by Glen-Rhodes » Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:47 am
by Point Breeze » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:15 am
Thane of WA Affairs for Wintreath
by Glen-Rhodes » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:35 am
Point Breeze wrote:Article 4 is quite vague, and I'm sure there will be some RP'ers that will take objection to it. Just what kind of powers will we be giving the WATC over our national laws?
by The Black Hat Guy » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:21 pm
by Auralia » Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:15 pm
Glen-Rhodes wrote:“Anti-competitive practices” in this resolution means any unilateral or multilateral agreements or actions that limit or harm competition in an economic market, and are regulated by a government agency.
Glen-Rhodes wrote:Laws that support or facilitate anti-competitive practices are subject to World Assembly Trade Commission dispute settlement.
by Glen-Rhodes » Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:43 pm
Auralia wrote:What is a "unilateral...agreement[]"?
Auralia wrote:Does this clause fall afoul of the HoC rule? In addition, does this clause mandate the use of WATC dispute settlement, or simply clarify that it is an option?
by The Saturnian Republic » Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:14 pm
Frattastan: Someone just give (Osiris) a founder and block regional controls.
Sedge: I'd prefer the admins to officially recognise their status as a warzone.
by Free South Califas » Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:59 pm
by Glen-Rhodes » Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:03 pm
The Saturnian Republic wrote:We are in support of this, except for one cosmetic detail. In Article II, it says "Member states are recommended to", which doesn't quite sit right with me. Try "strongly urged" or something similar. Using recommended sounds weird, and reminds me of getting a dinner recommendation from a hotel clerk.
Free South Califas wrote:"Limit or harm competition" in what sense? Is there any reason for a voluntary federation of workplace councils and community assemblies to be worried about this draft? (ETA: I don't see one at the moment, nor any particular reason to oppose it.)
by Free South Califas » Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:04 pm
by The Eternal Kawaii » Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:42 pm
by Glen-Rhodes » Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:15 am
The Eternal Kawaii wrote:We note that this proposal is listed as "Mild", whereas the proposal it's to replace is "Significant". Are we walking back from a commitment to free trade here?
by Urcea » Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:19 am
by Bears Armed » Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:30 am
by Brocwika » Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:35 am
by Free South Califas » Sat Jun 08, 2013 9:38 am
The Califan WA Detachment would support that. More importantly, does anything in this draft act to limit the possibility of establishing a standard in competition laws later?Glen-Rhodes wrote:The Eternal Kawaii wrote:We note that this proposal is listed as "Mild", whereas the proposal it's to replace is "Significant". Are we walking back from a commitment to free trade here?
It's not walking back from free trade, but rather freeing up room for member states to manage their own competition laws. The World Assembly is stepping away from role as direct regulator, and becoming a facilitator of cooperation, and settling disputes where they arise. If there's strong support for requiring member states to in good faith establish competition laws, that can be added.
Brocwika wrote:This proposal will never work, as it's very important for competition in an economy.
by Glen-Rhodes » Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:21 pm
Bears Armed wrote:Could a clause be added specifically allowing nations to temporarily permit and maybeso even help to organise some "anti-competitive practices" in order to stabilise the distribution of limited supplies in wartime, for example by allocating different companies access to different sections of the market (OOC: which the RL UK considered advisable during WW2...), without having to worry about possible WATC intervention?
Free South Califas wrote:The Califan WA Detachment would support that. More importantly, does anything in this draft act to limit the possibility of establishing a standard in competition laws later?
by Bears Armed » Sun Jun 09, 2013 5:40 am
Glen-Rhodes wrote:Bears Armed wrote:Could a clause be added specifically allowing nations to temporarily permit and maybeso even help to organise some "anti-competitive practices" in order to stabilise the distribution of limited supplies in wartime, for example by allocating different companies access to different sections of the market (OOC: which the RL UK considered advisable during WW2...), without having to worry about possible WATC intervention?
WAR#209, World Assembly Trade Rights, allows member states to engage in discriminatory trade practices "to protect vital national security interests during serious international disputes or times of war." Does that cover the concerns raised here?
by Preconstitutional Utopia » Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:37 am
by Free South Califas » Tue Jun 11, 2013 7:13 am
by The Saturnian Republic » Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:57 am
Glen-Rhodes wrote:It's grammatically correct. I chose it consciously, because we keep seeing so much strong urging coming from the World Assembly, it's nice to break the monotony once in a while.
Frattastan: Someone just give (Osiris) a founder and block regional controls.
Sedge: I'd prefer the admins to officially recognise their status as a warzone.
by Glen-Rhodes » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:00 pm
Bears Armed wrote:OOC: It does, yes. (Can't remember offpaw, wonder if that clause there was due to a suggestion from me? I'll have to check, when I've got the time...) In that case, do you need to add the usual boilerplate about "Except as any earlier resolution tht is still in force might specify" in order to avoid illegality for contradiciton of #209?
by Araraukar » Tue Jun 18, 2013 1:32 am
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Glen-Rhodes » Tue Jun 18, 2013 1:30 pm
Araraukar wrote:By the way, could you please not use center alignment in the draft? On non-wide screen that alignment makes the first post five mile tall, as each line contains only a few words.
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