International Baseball Slam Discussion Thread V2 (OOC)

[Gregoryisgodistan]

This is the Discussion Thread for the International Baseball Slam. There used to be another one I think but I can't find it and Llama's probably OP anyway since he started this. But now I'm in charge so I should be OP and there's this. Actually we did have a discussion thread and Llama just found it but nevertheless I should be OP as organizer, so mod people will lock that soon hopefully.

Here are the ranks, post-X.

History:

IBS I: hosted by Shadowbourne/Super-Llamaland, championship: Costa Luna beats Shadowbourne 3-0.
IBS II: hosted by Sangti, championship: Gregoryisgodistan beats Sova Empire 3-1.
IBS III: hosted by Super-Llamaland/New Wolfopolis, championship: Gregoryisgodistan beats Nova Anglicana 3-1.
IBS IV: hosted by Gregoryisgodistan, championship: Gregoryisgodistan beats Arana 3-1.
IBS V: hosted by New Wolfopolis/Oakbrook and Calvarie, championship: Super-Llamaland beats Orennana, 3-1.
IBS VI: hosted by Noboru Taiyou, championship: Gregoryisgodistan defeats Abanhfleft in double-elimination final
IBS VII: hosted by Patistan, championship: Gregoryisgodistan beats Super-Llamaland 3-2
IBS VIII: hosted by Gregoryisgodistan, championship: Gregoryisgodistan beats Nova Anglicana 3-0
IBS IX: hosted by Nova Anglicana, championship: Southern Democratic States defeats United States of Devonta 3-2
IBS X: hosted by Frenline Delpha and Schiltzberg, championship: Coconut Isle defeats United States of Devonta 4-1

[Frenline Delpha]

So, does anyone have any idea how to drum up interest for the torunament?

[Super-Llamaland]

Discussion Thread I

[Gregoryisgodistan]

So, does anyone have any idea how to drum up interest for the torunament?

Just get people to RP. We'll be able to do more once the Signup Thread (and ultimately the Evertything thread) go up. Try to get a good mix of active members and new members. The IBS II was my first tournament ever (not my first IBS ever - my first tournament ever, period) and I won, so it can be done. And I find fewer off days mean interest won't decrease as much throughout the tournament, so try to minimize those even if they're customary. Of course, I could be completely wrong, but that's just my experience, take out of it what you want. And don't have too long a break before the start of the tournament, but don't have such a short time that people don't have time to post their rosters and give up before it even starts. I've seen both of those done in this tournament before. I'd be willing to serve as a mentor to you and Schiltzberg if your bid wins since I've hosted this twice before, and I'll do the same for any other new member(s) who may wind up hosting. And of course, I'll encourage people to sign up and RP myself.

[Frenline Delpha]

So, does anyone have any idea how to drum up interest for the torunament?

Just get people to RP. We'll be able to do more once the Signup Thread (and ultimately the Evertything thread) go up. Try to get a good mix of active members and new members. The IBS II was my first tournament ever (not my first IBS ever - my first tournament ever, period) and I won, so it can be done. And I find fewer off days mean interest won't decrease as much throughout the tournament, so try to minimize those even if they're customary. Of course, I could be completely wrong, but that's just my experience, take out of it what you want. And don't have too long a break before the start of the tournament, but don't have such a short time that people don't have time to post their rosters and give up before it even starts. I've seen both of those done in this tournament before. I'd be willing to serve as a mentor to you and Schiltzberg if your bid wins since I've hosted this twice before, and I'll do the same for any other new member(s) who may wind up hosting. And of course, I'll encourage people to sign up and RP myself.

Ahhh. Thanks Greg. IBS XIII was my first tournament, and I would hate to see it die.

[Super-Llamaland]

POSTS PER IBS

1: 78
2: 107
3: 107
4: 121
5: 125
6: 181
7: 69
8: 118
9: 73

PARTICIPANTS PER IBS

1. 8
2. 8
3. 12
4. 16
5. 24
6. 40
7. 28
8. 28
9. 20

[Frenline Delpha]

POSTS PER IBS

1: 78
2: 107
3: 107
4: 121
5: 125
6: 181
7: 69
8: 118
9: 73

PARTICIPANTS PER IBS

1. 8
2. 8
3. 12
4. 16
5. 24
6. 40
7. 28
8. 28
9. 20

Dang. IBS XI must have been a swinging tournament.

[Gregoryisgodistan]

POSTS PER IBS

1: 78
2: 107
3: 107
4: 121
5: 125
6: 181
7: 69
8: 118
9: 73

PARTICIPANTS PER IBS

1. 8
2. 8
3. 12
4. 16
5. 24
6. 40
7. 28
8. 28
9. 20

Dang. IBS XI must have been a swinging tournament.

There was no IBS XI. I think you mean VI.

[Frenline Delpha]

Dang. IBS XI must have been a swinging tournament.

There was no IBS XI. I think you mean VI.

Roman numeral fail.

[Kaboomlandia]

There was no IBS XI. I think you mean VI.

Roman numeral fail.

*shrugs* We've all been there a few times.

[Frenline Delpha]

Obviously, I am going to bring this up with Shiltzberg, but do you think giving a high RP bonus would give people an incentive to post RPs?

[Gregoryisgodistan]

Obviously, I am going to bring this up with Shiltzberg, but do you think giving a high RP bonus would give people an incentive to post RPs?

It could... It could also have the reverse effect if things get too random and people get discouraged. I find a good rule of thumb for minor tournaments like this is that a first time participant with no rank should be able to surpass the top team in the ranks sometime around the quarterfinals if the former consistently produces good RP's and the latter produces nothing. Of course, by producing great, superb RP's they could surpass the top team sooner if the #1 team doesn't RP at all. The exact bonus would depend on the length of the group stage and the format for the knockout stage, and I'd be willing to help you determine that if you guys are elected as host, as part of my mentoring role.

Looking at the current ranks, the top team (me) has a rank of 36, but after that things fall off quickly. Your rank is about 2 and Schiltzberg's is 0.5. RP Bonus would make a huge difference in that matchup. Obviously you can't decide for sure until you know the size of the tournament, but suppose 24 teams sign up and you go with 4 groups of 6, double round robin group stage, top 2 teams advance to the quarterfinals. You've got a 10-day group stage, plus best of 3 quarterfinals presumably, plus roster bonus which typically counts as an extra day, so in that case maybe an RP Bonus of 3/day max would make sense. I probably wouldn't go with any longer group stage for this tournament, at 28 I'd go with 7 groups of 4 and six days with top two in each group plus next two third-place teams going through. With the 7 groups of 4, now you've only got a six day group stage but you have a Round of 16 which is best-of-3 for a total of 9 days until the quarterfinals plus the roster bonus. In that case, I would probably up the max RP bonus per day to 4.

In short, don't make it too low but don't make it too high either.

[Frenline Delpha]

Obviously, I am going to bring this up with Shiltzberg, but do you think giving a high RP bonus would give people an incentive to post RPs?

It could... It could also have the reverse effect if things get too random and people get discouraged. I find a good rule of thumb for minor tournaments like this is that a first time participant with no rank should be able to surpass the top team in the ranks sometime around the quarterfinals if the former consistently produces good RP's and the latter produces nothing. Of course, by producing great, superb RP's they could surpass the top team sooner if the #1 team doesn't RP at all. The exact bonus would depend on the length of the group stage and the format for the knockout stage, and I'd be willing to help you determine that if you guys are elected as host, as part of my mentoring role.

Looking at the current ranks, the top team (me) has a rank of 36, but after that things fall off quickly. Your rank is about 2 and Schiltzberg's is 0.5. RP Bonus would make a huge difference in that matchup. Obviously you can't decide for sure until you know the size of the tournament, but suppose 24 teams sign up and you go with 4 groups of 6, double round robin group stage, top 2 teams advance to the quarterfinals. You've got a 10-day group stage, plus best of 3 quarterfinals presumably, plus roster bonus which typically counts as an extra day, so in that case maybe an RP Bonus of 3/day max would make sense. I probably wouldn't go with any longer group stage for this tournament, at 28 I'd go with 7 groups of 4 and six days with top two in each group plus next two third-place teams going through. With the 7 groups of 4, now you've only got a six day group stage but you have a Round of 16 which is best-of-3 for a total of 9 days until the quarterfinals plus the roster bonus. In that case, I would probably up the max RP bonus per day to 4.

In short, don't make it too low but don't make it too high either.

Here is your framing device for our bid. I will send you a link via TG.

[United States of Devonta]

Obviously, I am going to bring this up with Shiltzberg, but do you think giving a high RP bonus would give people an incentive to post RPs?

I would Rp more if I actually played, watched, and liked the sport. I only know the basics of the game so I don't Rp. I can Rp soccer really easily.

[Frenline Delpha]

Obviously, I am going to bring this up with Shiltzberg, but do you think giving a high RP bonus would give people an incentive to post RPs?

I would Rp more if I actually played, watched, and liked the sport. I only know the basics of the game so I don't Rp. I can Rp soccer really easily.

I could see how that would be a problem. Well, how about you try to write stories about your characters. Whether its heartfelt, tragic, or funny, writing about your players is still a good RP, if done well.

[Gregoryisgodistan]

I would Rp more if I actually played, watched, and liked the sport. I only know the basics of the game so I don't Rp. I can Rp soccer really easily.

I could see how that would be a problem. Well, how about you try to write stories about your characters. Whether its heartfelt, tragic, or funny, writing about your players is still a good RP, if done well.

During the last World Cup cycle, I believe a grand total of one of my RP's was about soccer. And even that was a parody of something that happened at a baseball game I was at the night before that I was still mad/amused at. The rest were about the Great War of Esportiva. I RPed every day and qualified for the World Cup proper for the first time ever. Not all your RPs need to be about the sport itself, or even the players.

[Frenline Delpha]

I could see how that would be a problem. Well, how about you try to write stories about your characters. Whether its heartfelt, tragic, or funny, writing about your players is still a good RP, if done well.

During the last World Cup cycle, I believe a grand total of one of my RP's was about soccer. And even that was a parody of something that happened at a baseball game I was at the night before that I was still mad/amused at. The rest were about the Great War of Esportiva. I RPed every day and qualified for the World Cup proper for the first time ever. Not all your RPs need to be about the sport itself, or even the players.

Don't forget Abanhfleft's Pay Day-esque RP. That was great. Although, I forget which tournament that was.

[Abanhfleft]

During the last World Cup cycle, I believe a grand total of one of my RP's was about soccer. And even that was a parody of something that happened at a baseball game I was at the night before that I was still mad/amused at. The rest were about the Great War of Esportiva. I RPed every day and qualified for the World Cup proper for the first time ever. Not all your RPs need to be about the sport itself, or even the players.

Don't forget Abanhfleft's Pay Day-esque RP. That was great. Although, I forget which tournament that was.

I started Payday in WBC 31, carried it over to my first World Cup (70 IIRC) when I lost steam with my match reports and wanted something new, then concluded it in NSCF 11 and 12.

[Frenline Delpha]

Don't forget Abanhfleft's Pay Day-esque RP. That was great. Although, I forget which tournament that was.

I started Payday in WBC 31, carried it over to my first World Cup (70 IIRC) when I lost steam with my match reports and wanted something new, then concluded it in NSCF 11 and 12.

NSCF is where I remeber it from. Although, your basbeall RPs are fantastic.

[Gregoryisgodistan]

One thing I will do to encourage RPing is ban people from signing up puppets just for the heck of it then only RPing with their main. Initially, sign ups will be limited to one per user, though after host voting concludes, I may open it up to numbers puppets at the request of the host(s). If I were them, though, I'd make every effort to get a workable number of signups wirhout rejecting anyone or adding puppets because puppetfests kill RPing in my Experience.

[Gregoryisgodistan]

Signups for IBS X is open.

[South Yerfilag]

Have no fear! South Yerfilag is here! I'll help save the IBS!

[Frenline Delpha]

Have no fear! South Yerfilag is here! I'll help save the IBS!

I hope everyone wants to save this tournament. I would hate to lose it. It was my first ever sports tournament.

[Frenline Delpha]

Greg, would you allow me to try my hand at ranks?

[Gregoryisgodistan]

Greg, would you allow me to try my hand at ranks?

The way I set up the Google Spreadsheet was to make it easier for me to do, but unfortunately unless you're quite familiar with spreadsheet code, it would be somewhat confusing and you'd probably have to do the last three tournaments from scratch. If you're familiar with VLOOKUP commands and stuff like that, I'll give you what you need, but if you have no clue what I'm talking about, it's probably best to let me do it.