries, which I presume it is, because you include a section on infrastructure programmes, then it should focus on reforming the government and building infrastructure/health, not creating a welfare state in a place where it is unsustainable.
by Imperium Anglorum » Wed Mar 04, 2015 10:56 pm
by Polinasia » Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:00 pm
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Then address these extremely disparate situations separately.
by Imperium Anglorum » Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:08 pm
by Polinasia » Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:14 pm
Imperium Anglorum wrote:No, address the infrastructure and the other stuff independently. There are some sections which are only applicable to some economic environments and other sections to other economic environments. Don't try to pass a one-size-fits-all bill.
by Bears Armed » Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:45 am
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