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Postby The Blue Bikini Warriors » Fri Feb 21, 2014 11:43 am

More Rest for The Unfortunate

1. The CONDITIONS of current homeless shelters are appalling than others.
2. Please UNDERSTAND the homeless are human beings and deserve the rights to have clean environments.
3. The FOOD needs to have some nutritious value and the preparation needs improving as well.
4. The ESTABLISHMENTS should also provide activities and daytime employment (sheltered workshops).
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Postby Hakio » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:00 pm

It's a good idea for a proposal but I'd stray away from making the blanket statement that all homeless shelters are appalling when some (like our own) are very well maintained in health standards due to frequent inspections and allocation of welfare funds.
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Postby The Blue Bikini Warriors » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:05 pm

Can you make it happen?

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:19 pm

No. We aren't going to invent jobs out of thin air for anybody. Opposed.

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Postby Grays Harbor » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:51 pm

The Blue Bikini Warriors wrote:More Rest for The Unfortunate

1. The CONDITIONS of current homeless shelters are appalling than others.
2. Please UNDERSTAND the homeless are human beings and deserve the rights to have clean environments.
3. The FOOD needs to have some nutritious value and the preparation needs improving as well.
4. The ESTABLISHMENTS should also provide activities and daytime employment (sheltered workshops).

Do you have any evidence at all for #1, or 3? Something besides your unsupported anecdotal assertions? Is there a reason for #2 besides being a variant on the tired hand-wringing "But thiiiink of the chiiiildren!". And why should homeless shelters, which are chronically cash-strapped, now be required to become arcades and employment agencies, as #4 suggests?

Overall, pretty bad start.
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Postby Inventio » Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:24 pm

The Blue Bikini Warriors wrote:More Rest for The Unfortunate

1. The CONDITIONS of current homeless shelters are appalling than others.
2. Please UNDERSTAND the homeless are human beings and deserve the rights to have clean environments.
3. The FOOD needs to have some nutritious value and the preparation needs improving as well.
4. The ESTABLISHMENTS should also provide activities and daytime employment (sheltered workshops).

I would suggest reading the stickies at the top of this forum. This, right now, reads more like a blog than a proposal. It doesn't mandate anything for nations to do, so it has no operative clause. A better draft would look something like this:
The World Assembly,
NOTING that the conditions of many homeless shelters are appalling,
BELIEVING that the homeless should be protected under international law,
SEEKING to improve the quality of life in member nations;
DEFINES "shelter" for the purposes of this resolution as a safe and permanent structure that provides protection from the elements;
MANDATES that nations provide adequate shelter for the homeless population;
REQUIRES these shelters to provide food that is nutritious and adequate for the health of the homeless;
URGES nations to also provide activities and daytime work for the homeless.
That being said, please don't copy my draft. I would be willing to work with you as a coauthor, however.

EDIT: Someone else pointed out that this is redundant anyway.
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Postby Aligned Planets » Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:00 pm

The Blue Bikini Warriors wrote:More Rest for The Unfortunate

1. The CONDITIONS of current homeless shelters are appalling than others.
2. Please UNDERSTAND the homeless are human beings and deserve the rights to have clean environments.
3. The FOOD needs to have some nutritious value and the preparation needs improving as well.
4. The ESTABLISHMENTS should also provide activities and daytime employment (sheltered workshops).

Is this a transnational issue? If it is, nothing in this gives rise to it.

1) Homeless shelters where? Within your own nation? Which others? We don't have homeless shelters; we have a wide variety of high standard housing available for all citizens across several hundred worlds.
2) Redundant; this is implied by various previous resolutions extending rights to all citizens.
3) This is a wide generalisation.
4) Sheltered workshops? Dear gods, perhaps we could re-open the late Victorian workhouses as practised by one of our antecessor nations.+

+This is an IC remark, obviously some parallel version of English poor-houses under the reign of the-then Empress Victoria.
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Postby The Blue Bikini Warriors » Fri Feb 21, 2014 6:30 pm

Separatist Peoples wrote:No. We aren't going to invent jobs out of thin air for anybody. Opposed.
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Postby The Blue Bikini Warriors » Fri Feb 21, 2014 6:33 pm

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Postby Separatist Peoples » Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:54 pm

The Blue Bikini Warriors wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:No. We aren't going to invent jobs out of thin air for anybody. Opposed.
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Do you have an actual argument, or are you going to whine some more, ambassador?

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Postby Bears Armed » Sat Feb 22, 2014 4:19 am

The Blue Bikini Warriors wrote:2. Please UNDERSTAND the homeless are human beings

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Postby Tea Party USA 2 » Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:38 am

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Postby The Great Zedong Dynasty » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:44 pm

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Postby Mieraskya » Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:24 am

Jobs can be made out of nothing like picking dog shot off the sidewalk just to get payed there..... agreed..... I might be the only one to agree with this proposal
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Thu Nov 20, 2014 4:33 am

Mieraskya wrote:Jobs can be made out of nothing like picking dog shot off the sidewalk just to get payed there..... agreed..... I might be the only one to agree with this proposal

"This clearly going nowhere, so why? And jobs of value cannot me just invented. Paying individuals to pick up dog shit is more expensive then just fining owners for failure to curb their dog."

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