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[DRAFT] Legalisation of Abortion

Postby Linux and the X » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:01 pm

This is just to have around in case On Abortion ever gets repealed.

(human rights; strong)

REALISING that people occasionally get pregnant without wishing to give birth,

BELIEVING that these people have an inherent right to control their bodies, but

NOTING that some nations currently prevent this,

THE WORLD ASSEMBLY

DEFINES an abortion as the act of terminating a pregnancy,

PROCLAIMS that procuring an abortion is a human right,

MANDATES the following regulations on abortion:

1) Seeking, procuring, providing, or otherwise being involved in an abortion shall be legal in all member States, and no person who seeks, procures, provides, or is otherwise involved in an abortion may be penalised in any way by any member State, except as provided in this resolution or in previous and active legislation by this Assembly,
2) A person who does not hold a valid license to practice medicine may be penalised by a member State for providing a medical abortion within the member State, if other medical procedures require the same licensure by the member State,
a) No member State may require as a condition of receiving or retaining a license to practice medicine an agreement not to provide abortions,
b) Provision of abortion services shall be considered a part of a medical professional's duties,
3) Consent from the individual receiving the abortion must be obtained before providing an abortion,
a) Age shall not be a factor in determining an individual's capacity to consent,
b) A medical professional may provide an abortion without consent to an incapacitated person if the abortion, in the judgment of the professional, will preserve life or health, unless the incapacitated person has previously signed a valid order prohibiting life- or health-preserving treatment,
4) No member State may require waiting periods, return visits, or any medical procedure as a condition of an abortion,
a) Abortion providers may institute such requirements, but member States may not require or direct the institution of such requirements,
i) In the event that abortion providers are government employees, requirements necessary in their professional judgement may be instituted, but such requirements may not be mandated by law,
5) In no case may a person involved in an abortion be required to publicise any part of the abortion, or their or anyone else's involvement, including as a prerequisite to their involvement,

CLARIFIES that any reference to member States above shall also refer to any subdivisions thereof, and to private parties given regulatory authority, and that any reference to law shall also refer to rule, statute, and the like, and

REQUIRES all health care plans, public or private, to cover abortions and any associated expenses.

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Postby Auralia » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:11 pm

Why not let nations decide for themselves? Why does the WA need to get involved in the most controversial debate in recorded history?
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Postby Linux and the X » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:22 pm

This Assembly is currently neutral; this is merely being written in case anyone attempts to change that.
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Postby Cowardly Pacifists » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:25 pm

Auralia wrote:Why not let nations decide for themselves? Why does the WA need to get involved in the most controversial debate in recorded history?

Linux and the X wrote:This is just to have around in case On Abortion ever gets repealed.

It's kind of like a WMD. We don't want to use it. We just need to have it around as a deterrent.

Okay... some of us want to use it...
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:31 pm

BOOOOOO OPPOSED!!!we want tp decide for ourselves whether or not to legalise it and will not have you say otherwize.
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Postby Stedicules » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:32 pm

Wait, the WA made Abortion illegal?
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Postby Quadrimmina » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:32 pm

Linux and the X wrote:This is just to have around in case On Abortion ever gets repealed.

(human rights; strong)

REALISING that people occasionally get pregnant without wishing to give birth,

BELIEVING that these people have an inherent right to control their bodies, but

NOTING that some nations currently prevent this,

THE WORLD ASSEMBLY

DEFINES an abortion as the act of terminating a pregnancy,

PROCLAIMS that procuring an abortion is a human right,

FORBIDS any member State or its subdivisions from penalising any person who seeks, procures, provides, or is otherwise involved in an abortion,

CLARIFIES that those not licensed to practise medicine may still be penalised for providing a medical abortion, and

REQUIRES all health care plans, public or private, to cover abortions.


Any resolution legalizing abortions should include consent. Under this resolution as it stands, you can't penalize someone for forcing an abortion on anyone. Also, it allows anyone to get away with any crime by being "involved in an abortion". That language has lots of loopholes in it.

"You can't penalize me for that murder, I was involved in an abortion!"
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Postby Christian Democrats » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:32 pm

No! Image
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GA#160: Forced Marriages Ban Act (79%)
GA#175: Organ and Blood Donations Act (68%)^
SC#082: Repeal "Liberate Catholic" (80%)
GA#200: Foreign Marriage Recognition (54%)
GA#213: Privacy Protection Act (70%)
GA#231: Marital Rape Justice Act (81%)^
GA#233: Ban Profits on Workers' Deaths (80%)*
GA#249: Stopping Suicide Seeds (70%)^
GA#253: Repeal "Freedom in Medical Research" (76%)
GA#285: Assisted Suicide Act (70%)^
GA#310: Disabled Voters Act (81%)
GA#373: Repeal "Convention on Execution" (54%)
GA#468: Prohibit Private Prisons (57%)^

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Postby Auralia » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:33 pm

Linux and the X wrote:This Assembly is currently neutral; this is merely being written in case anyone attempts to change that.


Technically, it's not completely neutral, since "On Abortion" permits abortion in several cases. Furthermore, it doesn't change the fact that this proposal does not respect the rights of nation-states to make their own decisions about abortion. Frankly, the best thing the WA could do would be to just repeal "On Abortion" and have no resolutions pertaining to abortion at all.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:34 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:No! (Image)

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Postby Auralia » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:34 pm

Cowardly Pacifists wrote:
Auralia wrote:Why not let nations decide for themselves? Why does the WA need to get involved in the most controversial debate in recorded history?

Linux and the X wrote:This is just to have around in case On Abortion ever gets repealed.

It's kind of like a WMD. We don't want to use it. We just need to have it around as a deterrent.

Okay... some of us want to use it...


I thought we agreed to disagree on this issue?
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Postby Cowardly Pacifists » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:35 pm

Auralia wrote:I thought we agreed to disagree on this issue?

Just teasing.
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Postby Linux and the X » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:37 pm

Christian Democrats wrote:No! (Image)

Then don't repeal On Abortion.

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:BOOOOOO OPPOSED!!!we want tp decide for ourselves whether or not to legalise it and will not have you say otherwize.

Then don't repeal On Abortion.

Auralia wrote:Furthermore, it doesn't change the fact that this proposal does not respect the rights of nation-states to make their own decisions about abortion.

What rights?

Stedicules wrote:Wait, the WA made Abortion illegal?

No, but certain members have been throwing up ideas of repealing On Abortion.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:40 pm

Linux and the X wrote:
Christian Democrats wrote:No! (Image)

Then don't repeal On Abortion.

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:BOOOOOO OPPOSED!!!we want tp decide for ourselves whether or not to legalise it and will not have you say otherwize.

Then don't repeal On Abortion.

Auralia wrote:Furthermore, it doesn't change the fact that this proposal does not respect the rights of nation-states to make their own decisions about abortion.

What rights?

Stedicules wrote:Wait, the WA made Abortion illegal?

No, but certain members have been throwing up ideas of repealing On Abortion.

well if on abortion is repealed i will NOT stand by and let you kill my nations future citezens with this proposal.
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Postby Linux and the X » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:41 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:well if on abortion is repealed i will NOT stand by and let you kill my nations future citezens with this proposal.

No one would be killed; abortion is an incredibly low-risk procedure that in some cases saves lives.
If you see I've made a mistake in my wording or a factual detail, telegram me and I'll fix it. I'll even give you credit for pointing it out, if you'd like.
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Postby Christian Democrats » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:42 pm

Linux and the X wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:well if on abortion is repealed i will NOT stand by and let you kill my nations future citezens with this proposal.

No one would be killed; abortion is an incredibly low-risk procedure that in some cases saves lives.

Please define kill.
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GA#231: Marital Rape Justice Act (81%)^
GA#233: Ban Profits on Workers' Deaths (80%)*
GA#249: Stopping Suicide Seeds (70%)^
GA#253: Repeal "Freedom in Medical Research" (76%)
GA#285: Assisted Suicide Act (70%)^
GA#310: Disabled Voters Act (81%)
GA#373: Repeal "Convention on Execution" (54%)
GA#468: Prohibit Private Prisons (57%)^

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:43 pm

Linux and the X wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:well if on abortion is repealed i will NOT stand by and let you kill my nations future citezens with this proposal.

No one would be killed; abortion is an incredibly low-risk procedure that in some cases saves lives.

:palm: i was talking about the fetuses. besides if a woman wants to have an abortion she can move to another country, i will not condone abortion here.
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Postby Sanctaria » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:44 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Linux and the X wrote:No one would be killed; abortion is an incredibly low-risk procedure that in some cases saves lives.

:palm: i was talking about the fetuses. besides if some bitch wants to have an abortion she can move to another country, i will not condone abortion here.


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Postby Auralia » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:45 pm

Linux and the X wrote:
Auralia wrote:Furthermore, it doesn't change the fact that this proposal does not respect the rights of nation-states to make their own decisions about abortion.

What rights?


Abortion has become so controversial that the WA should stop trying to enforce anyone's views on the issue. The topic should no longer be considered within the realm of international law, and should be left to individual nations. Neither "On Abortion" nor this proposal does so.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:45 pm

Sanctaria wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote: :palm: i was talking about the fetuses. besides if some bitch wants to have an abortion she can move to another country, i will not condone abortion here.


Flattering.

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Postby Auralia » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:45 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Linux and the X wrote:No one would be killed; abortion is an incredibly low-risk procedure that in some cases saves lives.

:palm: i was talking about the fetuses. besides if some bitch wants to have an abortion she can move to another country, i will not condone abortion here.


That kind of language has no place in a civilized debate.
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Postby Flibbleites » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:45 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Linux and the X wrote:Then don't repeal On Abortion.


Then don't repeal On Abortion.


What rights?


No, but certain members have been throwing up ideas of repealing On Abortion.

well if on abortion is repealed i will NOT stand by and let you kill my nations future citezens with this proposal.

Considering some of the positions you've been promoting, who would want to be a citizen of your nation?

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:46 pm

Auralia wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote: :palm: i was talking about the fetuses. besides if some bitch wants to have an abortion she can move to another country, i will not condone abortion here.


That kind of language has no place in a civilized debate.

sorry ill edit it out.
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Postby Apollonesia » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:00 am

I'm sure glad that I left the WA, because this is absurd.

Linux and the X wrote:PROCLAIMS that procuring an abortion is a human right,

Made me laugh.
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Postby Linux and the X » Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:01 am

Christian Democrats wrote:Please define kill.

Ambassador, are you truly so uninformed as to be unaware of the definition of kill?

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:besides if a woman wants to have an abortion she can move to another country, i will not condone abortion here.

What if a man wants an abortion?

Apollonesia wrote:I'm sure glad that I left the WA, because this is absurd.

Linux and the X wrote:PROCLAIMS that procuring an abortion is a human right,

Made me laugh.

While unsure why that is funny, we are happy to have been able to give you a chance to laugh.
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