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Postby Osarius » Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:46 am

Ianoia wrote:How do people go about teams improving/declining season to season?

I use a coefficient system based on the one used by UICA (or the RL UEFA system).
I have modifiers for each competition, and calculate ranking points for each season based on results in each competition.

I then edit these values manually when I RP something that might alter a team's performance (e.g. new manager, new ownership, sold their top striker, long-serving captain retired, signed new superstar etc etc) or if it looks like one or two teams are overpowered.
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Postby KIIADSK » Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:40 pm

Is it on excel? If so could you please share it.
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Postby New North Aqmuland » Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:41 pm

Legalese wrote:
Britonisea wrote:
I wish there was.


I've never tried it, but obstensibly any excel scorinator would work, either through an app that allows you to use excel spreadsheets, or via Google Drive. It's not xkoranate, but it'll get the job done.

Just by putting the formulae in the sheets, or how would one go about doing that?
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Postby Saintland » Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:06 pm

New North Aqmuland wrote:
Legalese wrote:
I've never tried it, but obstensibly any excel scorinator would work, either through an app that allows you to use excel spreadsheets, or via Google Drive. It's not xkoranate, but it'll get the job done.

Just by putting the formulae in the sheets, or how would one go about doing that?


You can upload an Excel spreadsheet to Google Drive and Google will convert it to the Google Docs format.
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Postby New North Aqmuland » Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:19 pm

Saintland wrote:
New North Aqmuland wrote:Just by putting the formulae in the sheets, or how would one go about doing that?


You can upload an Excel spreadsheet to Google Drive and Google will convert it to the Google Docs format.

And xkoranate comes in an excel spreadsheet format?
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Postby Gregoryisgodistan » Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:34 pm

New North Aqmuland wrote:
Saintland wrote:
You can upload an Excel spreadsheet to Google Drive and Google will convert it to the Google Docs format.

And xkoranate comes in an excel spreadsheet format?

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Postby New North Aqmuland » Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:47 pm

Gregoryisgodistan wrote:
New North Aqmuland wrote:And xkoranate comes in an excel spreadsheet format?

No

Is there one that does?
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Postby United States of Devonta » Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:55 pm

Any one fill like scorinating a hole tournament for my region, Don't be scared our region is tiny.
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Postby Britonisea » Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:28 pm

United States Of Devonta wrote:Any one fill like scorinating a hole tournament for my region, Don't be scared our region is tiny.


It depends. Tell me more!
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Postby Valnara (Ancient) » Tue Sep 23, 2014 5:39 pm

Can I please have like a tutor help me set up a league using nsfs? I really don't know what 'tf I'm doing
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Postby Koana Islands » Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:09 pm

The baseball NSFS scorinator that allows inning scores to be shown, is the home team (and by that, the team that gets the 'home advantage bonus') the top or bottom team in each individual result? The same question for the American Football scorinator, too.
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Postby Commerce Heights » Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:32 pm

Koana Islands wrote:The baseball NSFS scorinator that allows inning scores to be shown, is the home team (and by that, the team that gets the 'home advantage bonus') the top or bottom team in each individual result? The same question for the American Football scorinator, too.

There is no home advantage in the NSFS3 formula for baseball or American football. In baseball, the home team should be on the bottom so that they bat second; in American football, the order is immaterial.

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Postby Saintland » Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:41 pm

Commerce Heights wrote:
Koana Islands wrote:The baseball NSFS scorinator that allows inning scores to be shown, is the home team (and by that, the team that gets the 'home advantage bonus') the top or bottom team in each individual result? The same question for the American Football scorinator, too.

There is no home advantage in the NSFS3 formula for baseball or American football. In baseball, the home team should be on the bottom so that they bat second; in American football, the order is immaterial.


Where scorinators actually have a working home advantage, however, the home team is generally listed first and that is, generally speaking, the NS Sports convention.
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Postby Microbe42 » Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:21 am

Hi. I am trying to make an excel based football scorinator and I found some advise from another thread a while ago.

Commerce Heights wrote:
Arkolon wrote:How would you calculate the threshold?

With a formula based on their ranks and style modifier.

For example, SQIS uses 0.1 ± 0.07 × (1 − Lower Rank / Higher Rank) × (1 + Style Modifier / 12.5) × Home Advantage. The ± is positive for the team with the higher rank and negative for the team with lower rank. There are several other ways to do it; e.g., some formulas are based on the difference in rank, rather than the ratio.


Commerce Heights wrote:The usual technique is to calculate a threshold for each team to score, based on their ranks and style modifiers, and then to generate a series of random numbers for each team called “attacks”, each one scoring a goal if it is less than the threshold.


Can someone please explain to me how this threshold is supposed to work. By the way, I am familiar with terms like, rank and style modifier. How can this be incorporated into an excel format? I'm just a bit confused.

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Postby Commerce Heights » Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:30 am

Microbe42 wrote:Can someone please explain to me how this threshold is supposed to work. By the way, I am familiar with terms like, rank and style modifier. How can this be incorporated into an excel format? I'm just a bit confused.

Make a row of cells for each team, with one column for each attack (e.g., SQIS gives each team 12 attacks), with a formula like =IF(RAND()<threshold,1,0). Then the sum of each row is your final score.

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Postby Microbe42 » Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:37 am

Commerce Heights wrote:
Microbe42 wrote:Can someone please explain to me how this threshold is supposed to work. By the way, I am familiar with terms like, rank and style modifier. How can this be incorporated into an excel format? I'm just a bit confused.

Make a row of cells for each team, with one column for each attack (e.g., SQIS gives each team 12 attacks), with a formula like =IF(RAND()<threshold,1,0). Then the sum of each row is your final score.


Wow. Thanks a lot!

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Postby Microbe42 » Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:12 pm

Another question. For this formula,
0.1 ± 0.07 × (1 − Lower Rank / Higher Rank) × (1 + Style Modifier / 12.5) × Home Advantage.

By "Style modifier" are the style modifiers from the two teams added up?

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Postby Commerce Heights » Thu Oct 02, 2014 8:36 pm

Microbe42 wrote:Another question. For this formula,
0.1 ± 0.07 × (1 − Lower Rank / Higher Rank) × (1 + Style Modifier / 12.5) × Home Advantage.

By "Style modifier" are the style modifiers from the two teams added up?

Indeed.

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Postby Microbe42 » Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:41 am

Commerce Heights wrote:
Microbe42 wrote:Another question. For this formula,
0.1 ± 0.07 × (1 − Lower Rank / Higher Rank) × (1 + Style Modifier / 12.5) × Home Advantage.

By "Style modifier" are the style modifiers from the two teams added up?

Indeed.


Thank you.

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Postby Mentoville » Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:43 pm

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Postby The Candy Lane » Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:51 pm

New Wolfopolis wrote:
Semarland wrote:Is there any scorinators that run on ChromeOS? :P

Not unless you use some tricks to put Ubuntu on that Chromebook of yours.



I found this very disappointing... But I do have Ubuntu so I'll give it a shot. Any recommendations for a football/soccer scorinator?
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Postby Patistan » Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:30 am

The Candy Lane wrote:
New Wolfopolis wrote:Not unless you use some tricks to put Ubuntu on that Chromebook of yours.



I found this very disappointing... But I do have Ubuntu so I'll give it a shot. Any recommendations for a football/soccer scorinator?


Xkoronate is a scorinator which is widely used.
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Postby Republic of Guadalajara » Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:14 am

Are there any scorinators other than NSFS and xkorinate?

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Postby Indian Empire » Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:24 pm

Republic of Guadalajara wrote:Are there any scorinators other than NSFS and xkorinate?



I have always been trying to find a score simulator. I wish I could a link to those.
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Postby Koana Islands » Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:28 am

In the 'auto racing' event in xkoranate it has a "Starting Grid" checkbox. If that is selected does it factor in how you list the drivers in the groups? If that is the case, is it top to bottom 1st to last or the other way around? Many thanks.

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