by Bergnovinaia » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:11 am
by Umbra Ac Silentium » Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:12 pm
The Holy Therns wrote:Your thought pattern is so bizarre I can't even be offended anymore.
by Charlotte Ryberg » Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:48 pm
by Bergnovinaia » Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:49 pm
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:I would personally support a repeal of GA#60 and this one becoming a replacement. Hence, the tasks of the NDRO could be shifted to the Nuclear Emergency Response Department (NERD).
by Charlotte Ryberg » Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:51 pm
Bergnovinaia wrote:Charlotte Ryberg wrote:I would personally support a repeal of GA#60 and this one becoming a replacement. Hence, the tasks of the NDRO could be shifted to the Nuclear Emergency Response Department (NERD).
(Are you serious though, beyond the awesome acronym joke. )
Also, if you think this is a good replacement, you definaetly think it duplicate GA #60?
by Bergnovinaia » Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:54 pm
Charlotte Ryberg wrote:Bergnovinaia wrote:
(Are you serious though, beyond the awesome acronym joke. )
Also, if you think this is a good replacement, you definaetly think it duplicate GA #60?
They are effectively the same in topic, exposing the shortcomings of GA#60. Therefore, Ms. Harper recommended the repeal of the resolution concerned. If you like, I'll author that. The arguments will cover the lack of precautions and land assessment which is one of the factors of a disaster.
by Charlotte Ryberg » Thu Mar 17, 2011 3:56 pm
Bergnovinaia wrote:Charlotte Ryberg wrote:They are effectively the same in topic, exposing the shortcomings of GA#60. Therefore, Ms. Harper recommended the repeal of the resolution concerned. If you like, I'll author that. The arguments will cover the lack of precautions and land assessment which is one of the factors of a disaster.
Sure... I'm not very good at repeal arguements so that'd be great if you did that.
by Moronist Decisions » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:34 pm
BELEIVING that both civilians and non-nuclear power facility personnel should not be in a potentially life-threating situation should a melt-down occur;
5. ASSIGNS the duty of managing nuclear melt-downs to the nation which the melt-down occurs in, including, but not limited to the evacuation of populations surrounding the plant, assessing when it is possible to re-enter the area devastated by the melt-down, etc.
5. REQUIRES each nation to prepare a documented plan for reducing the risk of nuclear meltdowns and managing nuclear meltdowns and other related accidents occurring on its territory, including, but not limited to the evacuation of populations surrounding the plant, assessing when it is possible to re-enter the area devastated by the melt-down.
REQUIRES each nation to forward a copy of their plans for managing and reducing the risk of nuclear meltdowns to the Nuclear Disaster Reponse Organization.
by Moronist Decisions » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:42 pm
by Bergnovinaia » Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:00 pm
Moronist Decisions wrote:Snip
by Bergnovinaia » Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:00 pm
Moronist Decisions wrote:Snip
by Charlotte Ryberg » Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:04 pm
Bergnovinaia wrote:Moronist Decisions wrote:Snip
I accepted your proposal for section 5, however, adding the part about the NDRO would make it illegal I think (sort of like a house of cards violation.)
Oh, and the category and stenght will come last. Initially, I was thinking I would mention something about allowing power facilities to dump uranium waste in certain areas, but that kind of is bi-polar with the rest of the proposal.
by Moronist Decisions » Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:11 pm
A Proposal must be able to stand on its own even if all referenced Resolutions were struck from existance; however, you may assign duties to an existing committee. Should the Resolution that creates the committe be Repealed, the committee will continue to exist, but in a reduced capacity.
by Charlotte Ryberg » Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:21 pm
Moronist Decisions wrote:The question is whether to submit this or to repeal 60 and propose a replacement. Adding duties to a committee is allowed.A Proposal must be able to stand on its own even if all referenced Resolutions were struck from existance; however, you may assign duties to an existing committee. Should the Resolution that creates the committe be Repealed, the committee will continue to exist, but in a reduced capacity.
by Darenjo » Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:24 pm
by Bergnovinaia » Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:48 pm
Darenjo wrote:(Semi-OOC): Hmm...you cover errors made by people, but what about those caused by nature (like the one in Japan)?
REQUIRES that any future plants must be built in areas believed to be by the nation building to be the safest possible area in the potentially event of a natural disaster.
by Mousebumples » Thu Mar 17, 2011 6:56 pm
Bergnovinaia wrote:Is this not sufficient?REQUIRES that any future plants must be built in areas believed to be by the nation building to be the safest possible area in the potentially event of a natural disaster.
by Immortal Empires » Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:28 pm
3. REQUIRES that any future plants must be built in areas believed to be by the nation building to be the safest possible area in the potentially event of a natural disaster.
REALIZING, however, that despite nuclear power facilities generate little waste, nuclear power facilities have the risk of melting down, especially in the wake of a natural disaster or mismanagement by plant personnel;
by Bergnovinaia » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:11 pm
Mousebumples wrote:Bergnovinaia wrote:Is this not sufficient?
I can't speak for Darenjo, obviously. However, I recall reading somewhere (OOC) that in California, the nuclear plants fuel sources have special sensors to change halt their activity in case of a seismic event. I don't have a source handy (sorry), but requiring or encouraging a clause along those lines - without being specific to earthquake necessarily (i.e. fire, flood, etc.) - may be beneficial to the overall message of the proposal draft.
Immortal Empires wrote:ooc: This is my first post on the site!
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I agree with most of the points brought up except for number 3.3. REQUIRES that any future plants must be built in areas believed to be by the nation building to be the safest possible area in the potentially event of a natural disaster.
I think that this needs to:
a) be more clearly defined. Does this mean in areas susceptible to earthquakes and other natural disasters, or does it also include places that could come under attack. And how could you accurately tell where is the absolute safest place. Keep in mind that when you use the word safest you leave no wiggle room what so ever.
b) There is only one "safest" place for a reactor, thus (I hope I'm not misunderstanding ) a country could only build 1 reactor, because there is only one safest place.REALIZING, however, that despite nuclear power facilities generate little waste, nuclear power facilities have the risk of melting down, especially in the wake of a natural disaster or mismanagement by plant personnel;
Keep in mind that this little waste is very radioactive and dangerous. Most of the time it is stored in salt caves to prevent water/moister getting into the radioactive byproduct (waste).
by Darenjo » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:31 pm
by Bergnovinaia » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:55 pm
Darenjo wrote:I would like a clause mandating proper storage of nuclear waste, unless that WA's "covered" by the nuclear waste safety resolution (which, incidentally, I'm considering authoring a repeal for, along with SCfGH).
The part about nature is very acceptable now. Thank you.
8) NECESSITATES that WA nations shall store radioactive waste in areas that meet at bare minimum the following requirements:
a) Is a reasonable distance from any population--that is, no civilians or other people that are not employed to manage the waste should ever come in contact with the waste.
b) Is not near a river or water body that is tapped to serve the water needs of a population.
c) Is not near an eco-system which includes endangered species or species that are hunted to serve the food needs of a population.
d) Is in a containment vessel which the nation can chose to consturct how they wish.
by Darenjo » Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:10 pm
by Bergnovinaia » Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:22 pm
Darenjo wrote:That is very good. Thank you for meeting our concerns.
by Cool Egg Sandwich » Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:02 pm
Bergnovinaia wrote:
Nuclear Power Safety Accord
Category: Advancement of Industry (???)
Area of Effect: Environmental Deregulation (???)
Description: The WA,
RECOGNIZING that numerous WA member nations use nuclear power to generate a substantial amount of energy for their nations;
APPLAUDING these nations for using nuclear power since Nuclear Power is an incredibly eco-friendly energy producing source, especially when compared to traditional coal and gas alternatives;
REALIZING, however, that despite nuclear power facilities generate little waste, nuclear power facilities have the risk of melting down, especially in the wake of a natural disaster or mismanagement by plant personnel;
BELIEVING that both civilians and non-nuclear power facility personnel should not be in a potentially life-threating situation should a melt-down occur;
"...personnel should not be in a potentially life-threatening situation..."
Hereby:
1. DEFINES “nuclear power” as power gained through the use of nuclear fusion or fission which often involves uranium or other radioactive materials.
2. MANDATES that member nations must take extreme precautions in selecting qualified personnel as to prevent a melt-down due to sapient error.
3. REQUIRES that any future plants must be built in areas believed to be by the nation building to be in a safe area in the potentially event of a natural disaster.
REQUIRES that any future plants must be built in areas believed to be safe in the event of a natural disaster.
a) Ideally, this safe area should be away from major fault lines, large bodies of water (i.e. and ocean), well-known tornado alleys, etc.
b) If the above cannot be achieved, the nation shall choose an area they believe to be theoretically the safest in their opinion.
"...the nation shall choose an area they believe to be theoretically the safest available in their nation.
c) Furthermore, preventive measure should be taken since in certain nations, the ideal safe building site for a nuclear power facility could be in the direct path of a potentially devostating natural disaster.
"... in the direct path of a potentially devastating natural disaster."
d) These precautions could be, but are not limited to, the establishment of sensors along known fault lines to alert facilites of growing sismic actives--indicating when to turn the plants reactor off, the placement of buoys in surrouding water bodies to ensure that if a tidal wave is coming the plant will be offline, etc.
"... along known fault lines to alert facilities of growing seismic activity..." / "... the placement of buoys in surrounding water bodies..."
4. DEMANDS that both civilian and plant workers living or working in the vicinity of any nuclear power plant shall be provided with adequate information regarding the potential risk they will be in, should an accident occur.
5. REQUIRES each nation to prepare a documented plan for reducing the risk of nuclear meltdowns and managing nuclear meltdowns and other related accidents occurring on its territory, including, but not limited to the evacuation of populations surrounding the plant, assessing when it is possible to re-enter the area devastated by the melt-down.
6. DEMANDS each nation to forward a copy of their plans for managing and reducing the risk of nuclear meltdowns to the Nuclear Disaster Reponse Organization.
7. ENCOURAGES other WA nations to contribute to melt-down devastated nations and regions in any way possible.
8) NECESSITATES that WA nations shall store radioactive waste in areas that meet at bare minimum the following requirements:
a) Is a reasonable distance from any population--that is, no civilians or other people that are not employed to manage the waste should ever come in contact with the waste.
b) Is not near a river or water body that is tapped to serve the water needs of a population.
c) Is not near an ecosystem which includes endangered species or species that are hunted to serve the food needs of a population.
d) Is in a containment vessel which the nation can chose to consturct how they wish.
by Moronist Decisions » Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:04 pm
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