You're the one that started with comparing vaccines to anything car-related. Also, not going to answer more on this threadjack, so we don't get bobbed on the noggin by the mods.
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by Araraukar » Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:32 pm
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Separatist Peoples » Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:54 pm
Societatis Frigidus wrote:
IC: Vaccination is not about personal choice or personal freedom only - it is also about responsibility to those whose lives depend on herd immunity. It is about responsibility to those who are sick and unable to shield themselves.
by Normlpeople » Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:14 pm
Separatist Peoples wrote:"Which is the core of any resistance you get, ambassador. While a professional statesman's position, like ours, will allow us to see a little reason on the matter, too many nations here seem to appoint some bloke off the street to represent them here."
by Separatist Peoples » Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:19 pm
Normlpeople wrote:Separatist Peoples wrote:"Which is the core of any resistance you get, ambassador. While a professional statesman's position, like ours, will allow us to see a little reason on the matter, too many nations here seem to appoint some bloke off the street to represent them here."
"Oh come on Ambassador, you know some nations have a struggling economy, and how else are you willingly going to get someone to enter this snakepit?"
by Araraukar » Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:32 pm
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Separatist Peoples » Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:39 pm
Araraukar wrote:Separatist Peoples wrote:"On threat of general court martial, like I was. And then promptly forgotten about."
"'It will be a great opportunity for you', they said. 'Looks good on your resume', they said," Janis muttered hostilely. "They failed to say I'd be stuck here for years with no alcohol allowed!"
by Araraukar » Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:50 pm
Separatist Peoples wrote:Digging through his unusually voluminous briefcase, Bell withdraws a half-full and bottle of clear liquid. Cracking the top, he takes a sip, coughs vigorously, peels off a piece of tape with the fading words "PAINT THINNER" on it, and offers Janis the bottle.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Societatis Frigidus » Sat Apr 05, 2014 1:11 am
by Araraukar » Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:02 am
Societatis Frigidus wrote:The entire point of this proposal is not to infringe on national sovereignty, but to guarantee individual rights. Claiming that the matter of mandatory vaccination is of "national sovereignty" is tantamount to saying that civil liberties like the right to free speech, the right to a fair trial or any other piece of legislation is "national sovereignty" as well.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Societatis Frigidus » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:29 am
Araraukar wrote:I think you're missing the point of what a GA resolution is meant to do. The WA dictates what nations must do, not what people must do. So at the most you could make nations offer free vaccinations for everyone, but you couldn't force people to take them without overstepping the WA's reach and also infringing your precious individual rights.
And to make nations offer free vaccinations, you'd have to convince them to provide even that much free healthcare to their citizens, something that not all nations want to do, for whatever selfish reasons. Not all nations here truly are rational.
by Araraukar » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:46 am
Societatis Frigidus wrote:This resolution os forcing the nation to bless its people with mandatory vaccinations.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Societatis Frigidus » Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:16 am
by Societatis Frigidus » Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:17 am
by Araraukar » Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:22 am
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Separatist Peoples » Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:34 am
Araraukar wrote:Societatis Frigidus wrote:Only someone who wants to see AIDS sufferers and cancer patients dead would not consider that a blessing.
You really can't see a problem with anything MANDATORY and individuals RIGHT TO CHOOSE whether to be vaccinated?
And wtf have HIV and cancer got to do with vaccinations? Hell, you can't give some vaccinations to immunocompromised people without endangering their health.
by Araraukar » Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:07 am
Separatist Peoples wrote:"It seems the author has reached the end of his familiarity with medical science. You cannot vaccinate against cancer or AIDS, as neither are viral infections."
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Societatis Frigidus » Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:13 am
Araraukar wrote:Separatist Peoples wrote:"It seems the author has reached the end of his familiarity with medical science. You cannot vaccinate against cancer or AIDS, as neither are viral infections."
I think he meant giving vaccinations to immunocompromised people, and threw up AIDS and cancer to make an emotional appeal.
by Araraukar » Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:17 am
Araraukar wrote:You really can't see a problem with anything MANDATORY and individuals RIGHT TO CHOOSE whether to be vaccinated?
And wtf have HIV and cancer got to do with vaccinations? Hell, you can't give some vaccinations to immunocompromised people without endangering their health.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Grays Harbor » Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:22 am
Societatis Frigidus wrote:OOC: What category would I place this in? Health Care?
by Araraukar » Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:32 am
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Araraukar » Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:13 am
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Societatis Frigidus » Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:15 am
Araraukar wrote:OOC: You do realize that image spam is frowned at on the forums, right?
by Araraukar » Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:22 am
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Cardoness » Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:51 am
Frustrated Franciscans wrote:We are firmly against the godless, utopian, progressive overreach that a small number of nations in the World Assembly want to impose upon the multiverse...
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