by Linux and the X » Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:57 pm
by Imperium Londinium » Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:33 pm
by Linux and the X » Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:38 pm
Imperium Londinium wrote:I see no reason why this can't be submitted as a separate bill, it deals with the physically disabled, whereas the other deals solely with the mentally disabled. This doesn't replace it, it is a different thing altogether, and if it is treated as such then I would support it, however I do not support an attempt to repeal the Rights of the Disabled Act.
by Imperium Londinium » Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:45 pm
Linux and the X wrote:REQUIRES that any person appointed a guardian or representative on the basis of intellectual disability be permitted to have their input considered to the extent reasonable given their intellectual ability, to reject an appointment and have another made instead, to have the guardianship order as narrowly-tailored as reasonable given their intellectual ability, and for reconsideration of the necessity of the guardianship order,
by Linux and the X » Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:00 pm
Imperium Londinium wrote:1. If you repeal the aforementioned act, this is referring to a repealed act, and so is house of cards, ergo illegal.
2. Everything written here is stated in the Rights of the Disabled act,
3. Your reference to "intellectual ability" would seem to indicate intelligence to be a factor, which is inherently discriminatory, whereas the Rights of the Disabled Act uses the term Sapience, which has an entirely different meaning.
by Alqania » Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:21 pm
by Linux and the X » Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:43 pm
by Abacathea » Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:48 pm
Linux and the X wrote:While, as you can see from the edit statement at the bottom of the post, I have already made some edits, in the interests of transparency henceforth I will also be posting this proposal on my Wiki, so a history of edits will be available.
by Itariam » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:08 pm
by Araraukar » Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:02 pm
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Linux and the X » Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:09 pm
by Sovreignry » Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:52 am
Itariam wrote:*snip*
by Linux and the X » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:14 pm
by Frisbeeteria » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:28 pm
THE DEFENCE OF HUMANS
Having a proper implementation of these people, the Assembly should discuss more about human rights, implement projects that defend life, how to bring progress to others. Ways that will bring our generations and plans to have them?
According to a profile I see here is that the forums are discussed in egoistic thoughts, but what about the future, there is nothing better than seeing the joy on someone's face, so I'm PLEASE this is the law to all countries commitments having a responsibility for the lives of everyone from the rich, poor, disabled, skinny, fat etc ... We have a big commitment as rulers apply comfort to all, Jesus said "LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR LIKE YOURSELF ..." I am not discussing religion because Jesus is not a religion, we LOVE what we do and who we serve any way we defend all and end this farce of ancient culture and society that is just ignorant applying works in people's minds to hate each other and then comes some blame God, the mother's father and others. Let's bring peace where all the joy and all are equal to each other, the money does not differentiate anyone but society did differentiate.
PLEASE LET U.S. LOVE ONE ANOTHER, THAT IS THE ONLY HOPE THIS WORLD!
* Federal Republic of Itaraiam *
Official President
by Auralia » Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:35 pm
Linux and the X wrote:FORBIDS the burden of proof of necessity upon the disabled person requiring accommodation be no greater than proportional to the costs not born by the disabled person of providing the accommodation,
Linux and the X wrote:RECOMMENDS that member Statestoimpose substantially similar requirements upon the private sector,
Linux and the X wrote:REQUIRES that member States consider the input of any person to whom a guardian or representative is appointed on the basis of their disability, to the extent reasonable given their intellectual ability, for the purposes of rejecting an appointment and having another made instead, having the guardianship order as narrowly-tailored as reasonable given their intellectual ability, and reconsidering the necessity of the guardianship order,
Linux and the X wrote:REQUESTS that member States compile reports, containing no personally-identifiable information, on modifications to existing public buildings and infrastructure, accommodations provided by the private sector, and rejected and unusual public-sector accommodation requests, to be archived and made available by the Universal Library Coalition,
by Linux and the X » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:02 pm
Linux and the X wrote:REQUESTS that member States compile reports, containing no personally-identifiable information, on modifications to existing public buildings and infrastructure, accommodations provided by the private sector, and rejected and unusual public-sector accommodation requests, to be archived and made available by the Universal Library Coalition,
Is there any real need for this? It seems like a waste of money at first glance.
by Auralia » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:15 pm
Linux and the X wrote:The level of proof required for accommodation must be proportional — or less — to the cost to the provider of providing it
Linux and the X wrote:If your government find it a waste of money, they may ignore the request. Unless you're the ULC, this clause doesn't actually mandate you do anything.
by United Federation of Canada » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:21 pm
STRONGLY ENCOURAGES member States to modify existing buildings and infrastructure to include necessary accommodations,
RECOMMENDS member States to impose substantially similar requirements upon the private sector,
FORBIDS the burden of proof of necessity upon the disabled person requiring accommodation be no greater than proportional to the costs not born by the disabled person of providing the accommodation,
REQUESTS that member States compile reports, containing no personally-identifiable information, on modifications to existing public buildings and infrastructure, accommodations provided by the private sector, and rejected and unusual public-sector accommodation requests, to be archived and made available by the Universal Library Coalition,
by Wheeled States of Bifid » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:40 pm
Linux and the X wrote:FORBIDS the burden of proof of necessity upon the disabled person requiring accommodation be no greater than proportional to the costs not born by the disabled person of providing the accommodation,
Afforess wrote:This is how Democracy dies - with thunderous applause.
by Linux and the X » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:24 pm
United Federation of Canada wrote:FORBIDS the burden of proof of necessity upon the disabled person requiring accommodation be no greater than proportional to the costs not born by the disabled person of providing the accommodation,
Why? This creates a huge loophole and opens the whole system up to fraud.
REQUESTS that member States compile reports, containing no personally-identifiable information, on modifications to existing public buildings and infrastructure, accommodations provided by the private sector, and rejected and unusual public-sector accommodation requests, to be archived and made available by the Universal Library Coalition,
Unneeded committee and drain on WA financial resources for no reason. Nations should be perfectly capable of handling this themselves without WA oversight.
With the following changes, we would fully support, and ask our delegate to support as well.
by United Federation of Canada » Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:44 pm
Linux and the X wrote:United Federation of Canada wrote:
Why? This creates a huge loophole and opens the whole system up to fraud.
What sort of loopholes or abuse are you concerned about?
Unneeded committee and drain on WA financial resources for no reason. Nations should be perfectly capable of handling this themselves without WA oversight.
With the following changes, we would fully support, and ask our delegate to support as well.
The ULC is not a new committee. It was created by res. 78; this merely clarifies that it is permitted and required to archive and make available these reports.
What sort of loopholes or abuse are you concerned about?
this merely clarifies that it is permitted and required to archive and make available these reports.
by Wheeled States of Bifid » Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:13 pm
Afforess wrote:This is how Democracy dies - with thunderous applause.
by Linux and the X » Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:31 pm
United Federation of Canada wrote:What sort of loopholes or abuse are you concerned about?
Let's say I am a billionaire, but I really do not want to spend my money on my own care. Should I be granted access to such care, which I have the financial means to pay for by myself while a person in poverty is forced to suffer do to a lack of service capability?
this merely clarifies that it is permitted and required to archive and make available these reports.
Why should the WA care about these things? It is a wholly sovereign matter.
Wheeled States of Bifid wrote:Having given this further consideration I would also like to see stronger wording on the basis that if an able-bodied citizen has a right to something than a citizen with a disability should also have that right.
by Grays Harbor » Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:01 pm
RECOMMENDS member States to impose substantially similar requirements upon the private sectorbe construed to require that all private homes include disabled access whether or not a disabled person requiring such access is in residence or not?
by Linux and the X » Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:09 pm
Grays Harbor wrote:A quick question, if I may...
Would, or could, this sectionRECOMMENDS member States to impose substantially similar requirements upon the private sectorbe construed to require that all private homes include disabled access whether or not a disabled person requiring such access is in residence or not?
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