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Postby Christian Democrats » Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:41 am

The Cat-Tribe and I were working on a rough draft of this proposal before he retired. I've finished the proposal on my own.

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GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
Right to Work Act
A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.

Category: Human Rights | Strength: Strong | Proposed by: Image Christian Democrats


The General Assembly,

Recognizing the inherent dignity of all people,

Advocating the rights to life and liberty and the rights of workers,

Promoting the wellbeing and general welfare of the peoples of its member states,

Asserting the intrinsic goodness of work but that overwork is a grave evil,

Enacts the following:

SECTION 1. Every person of full age has the right to work.

SECTION 2. Every person of full age has the right to free choice of employment and the right to pursue a career of his own choice.

SECTION 3. Every person who works for a given employer is entitled to fair and equal treatment in relation to other workers similarly situated and equal pay for equal work.

SECTION 4. No wage earner, as a condition of employment, shall be required to work for a given employer more than twenty-seven percent of the time in a given week. Member states may enact limits of less time than this requirement.

SECTION 5. Every person who is rendered incapable of working by illness that is severe and temporary is entitled to a reasonable amount of time of leave from work by his employer until he recovers or is once again able to work.

SECTION 6. Every member state shall guarantee for workers in its jurisdiction a minimum amount of parental leave immediately preceding and immediately after the births of offspring.

SECTION 7. Employers are encouraged to engage in profit sharing, to contribute to the retirement plans of employees, and to grant employees time for vacation and time to meet obligations other than those related to their employment.

SECTION 8. Member states should consider enacting measures of social security such as retirement pensions and disability insurance and strongly are encouraged to dedicate public funds to the education, training, and retraining of those who are unemployed and able to work. Each member state should seek full employment for its populace.

SECTION 9. Sections 1 and 2 of this resolution do not apply to individuals serving criminal sentences.

SECTION 10. Member states, through domestic law, shall ensure that the rights, entitlements, and requirements set forth in this resolution are respected and followed. A member state may violate this resolution only to further an important governmental interest (e.g., military conscription, in accordance with requirements set forth in other General Assembly resolutions, is permissible despite Section 2) or when explicitly allowed by another General Assembly resolution.
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Postby Christian Democrats » Tue Jul 26, 2011 10:42 am

Right to Work in the Real World


African Charter on Human and Peoples' Rights, art. 15

Every individual shall have the right to work under equitable and satisfactory conditions, and shall receive equal pay for equal work.


Brazilian Constitution

Art. 5, § 13 The practice of any work, trade or profession is free, observing the professional qualifications which the law shall establish.

Art. 6 Education, health, work, habitation, leisure, security, social security, protection of motherhood and childhood, and assistance to the destitute, are social rights, as set forth by this Constitution.


Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union, art. 15, §§ 1-2

1. Everyone has the right to engage in work and to pursue a freely chosen or accepted occupation.

2. Every citizen of the Union has the freedom to seek employment, to work, to exercise the right of establishment and to provide services in any Member State.


German Basic Law, art. 12

1. All Germans shall have the right freely to choose their occupation or profession, their place of work and their place of training. The practice of an occupation or profession may be regulated by or pursuant to a law.

2. No person may be required to perform work of a particular kind except within the framework of a traditional duty of community service that applies generally and equally to all.

3. Forced labour may be imposed only on persons deprived of their liberty by the judgment of a court.


Indian Constitution, art. 41

The State shall, within the limits of its economic capacity and development, make effective provision for securing the right to work, to education and to public assistance in cases of unemployment, old age, sickness and disablement, and in other cases of undeserved want.


International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, art. 6

1. The States Parties to the present Covenant recognize the right to work, which includes the right of everyone to the opportunity to gain his living by work which he freely chooses or accepts, and will take appropriate steps to safeguard this right.

2. The steps to be taken by a State Party to the present Covenant to achieve the full realization of this right shall include technical and vocational guidance and training programmes, policies and techniques to achieve steady economic, social and cultural development and full and productive employment under conditions safeguarding fundamental political and economic freedoms to the individual.


Italian Constitution, art. 4

1. The Republic recognises the right of all citizens to work and promotes those conditions which render this right effective.

2. Every citizen has the duty, according to personal potential and individual choice, to perform an activity or a function that contributes to the material or spiritual progress of society.


Japanese Constitution, art. 27, § 1

All people shall have the right and the obligation to work.


Mexican Constitution, art. 5, § 1

No one can be compelled to render personal services without due remuneration and without his full consent, excepting labor imposed as a penalty by the judiciary, which shall be governed by the provisions of clauses I and II of Article 123.


Polish Constitution

Art. 65, § 1 Everyone shall have the freedom to choose and to pursue his occupation and to choose his place of work. Exceptions shall be specified by statute.

Art. 65, § 4 A minimum level of remuneration for work, or the manner of setting its levels shall be specified by statute.

Art. 65, § 5 Public authorities shall pursue policies aiming at full, productive employment by implementing programmes to combat unemployment, including the organization of and support for occupational advice and training, as well as public works and economic intervention.

Art. 66, § 2 An employee shall have the right to statutorily specified days free from work as well as annual paid holidays; the maximum permissible hours of work shall be specified by statute.

Art. 67, § 1 A citizen shall have the right to social security whenever incapacitated for work by reason of sickness or invalidism as well as having attained retirement age. The scope and forms of social security shall be specified by statute.

Art. 67, § 2 A citizen who is involuntarily without work and has no other means of support, shall have the right to social security, the scope of which shall be specified by statute.


Russian Constitution, art. 37, § 1

Labour is free. Everyone shall have the right to freely use his labour capabilities, to choose the type of activity and profession.


South Korean Constitution, art. 32, §§ 1-4

1. All citizens shall have the right to work. The State shall endeavor to promote the employment of workers and to guarantee optimum wages through social and economic means and shall enforce a minimum wage system under the conditions as prescribed by Act.

2. All citizens shall have the duty to work. The State shall prescribe by Act the extent and conditions of the duty to work in conformity with democratic principles.

3. Standards of working conditions shall be determined by Act in such a way as to guarantee human dignity.

4. Special protection shall be accorded to working women, and they shall not be subjected to unjust discrimination in terms of employment, wages and working conditions.


Spanish Constitution, § 35.1

All Spaniards have the duty to work and the right to work, to the free choice of profession or trade, to advancement through work, and to a sufficient remuneration for the satisfaction of their needs and those of their families. Under no circumstances may they be discriminated on account of their sex.


Taiwanese Constitution, art. 15

The right of existence, the right of work, and the right of property shall be guaranteed to the people.


Universal Declaration of Human Rights, art. 23, §§ 1-3

1. Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.

2. Everyone, without any discrimination, has the right to equal pay for equal work.

3. Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration ensuring for himself and his family an existence worthy of human dignity, and supplemented, if necessary, by other means of social protection.
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Postby Left wing Marxism » Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:00 am

Supported by The Proletarian Council of Left Wing Marxism.It is my countries inherent duty to assist in the struggle of Workers worldwide and this Act would help all of them.
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Postby Monikian WA Mission » Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:09 am

SECTION 4. No person, as a condition of employment, shall be required to work more than twenty-five percent of the time in a given week, and member states shall retain full freedom to enact limits of less time than this requirement.


"We would have a problem with this. Monikian standard is 33.3% of time per a given quarter. We don't know what a week is. Also agricultural labor tends to not follow any type of standard imposed by sapient beings. The crops must be harvested when they are ready and not before, likewise sowing is incredibly busy as well. Lactating animals must be milked every day without fail, and other animals must be fed two or three times per day. Also given the nature of Monikian law, males raising their families are considered to be fully employed. Parenting cannot be limited to 33.3% of all time much less 25%!

SECTION 7. Every worker who is in the later stages of pregnancy or recently has given birth is entitled to paid maternity leave for an amount of time that shall be established by domestic law.


"Our main problem with Section 7. is the word 'maternity'. Males are the ones who eject the lingpod after a period of incubation in his lingpod-flap. The female laying the lingpod usually can go back to work immediately. It is the lingpod ejection that is more physically traumatic.

SECTION 8. Employers are encouraged to engage in profit sharing,


"Under Monikian law, enterprises are owned by the workers that work them. As there is no currency there is no profit, and such section would be absurd for us to implement.

to contribute to the retirement plans of employees,


"The concept of retirement does not exist in Monkiah. For a period of time the citizen's duty to the society is to learn (Childhood 0-10 years), then to defend the society (very young adulthood 10-25 years), then to work in a productive field (adulthood 25-125 years), and then to assist their young in raising their own family (Old Age 125+). Under our law the elderly are heads of their household, females in particular, and their role as grandparent is considered full employment as most families do not separate. Even so many older females prefer to continue doing productive work anyway--we have found that forcing people to give up working actually kills them.

SECTION 9. Member states should consider enacting measures of social security such as retirement pensions, disability insurance, and unemployment insurance and strongly are encouraged to dedicate public funds to the education, training, and retraining of those able to work. Furthermore, each member state should seek full employment for its populace.


"Unnecessary. In Monkiah children's job is to go to school, young adults is to be in the military, and adults is to raise families or work in production of some sort. As all enterprises are owned by the workers who work them, vacations are rarely if ever granted as they are deemed to be laziness and frowned upon by our society as a whole. As to education, this is the state's responsibility, we have no unemployment against which to insure (child rearing is considered productive work) and those who are disabled, provided they have worked previously are guaranteed subsistence. Naturally of course defective lingpods are terminated before the child is born--we consider allowing a being that would be deformed, if it were to be born, to be cruelty.

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Postby Cardoness » Tue Jul 26, 2011 11:38 am

The General Assembly,

Recognizing the inherent dignity of all people,

Advocating the rights to life and liberty and the rights of workers,

Promoting the wellbeing and general welfare of the peoples of its member states,

Asserting the intrinsic goodness of work but that overwork is a grave evil,
Not really sure how this resolution advocates for the rights of life or liberty of anyone. Too much of a good thing is a bad thing? Not sure you need the "Asserting" header.

Declares the following:

SECTION 1. Everyone capable of work has a right and duty to work.
Every capable person has the duty to work? A person is not free to choose to not work? What is work? What if my nation were to declare that actors or authors or stay at home moms/dads were not working?

SECTION 2. Everyone has the right to free choice of employment and the right to pursue a career of his own choice.
In light of clause 10 this is acceptable, though clause 10 should be divided and the second part included in this clause or be added directly under.

SECTION 3. Every worker is entitled to just compensation, fair treatment in relation to other employees similarly situated, and equal pay for equal work.
Good in theory, but very difficult to define and implement in practice.

SECTION 4. No person, as a condition of employment, shall be required to work more than twenty-five percent of the time in a given week, and member states shall retain full freedom to enact limits of less time than this requirement.
The military, police, fire, medical, and a host of other civil service jobs, not to mention several private sector management jobs just became 9-5 jobs.

SECTION 5. Any person who works for an employer longer than such a limit as described in Section 4 is entitled to additional compensation at a higher rate for the superfluous time worked.
SUPERFLUOUS? If I am in the middle of a medical emergency when the doctor hits 42 hours for the week, any work he continues to do is unnecessary? What about a soldier fighting in the defense of his country in the 43rd hour of an invasion?

SECTION 6. Every person who is rendered incapable of working by illness that is severe and temporary is entitled to a reasonable amount of time of leave from work by his employer until he recovers or is once again able to work, and employers are encouraged to grant some or total compensation to workers who are taking such leave to ensure that such persons are capable of meeting the basic needs of themselves and their dependents.
What if they were the cause of their own accident? A company is to continue paying them for not working because of their own stupidity? Who determines when they are able to resume work?

SECTION 7. Every worker who is in the later stages of pregnancy or recently has given birth is entitled to paid maternity leave for an amount of time that shall be established by domestic law.
Done, one day before and one day after.

SECTION 8. Employers are encouraged to engage in profit sharing, to contribute to the retirement plans of employees, to grant employees time for vacation and time to meet obligations other than those related to their employment, and to take other measures respectful of the intrinsic dignity of their employees.

SECTION 9. Member states should consider enacting measures of social security such as retirement pensions, disability insurance, and unemployment insurance and strongly are encouraged to dedicate public funds to the education, training, and retraining of those able to work. Furthermore, each member state should seek full employment for its populace.
At least these are only "encouraged" clauses.

SECTION 10. Member states not already in compliance with the mandatory provisions of this resolution shall enact appropriate legislation to implement the requirements of and ensure the rights recognized in this resolution, and no member state shall violate the mandatory provisions of or rights recognized in this resolution unless such a violation furthers a legitimate governmental interest and there is rational basis for such a violation (e.g., military conscription, in accordance with requirements set forth in other General Assembly resolutions, is permissible despite Section 2 of this resolution).[/box]
Effective loophole for the entire resolution.

All things considered, Cardoness cannot lend support to this resolution and is strenuously opposed.
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Postby Buenia » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:31 pm

This is good in theory however it is impossible, at least in capitalist soceities, to hit zero percent unemployment. sometimes there are just not enough jobs; other times, there are enough jobs for everyone yet they do not suit the tastes of the worker. should a physics student be forced to spend years working in fast food? i'm sure he would prefer not to. this would not be the most efficient outcome. the republic of buenia agrees with the concept but cannot approve of the resolution.

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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:38 pm

No, this is civil/human/sapient rights, strong, on the basis of promoting a right to provide services, the right to work. It doesn't target a specific industry.

Also, too long in micromanagement.
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Postby Separatist Peoples » Tue Jul 26, 2011 1:52 pm

Let me start out by stating that we are opposed to any acts that take an active and large part in modifying our domestic economic policy.

The General Assembly,

Recognizing the inherent dignity of all people,

Advocating the rights to life and liberty and the rights of workers,

Promoting the wellbeing and general welfare of the peoples of its member states,

Asserting the intrinsic goodness of work but that overwork is a grave evil,


I would say that the General Assembly should avoid attaching of a sense of morality onto economic-based resolution. Please stick to logical arguments.

Declares the following:

SECTION 1. Everyone capable of work has a right and duty to work.

Personally, I would disagree. The only rights that the WA should mandate are the rights to life and anything that sustains it. However, this is not the case, and we accept that. However, we draw the line at expecting that member nations need to guarantee work for its citizens. A government exists to protect the rights of the people, not supply them with work.

SECTION 2. Everyone has the right to free choice of employment and the right to pursue a career of his own choice.

Correct, excepting, of course, military employment and conscription. That is, if I remember, covered later, though.

SECTION 3. Every worker is entitled to just compensation, fair treatment in relation to other employees similarly situated, and equal pay for equal work.

While we would agree, we believe that this should be decided at a national level.
SECTION 4. No person, as a condition of employment, shall be required to work more than twenty-five percent of the time in a given week, and member states shall retain full freedom to enact limits of less time than this requirement.

No. That is an arbitrary decision that should remain in the hands of the national government at the most.

SECTION 5. Any person who works for an employer longer than such a limit as described in Section 4 is entitled to additional compensation at a higher rate for the superfluous time worked.

gain, this should not be mandated by the World Assembly. This should be decided by companies. Workers agree to abide by a company's terms upon hiring. If that company has made clear that there is no "overtime", and yet the employee decides to agree to work anyways, that is the employee's problem, not the General Assembly's. The same goes for the clause of a "higher rate".

SECTION 6. Every person who is rendered incapable of working by illness that is severe and temporary is entitled to a reasonable amount of time of leave from work by his employer until he recovers or is once again able to work, and employers are encouraged to grant some or total compensation to workers who are taking such leave to ensure that such persons are capable of meeting the basic needs of themselves and their dependents.

National governments handle legislation on the matter. We disagree that the international community needs any hand in these policies.

SECTION 7. Every worker who is in the later stages of pregnancy or recently has given birth is entitled to paid maternity leave for an amount of time that shall be established by domestic law.

Maternity leave? Perhaps. Paid leave? Let the national government figure that out. We believe that having a child is a large enough responsibility to merit a parent either giving up full-time work, or finding the proper services to care for the child as the parents continue to work.

SECTION 8. Employers are encouraged to engage in profit sharing, to contribute to the retirement plans of employees, to grant employees time for vacation and time to meet obligations other than those related to their employment, and to take other measures respectful of the intrinsic dignity of their employees.

Its a good thing that this is encouraged, because we disagree that any company should be forced to engage in profit-sharing.

SECTION 9. Member states should consider enacting measures of social security such as retirement pensions, disability insurance, and unemployment insurance and strongly are encouraged to dedicate public funds to the education, training, and retraining of those able to work. Furthermore, each member state should seek full employment for its populace.
Again, we are glad to see that this is optional.

SECTION 10. Member states not already in compliance with the mandatory provisions of this resolution shall enact appropriate legislation to implement the requirements of and ensure the rights recognized in this resolution, and no member state shall violate the mandatory provisions of or rights recognized in this resolution unless such a violation furthers a legitimate governmental interest and there is rational basis for such a violation (e.g., military conscription, in accordance with requirements set forth in other General Assembly resolutions, is permissible despite Section 2 of this resolution).

We are heartened to see that this resolution is clarified, but we believe you can remove the section "in accordance with requirements set forth in other General Assembly Resolutions". We believe that this is self explanatory.


Overall, we are very strongly opposed. Within the C.D.S.P., nearly all of the companies and corporations follow the guidelines laid down, but are not in any way forced to enact such policies. Companies that do follow these ideas often times do well, as they attract workers far more readily then other companies. However, we would be remiss if we believed we could force these employers to enact such policies. It would be a violation of the Confederate Dominion's policy of noninterference in industry.

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Christian Democrats wrote:The Cat-Tribe and I were working on a rough draft of this proposal before he retired. I've finished the proposal on my own.


GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
Right to Work Act
A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.

Category: Social Justice | Strength: Strong | Proposed by: (Image) Christian Democrats


The General Assembly,

Recognizing the inherent dignity of all people,

Advocating the rights to life and liberty and the rights of workers,

Promoting the wellbeing and general welfare of the peoples of its member states,

Asserting the intrinsic goodness of work but that overwork is a grave evil,

Declares the following:

SECTION 1. Everyone capable of work has a right and duty to work.

SECTION 2. Everyone has the right to free choice of employment and the right to pursue a career of his own choice.

SECTION 3. Every worker is entitled to just compensation, fair treatment in relation to other employees similarly situated, and equal pay for equal work.

You want the WA to dictate what a private corporation pays their employees?

SECTION 4. No person, as a condition of employment, shall be required to work more than twenty-five percent of the time in a given week, and member states shall retain full freedom to enact limits of less time than this requirement.

A week being 975 earth years long on my hypothetical planet.
SECTION 5. Any person who works for an employer longer than such a limit as described in Section 4 is entitled to additional compensation at a higher rate for the superfluous time worked.

superfluous?
Not the right word choice surely?
Unnecessary as in "more than enough?"
SECTION 6. Every person who is rendered incapable of working by illness that is severe and temporary is entitled to a reasonable amount of time of leave from work by his employer until he recovers or is once again able to work, and employers are encouraged to grant some or total compensation to workers who are taking such leave to ensure that such persons are capable of meeting the basic needs of themselves and their dependents.

employers don't pay this in my lands, it's paid by disability insurance.
SECTION 7. Every worker who is in the later stages of pregnancy or recently has given birth is entitled to paid maternity leave for an amount of time that shall be established by domestic law.

Bugger that. They got pregnant. It's not the company's fault that they were so foolish.
SECTION 8. Employers are encouraged to engage in profit sharing, to contribute to the retirement plans of employees, to grant employees time for vacation and time to meet obligations other than those related to their employment, and to take other measures respectful of the intrinsic dignity of their employees.

I pay them. That's it.
SECTION 9. Member states should consider enacting measures of social security such as retirement pensions, disability insurance, and unemployment insurance and strongly are encouraged to dedicate public funds to the education, training, and retraining of those able to work. Furthermore, each member state should seek full employment for its populace.

Yes, and nobody should get sick and everything should be happy.
I'll seek it but it won't ever be achieved.
SECTION 10. Member states not already in compliance with the mandatory provisions of this resolution shall enact appropriate legislation to implement the requirements of and ensure the rights recognized in this resolution, and no member state shall violate the mandatory provisions of or rights recognized in this resolution unless such a violation furthers a legitimate governmental interest and there is rational basis for such a violation (e.g., military conscription, in accordance with requirements set forth in other General Assembly resolutions, is permissible despite Section 2 of this resolution).


Sounds like a massive step towards socialism to me. I have no plan on supporting this.

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I believe Cardoness and Separatist Peoples have voiced my concerns adequately. Opposed.
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Postby Knootoss » Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:24 pm

This is an absolutely horrid, piece of trash. Another attempt at a "universal socialism omnibus act", after the last one was just repealed in disgrace. What I find especially disingenuous, though, is that the resolution peddles lots of different constitutions that mention the phrase "right to work" but then proceeds to micromanage almost every aspect of economic life in a way that no constitution, let alone an international organisation, ever would.

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Postby Belschaft » Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:25 pm

A concern of mine is that you never quantify anything here, allowing member nations/companies to set ridiculously low standards; 10 minutes of paid maternity leave, for example, would be legal under this. If you want to legislate on sometihng as important as this, at least give it some teeth.
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Postby Knootoss » Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:26 pm

Belschaft wrote:A concern of mine is that you never quantify anything here, allowing member nations/companies to set ridiculously low standards; 10 minutes of paid maternity leave, for example, would be legal under this. If you want to legislate on sometihng as important as this, at least give it some teeth.


Waaait. You want EVEN MORE micromanagement?

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Postby Belschaft » Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:47 pm

Knootoss wrote:
Belschaft wrote:A concern of mine is that you never quantify anything here, allowing member nations/companies to set ridiculously low standards; 10 minutes of paid maternity leave, for example, would be legal under this. If you want to legislate on sometihng as important as this, at least give it some teeth.


Waaait. You want EVEN MORE micromanagement?

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And no, what I want is some real minimum standards of protection for individuals in employment.
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Postby Christian Democrats » Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:52 pm

I've decided to couple this proposal with a reintroduction of my proposal to repeal the Living Wage Act, which actually is micromanagement.
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Tue Jul 26, 2011 3:53 pm

Belschaft wrote:
Knootoss wrote:
Waaait. You want EVEN MORE micromanagement?

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And no, what I want is some real minimum standards of protection for individuals in employment.


We already have those. This is simply unnecessary.
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Postby Rupture Farms co » Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:01 pm

Knootoss wrote:This is an absolutely horrid, piece of trash. Another attempt at a "universal socialism omnibus act", after the last one was just repealed in disgrace. What I find especially disingenuous, though, is that the resolution peddles lots of different constitutions that mention the phrase "right to work" but then proceeds to micromanage almost every aspect of economic life in a way that no constitution, let alone an international organisation, ever would.

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I second this.

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Postby Lowell Leber » Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:02 pm

SECTION 4. No person, as a condition of employment, shall be required to work more than twenty-five percent of the time in a given week, and member states shall retain full freedom to enact limits of less time than this requirement.


In seasonal industries such as agriculture, construction, fishing, or even tourism this would be detrimental if not insane. Opposed on this point as well as many others.

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Postby Heningrad » Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:07 pm

i fully support this
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Postby Vocatus » Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:27 pm

While we support aspects of this, we don't believe that fusing multiple issues into a single bill is the way to go.

We suggest instead splitting these into several distinct bills.

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Postby Morlago » Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:10 am


GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
Right to Work Act
A resolution to reduce income inequality and increase basic welfare.

Category: Social Justice | Strength: Strong | Proposed by: (Image) Christian Democrats

I am unsure about the category. Human Rights seems to fit too.

The General Assembly,

Recognizing the inherent dignity of all people,

Advocating the rights to life and liberty and the rights of workers,

Promoting the wellbeing and general welfare of the peoples of its member states,

Asserting the intrinsic goodness of work but that overwork is a grave evil,

Agreed.

Declares the following:

SECTION 1. Everyone capable of work has a right and duty to work.

Everyone capable of working has the duty to work? People do not have the choice of being unemployed? This even discourages retirement. Get rid of the word duty, please.

SECTION 2. Everyone has the right to free choice of employment and the right to pursue a career of his own choice.

Agreed.

SECTION 3. Every worker is entitled to just compensation, fair treatment in relation to other employees similarly situated, and equal pay for equal work.

Agreed.

SECTION 4. No person, as a condition of employment, shall be required to work more than twenty-five percent of the time in a given week, and member states shall retain full freedom to enact limits of less time than this requirement.

Micromanagement. This should be decided by national governments. Plus, if you use RL time measurements, this would mean everyone can only work 6 hours per day on average at normal rate, highly improbable for restaurants, salespeople etc.

SECTION 5. Any person who works for an employer longer than such a limit as described in Section 4 is entitled to additional compensation at a higher rate for the superfluous time worked.

Agreed.

SECTION 6. Every person who is rendered incapable of working by illness that is severe and temporary is entitled to a reasonable amount of time of leave from work by his employer until he recovers or is once again able to work, and employers are encouraged to grant some or total compensation to workers who are taking such leave to ensure that such persons are capable of meeting the basic needs of themselves and their dependents.

Agreed.

SECTION 7. Every worker who is in the later stages of pregnancy or recently has given birth is entitled to paid maternity leave for an amount of time that shall be established by domestic law.

Agreed.

SECTION 8. Employers are encouraged to engage in profit sharing, to contribute to the retirement plans of employees, to grant employees time for vacation and time to meet obligations other than those related to their employment, and to take other measures respectful of the intrinsic dignity of their employees.

Agreed.

SECTION 9. Member states should consider enacting measures of social security such as retirement pensions, disability insurance, and unemployment insurance and strongly are encouraged to dedicate public funds to the education, training, and retraining of those able to work. Furthermore, each member state should seek full employment for its populace.
It seems a bit weird to encourage full employment when you also encourage retirement programs. For me, that sentence is unnecessary.


Is the top part about enacting measures to comply with this legislation really needed?

Overall, we will support when the suggested changes have been made.
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Postby Kelssek » Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:36 am

Christian Democrats wrote:I've decided to couple this proposal with a reintroduction of my proposal to repeal the Living Wage Act, which actually is micromanagement.


I'm frankly incredulous at this given the much more wide-ranging scope of this proposal, when the Living Wage Act is far more narrow and focused. Moreover, there isn't anything approaching a proper replacement in this proposal, nor any reason the Living Wage Act needs to be repealed to allow this. Quite honestly, we suspect the ambassador is engaging in nothing more than disingenuous self-promotion, hoping to replace a perfectly good and well-drafted resolution with vague fluff just to put another notch by their name.

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Postby Grays Harbor » Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:54 am

The only thing we can see that this yotz is missing is a pious "Think of the Children!" quote. We cannot fathom any possible means of salvaging this and turning it into an acceptable proposal, so we are opposed.
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Postby Bears Armed » Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:43 am

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SECTION 4. No person, as a condition of employment, shall be required to work more than twenty-five percent of the time in a given week, and member states shall retain full freedom to enact limits of less time than this requirement.


In seasonal industries such as agriculture, construction, fishing, or even tourism this would be detrimental if not insane.

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Postby Eternal Yerushalayim » Wed Jul 27, 2011 6:36 am

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